Old 10-26-2021, 08:52 AM   #1
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Hello, I would be grateful if someone could help to me understand WALTER margins. I'm sorry, but the documentation isn't helping me and I'm confused by what it says. I sort of need arrows pointing to each number in order to get it, as in other tutorials. Then I can make myself a bunch of cheat sheets.

So, for example:
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set mcp.trackidx.margin [50 4 10 4 0.5]
From left to right, what does each number do?

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Old 10-26-2021, 08:57 AM   #2
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Also, I found a margin that looks like this. It has more numbers than the previous one. So I'm very confