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Old 12-17-2012, 05:25 PM   #162
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They were just once far more reliable and you could be sure of getting pretty much the same level of performance and result each time you used them. That probably wasn't true of the PC running Windows.

BUT, the Windows operating system has grown a lot, as have machine specs, so you can get great and equal results these days in Windows.

Cost wise? This isn't true anymore (unless your comparing super machines), the MAC is exceptionally affordable if you go for something like a MAC mini which starts at around £300 for a specification that easily meets the recording I do. And doesn't make a sound, which I'm grateful for.

At work, two of our developers bought MAC minis and installed Windows 7 on them because the specification was better that an equally spec'd PC.
Where can you get a new Mac Mini for £300? The cheapest new one (inc VAT) I can find is £468.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:48 AM   #163
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I moved from pc to mac about a year ago. I had a hp laptop (broke down btw. and my brother's hp laptop had overheating issue caused by idiotic fan design. HP never again.) before and reasons why i chose mac were:

1. i really prefer osx user interface to win7.
2. osx is unix so i have a real command terminal to use and the same tools that i use on my studies with linux-machines work on my laptop as well.
3. with pc i always had problems with poor quality power supply (poor SMPS on my hp caused a lot of noise on live situations) and i really didn't want to use a lot of time finding a pc with a decent pover supply. Never had those problems with my mac.
4. on my pc i always had to switch off wireless network because it caused pops and glitches with asio drivers (it was usual practice to suggest this as a solution to sound problems). Never had those problems with my mac.
5. after fighting for a millionth time with windows registry issues i swore i would never again use a microsoft product.

Windows works great on a dedicated daw machine. So if you are building a studio machine go with pc. If you however want to use your computer for everything else too mac has (or at least had 2 years ago) a lot less problems.

During the last 10 years windows has become a lot better. With xp and vista dll hell was still very common (especially with printers and some games making their own updates on system libraries). Win7 has suffered much less from dll issues. However with mac i've never suffered from any dependency issues (although i've heard there has been some in the past).

I actually have a win7 dualboot on this mbp. I need it because i have to use sonar in one project every spring. Otherwise i use it for gaming. Only one major registry issue so far.

Edit: I've very little experience with win8. Tested it in store but at least that unit had some weird problems with touch gestures not working properly. With mouse the metro ui was absolutely hideous to use. The graphics are over simplified to the level where they look god but are extremely uninformative (you cannot for exemple always tell which parts are buttons). And most of the applications would anyways throw you back to traditional desktop. I don't know how stable it is but the ui needs a lot of tweaking.

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Old 01-04-2013, 04:04 AM   #164
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Because of sad stories like this…. http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=115056

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Old 01-04-2013, 05:14 AM   #165
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Having used both I have to say the draw for OSX for me would be going back to use logic. But I'm really enjoying reaper so no....

While Apple charge £983475297230834 for their old, outdated powermacs that my gran would sniff at, I won't move to mac.

If they seriously update their powermacs and do it quick then they might be in with a chance.

Even then I can build a machine myself with twice the power at half the price and as long as you do your research with components it will be fine.

When the day comes that apple go, "fair enough, we can't charge a quadrillion quid for old kit" things might change.
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Apple makes simple, durable machines that just work. The OS is very user friendly, and so is the hardware itself. Overpriced, most definitely, but they do keep their value well and will last a very long time. IMO for a laptop macs are the way to go, but when it comes to a desktop PCs undoubtedly take the cake.
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how does someone who begins end up starting?

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Because of sad stories like this…. http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=115056

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Old 01-17-2013, 04:26 PM   #169
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Good to see my pain can be used as a reference to others
It's said that "pain has no memory", but I would add, except in dealing with computers..

But happily I don't include my MacBook in the above, which has never let me down, has survived a 5 foot drop, and after over 4 years of use, is costing me pennies a day in ownership, which sounds like great value for money to me.

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I'm curious to see your viewpoints and opinions on this...
I was a long time Linux user, then in 2009 I bought an iMac for the following reasons:
- It is (or at least it was) the only REALLY SILENT computer. No other brand has ever paid attention to noise like Apple did. Not even very high end pc manufacturers; the only option is to buy specific audio configurations, that cost more than Macs just because they are silent and audio-optimized (but Macs already are... or were). The difference is absolutely noticeable on desktops, almost embarassing on laptops.
- CoreAudio is simply the best sound server on the planet. Only on OSX you can play using Guitar Rig with no audible latency over a backing track that's playing from Youtube. No other sound server lets you do that: when you fire up ASIO/Jack, only one app at a time controls the sound card. It may sound less important, but a sum of many little things like this makes the Mac easy to use, Windows cumbersome, and Linux something in between.
- I could have all the commercial audio plugins without giving up Unix. Bash is still there, I had /dev and /etc and all the tidy Unix environment I fell in love with. And I didn't have to do some strange Wine trickery to get a VST working.

Then, Lion and Mountain lion came up, and the iMac became that sort of digital photoframe with poor ventilation that it is today... I switched to an Asus laptop with Windows 8, and in the next future I'll build an Ivy Bridge-based fanless custom build.
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Do let us know how that turns out, and post in the Tips and Tricks forum mate.

We all love to hear about clever PC builds.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:59 AM   #172
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serr, many times that can be explained by the fact that a large number of beginners will end up starting on windows
Not me, I was so retarded back then, that I started with a Commodore VIC 20
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:15 AM   #173
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It’s all changing fast,

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/educatio...r-a-pc-company
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:18 AM   #174
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I was an apple guy when I had my G4, which was I think for the time the best computer available, period.

When apple dropped their PPC customers like a hot potato, I struggled on with OS9 for a while. Tried to make OSX work for a time with ever increasing need for hacks and workarounds. In the end decided to return the favor and drop apple like a hot potato and now make my own PCs (I've even built a couple of hackintoshes for other people just out of spite )

I won't do anymore business with them and will never buy another one of their increasingly dumbed down, non backward compatible products. They have an alarming propensity to just abandon their existing, loyal customer base for something new and shiny!

I also feel like the whole "Think Different" era ended a long while ago. They're a mega corporation only interested in making as much money as possible these days. So I might as well give less of my money to other mega corporations only interested in making money, to get essentially the same or a better product

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Old 05-21-2013, 02:23 AM   #175
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I just taking a glance through this thread and a lot of people seem to think that Apple use Linux. Let's be clear here, Apple do not and have never used Linux, they cannot use it, as to use freely open software that you can use to do whatever you wish with your computer goes against Apple's ethos of One store to rule them all, Apple would never be able to comply with the requirements set out by the GPL agreements, and they certainly do not contribute anything new to the Linux code base, which is much better than OS X by a long stretch. I'm aware that Apple sometimes uses GPL'd software and tries to pass it off their own, <cough>Konquorer</cough> without placing their changes back upstream until they are forced to do it. For this reason a lot of Apple's users are actively partaking in patent violation. Linux users are not, and how do we know? We can see the code for the linux kernel in all its entirety, you do not have this luxury with OS X, yet OS X seems to have everything that many of the distro's have 3 months after its main release. Remember this term .Wayland. You heard it here first. Who will be the first to implement it after linux users have it and use it. Will it be Microsoft, or will it be Apple? I think we all know the answer to that.
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Nice soapbox rant.

For the record: OS X is based on BSD, not Linux. FreeBSD is like Linux, with quality control. (OK, that's just a smart-ass remark, but with some truth in it.) Apple has, in fact, contributed a lot of development of open source components; and they are not violating any licenses by using FreeBSD code.

Show me a Linux distro that you can set up a decent DAW on without a she-tonne of tweaking and then we'll talk. And for the record: yes, I have used Linux; compiled kernels & source, configured X by hand, etc...and I'm very glad that Apple has taken care of all that for me, so I can get on with recording.
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cheers friendly folks, this is my first post. switched from long time dos/win to linux several years ago but have an mac to do music and text crossplatform apps. Mac is mostly cool but also not bugfree and has only creative spirit if your just a user. Curiously what brought my attention to reaper was its Perl support. As being an hardcore perl dev I appreciate that very much and hope its still in place. That doesn't mean that i will throw my stonemountain away, but I see here some features which I plan to use. Best to you all

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Well, I used Windows until about 2004. Then I got a PPC tower. The biggest reason I got it? Someone gave it to me. I loved it. Everything made more sense to me. Now I have an iMac. Probably my last one, and I'm getting all the use out of it I can before it breaks. You can't even upgrade memory anymore in the new iMacs......so what is the point? I'm angry. I certainly can't afford a Mac Pro. If I was suddenly rich I would get a Mac Pro, but that's not happening.
So I guess it's back to Windows. Windows 10 is a system I actually can get along with, I guess. I will definitely use it as a machine for music and videos only. And stay off the internet. I just hate the idea of switching back though.
Frakk you Apple. You have turned into a greedy company that has ruined a lot of things in these past few years. Thanks a lot.
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Old 05-18-2019, 11:01 PM   #179
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Heh. This thread was started in 2012 when what turned out to be the last Jobs era Macs were released.

Today, someone might ask "Why is Mac still so popular when they basically stopped being Apple-like after 2012?"

OSX is still a better experience than Windows but the post-Jobs hardware really isn't very Apple-like anymore. While their flagship machines from 2011 & 2012 are still relevant and high bang for the buck purchases. And will almost certainly outlast any of the models released later!

But Linux is Unix based...
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funny, when apple was not greedy company? their products were always very expensive.
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Old 05-19-2019, 06:02 AM   #181
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funny, when apple was not greedy company? their products were always very expensive.
I can remember one of the worst Macs ever. The Powerbook 5300...

Even the plastic was crappy. But way back then, Apple recognised the problem. So we were still repairing these 10 years after production had ceased, for free.

Today, Apple won't even notice, unless it gets in the papers. And even then they will do what they can to make it hard to get a free repair.

It started before 2012, tho. And has gotten worse ever since. Remember the GPU's on the 2006-2007 Macbook Pro's?

Is it because they are evil? No, it's because consumers allow it. Whenever there is action against it, Apple loses the case. But they have long ago calculated that losing a case every now and then is far cheaper than doing the right thing.
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It's a dangerous time to get involved in Appleyland since it looks like they are going with ARM in the very near future, breaking all existing software and raising other serious questions...
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“Computationally I can see a Core i3 or low-end Core i5,” says Patrick Moorhead, founder of Moor Insights & Strategy, comparing ARM’s abilities to entry-level Intel chips. “I can't imagine that by 2020 they’d have a processor anywhere near the capabilities of a Xeon or a Core i7.”
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/appl...kalamata-intel

My personal predictions remain that:

a) They are going to do it, to make a couple of hundred bucks extra profit per unit.
b) They will go many-core for marketing reasons, perhaps with one or two high clocked cores, also for marketing reasons.
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funny, when apple was not greedy company? their products were always very expensive.
An expensive product doesn’t make the manufacturer greedy. Besides, the pricing is constructed very differently. Add the price of a few Windows Home Professionals to any PC and suddenly most Macs aren’t very expensive. Then add the time and money required for PC TI support and maintenance and suddenly Macs are cheap. And the longer lifetime. Nobody would consider doing pro audio and semi-professional video editing on a 6-year old PC, which the MBP handles fine.

A PC was manageable when I was enthusiastic enough to learn all the optimizations and all the tricks that were required for it to even be able to do professional audio. But once I had to cut down the time used for tweaking, a Windows PC was simply not a possibility.

Unfortunately the present and the future are indeed a bit gloomy for Apples as well. Even I have no idea what my next computer will be, eventually.
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i don't see, what mac can bring me, what pc can't.
And for the same money i can buy much more powerful hardware, so for me personally there's no options at all.

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i can argue about this too, but won't.
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funny, when apple was not greedy company? their products were always very expensive.
What does greed have to do with it? There isn't a correlation between a product being expensive (or even overpriced) and greed of a company.
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What does greed have to do with it? There isn't a correlation between a product being expensive (or even overpriced) and greed of a company.
don't understand, what are you trying to say, isn't selling things, which do not cost their money (overpriced product) indicates greediness of a company?
I don't say, that mac is bad, no, it's great and reliable product, just too expensive, for what it gives.
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don't understand, what are you trying to say, isn't selling things, which do not cost their money (overpriced product) indicates greediness of a company?
I don't say, that mac is bad, no, it's great and reliable product, just too expensive, for what it gives.
They price their products for what the market will bear, taking into account the upscale market they envision their hardware to be in. The expense of a product doesn't define the greed of the company.
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isn't selling things, which do not cost their money (overpriced product) indicates greediness of a company?
You have a peculiar view on how companies work. Or capitalism for that matter, on which our whole society is based on.

Every single instance that takes any part in buying or selling anything, does so either for direct profits or for a chance in future profits. I have no problem calling the whole system greedy, but to single out one succesful company as greedy makes no sense.

Since you clearly haven’t yet done so, I suggest you give a few thoughts to the following questions:
- Why would the head of Apple sales department set/let the products to be overpriced?
- Why would anyone buy their products if they were overpriced?
- How is it possible for a company to become so succesful by selling overpriced products?
- Is it possible that there is something in the equation that you don’t perhaps quite understand?
- A person can be greedy. Can a 100000 employee company be greedy?
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- A person can be greedy. Can a 100000 employee company be greedy?
Not 100000 employees rule the company, but very few, so yes, companies can be greedy, all big corporations are guided only by money, but atleast most of them make reasonable prices. With companies, like apple, it's not the case.

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- Why would anyone buy their products if they were overpriced?
- How is it possible for a company to become so succesful by selling overpriced products?
- Is it possible that there is something in the equation that you don’t perhaps quite understand?
I'm simple man, i see 1 computer, which does 1 thing and have 1 price
and i see other computer, which has the same specs, which can do the same thing,
but costs less - for me, who counts every single penny, answer is obvious.
And i don't care, how they position their products, their brand and all their marketing bullshit,
to me matters only ratio : (hardware+software possibilities) divided by money amount.

But clearly there are millions of people who don't count their money or don't mind to pay more
for brand and some fancy little things they like,
if you have free money to spend on this, then why not,
Apple made pretty good job at that
I used mac at my job for few months and didn't understand, what's so magical about it,
what i can do on mac computer, what i can't do on desktop PC, that i really should to pay for it.
If something gets broken or i simply want to replace/upgrade,
it's much harder to do/get spare parts and they cost more too, atleast in my country.
I don't even talk about, that windows for me is more convenient to use, it is quiet a subjective thing.
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I'm not really sure that anything productive can come out of resurrecting such an old thread especially since every argument voiced here has been done and dusted many times over however, since I have a few idle moments while I wait for my takeaway to arrive, I'll pitch in with these comments for what they are worth.

First, people who have never used an Apple computer seriously (e.g. MacBook, iMac, etc.) will never understand what we are talking about. It's like trying to explain green to someone who can't see.

Second, I have been using Windows since when it was basically a MS-DOS add-on (yes, that long) and while I have to maintain some Windows and SQL servers for professional reasons I was at last able to switch completely to iMac's and MacBook Pro for personal use a couple of years ago. Since then, I have never looked back. The sheer amount of time I have saved not fighting Windows issues and foibles and failed updates alone pays for the price differential and the superior design and build quality is a bonus. I had to install Windows 10 for a relative recently and it was a nightmare, you will not believe how much 'phoning home' that horrible OS does even after installation.

Third - when I wanted to upgrade to a late model MacBook Pro I did price compare some Dell, Alienware and HP products. Guess what? If you spec them up and really compare like for like the price differential is not as much as some in this topic would have you believe. Compare a MacBook to a cheap and cheerful entry-level clearance model and guess what you will get?

Last - computers are tools, in the most. Buy cheap tools and you know what you will get when you use them. For my money, stop whining about greedy companies, there are many other companies out there who are really greedy, there is a reason Apples command a premium and that does not make them greedy, there is nothing wrong with being commercially astute. We need them to survive to provide choice.

So, just because you got bit by a Mac 10 years ago or don't like that you can't buy a Mac for $250 that is no reason to fan the flames of this sorry flamefest!
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I went the middle way and built a Hackintosh.
Watercooled i8700K overclocked to 5gHz, 64GB Ram and 2 NVMe drives for about $1700 total.

Geekbench is around 31‘000 total and 6‘200 single core.
I don‘t even want to know how much a similar spec‘d machine would cost from apple.
Setting up was a breeze and I‘m not that much of a geek.

I switched to mac/OSX around 2010 and never looked back.
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I went the middle way and built a Hackintosh.
Watercooled i8700K overclocked to 5gHz, 64GB Ram and 2 NVMe drives for about $1700 total.

Geekbench is around 31‘000 total and 6‘200 single core.
I don‘t even want to know how much a similar spec‘d machine would cost from apple.
Setting up was a breeze and I‘m not that much of a geek.

I switched to mac/OSX around 2010 and never looked back.
Hackintosh is pretty rough solution, hardware should match to mac's systems very closely,
because you can have some problems with drivers and other stuff, even if it looks like it works ok, but under the hood it may not.
IMO, if you really want to have UNIX-like system, then it's better to install some popular linux distro.
Just curious, what's you videocard and does it work well under load?
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I'm simple man, i see 1 computer, which does 1 thing and have 1 price
and i see other computer, which has the same specs, which can do the same thing,
but costs less - for me, who counts every single penny, answer is obvious.
And i don't care, how they position their products, their brand and all their marketing bullshit,
to me matters only ratio : (hardware+software possibilities) divided by money amount.
Then you buy the computer which costs less that you feel is a better purchase. And that's really the end of the story.
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Old 05-27-2019, 08:25 AM   #194
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I'm sure this has been mentioned, but when the designer and builder of the operating system also designs and builds the hardware, there's a pretty good chance they will work together seamlessly.

Macs aren't perfect, and they're more expensive, but after a couple decades using Windows PCs, I don't for a moment regret the switch to Mac a few years back. I've also noticed that these expensive Macs last a LOT longer than cheap PCs. In my experience, at least.

And core audio just works. Out of the box. Never a single problem. Ever.
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Old 06-04-2019, 03:11 PM   #195
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I'm sure this has been mentioned, but when the designer and builder of the operating system also designs and builds the hardware, there's a pretty good chance they will work together seamlessly.

Macs aren't perfect, and they're more expensive, but after a couple decades using Windows PCs, I don't for a moment regret the switch to Mac a few years back. I've also noticed that these expensive Macs last a LOT longer than cheap PCs. In my experience, at least.

And core audio just works. Out of the box. Never a single problem. Ever.
Pretty much the same price for the same specs, PCs vs Macs.
Of course cheap PCs don't last as long a expensive Macs.
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Old 06-05-2019, 03:08 AM   #196
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I understand people buying mac, for whom OSX is more convenient, than Windows OS or just needs better stability in big systems,
other cases for me are unclear, i will upgrade my desktop pc next year, because mine is already 6 years old,
i use it only for audioproduction/internet and very rarely gaming. So maybe Apple has something better to offer?

i want to take something like this:

Processor: Intel i7-9700K 12117UAH
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix Z390-F Gaming 5999UAH
RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4-2666 32GB(2x16gb) (HX426C16FBK2/32) 5390UAH
Graphicscard: MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8Gb OC 6877UAH
SSD: Samsung MLC NVMe M.2 2280 250GB (MZ-V7S250BW) 2899UAH (such ssd have good endurance and very high speed)
HDD: WD blue 1TB (WD10EZEX) 7200rpm 64Mb 1862UAH (2 HDD (1Tb+1Tb) = 3724UAH)
Power supply: Aerocool KCAS-700 Plus 700W 1399UAH ( with active PFC and efficiency factor > 80%)
Case: GameMax MT507-NP 494UAH (cheap case, but looks ok, has thick metal, enough of space for graphics card and place for cable management, what else do i need? )
Mouse: A4-tech X-738K black 447UAH (great matte mouse with soft touch plastic buttons and high dpi settings)
Keyboard: Motospeed CK95 849UAH (with mechanical buttons, don't know about quality, just want to try it)
Monitor: Samsung PLS 21.5" 1920x1080 (LS22E390HSO/CI) 3589UAH
(4k is usefull for 24" monitors or higher, or for people who does some designing work, i don't need that,
1920x1080 is more than enough for 21.5", also 4k adds more stress to your graphicscard in games / intensive apps,
because it needs to proces 4x more pixels, so to me personally benefit of 4k is much lower, than drawback)

(1 USD = 27.20 UAH)
Total: 43784 UAH = 1610 USD

You may say, that i buy some noname shit, like Intel or AMD or Asus, you know, cheap shit, which won't last long ,
so i wonder, who is the manufacturer of parts (processor, graphics card) inside your imac?
What Apple has to offer similar to this? Maybe i don't understand something, i would like to look.

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so i wonder, who is the manufacturer of parts (processor, graphics card) inside your imac?
processor is Intel, surprise.
in recent non-pro Retina iMacs Radeon Pro 555X/560X is used, as noted on Apple's website.
Apple internal SSDs are really good, no clue who makes them.

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What Apple has to offer similar to this? Maybe i don't understand something, i would like to look.
uhm, going modular with Apple is hard. by modular I mean having a case that you can use to store 2 HDDs and one SSD. this is not typical for modern macs (in older that costed more money). Apple folks will tell you to go with external drives in this case.

if you actually can go with external HDD drives, current non-pro iMacs go up to i9-9900K. if not, you're probably out of current Apple territory.

P.S. non-Retina is dead on Macs since 10.14.
if you're sure that you want a non-Retina Mac, forget about Macs (although, they do still sell some, but avoid them).
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:33 AM   #198
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Some folks say, that i don't understand the equation, so i'm trying , ah, i guess mac is just not for me, so i buy cheap pc and this is really the end of the story

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Some folks say, that i don't understand the equation, so i'm trying , ah, i guess mac is just not for me, this is really end of the story
that's totally fair, everyone has his biases and likings. and the grass is always greener on the other side.

as a guy running only Macs for a while and wanting to upgrade -- well, I would like to consider some PC alternatives. but I have very limited choice, as I got stuck with Thunderbolt audio interfaces, so I'll probably buy another Mac.

OS X has been a heaven for audio production once, but it's got more and more problems nowadays. new bloated operating systems, broken AU subsystem for last two years, weird hardware solutions (like USB-C is all you need and you need a touchbar).

I'm with Macs since Macintosh Classic, with Windows since 3.1, with Linux since kernel 2.0. if someone asks me: what's the perfect OS for audio production now, I'll answer "they all suck and I hope that someday something better will arise". until that happens, well, we all can use the things we like the most. I know that even in 2019 some guys prefer to use a hardware multi-track recorder, how do you like it, Elon Musk?

I'd say that now it isn't a proper time to switch to Mac. if you're already stuck with it -- go on and hope they evolve in right direction, not just filming ads about 'musicians use Mac' (they used to, but it's been more frustrating lately). if not -- just get a new PC, many modern software thinks of Windows as first-class citizen and Mac as a second, like abovementioned Retina displays. Cubase started to support them in v10, Reaper probably will as for v6, but it's been a long path since 2012 when those displays were introduced.
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as a guy running only Macs for a while and wanting to upgrade -- well, I would like to consider some PC alternatives. but I have very limited choice, as I got stuck with Thunderbolt audio interfaces, so I'll probably buy another Mac.
Why you would have to buy another Mac because of the thunderbolt interface when you can use Thunderbolt PCI card with your PC? That's what I did after switch from Mac to PC (Asus Thunderbolt EX3 PCI card + UAD Apollo Twin MKII).
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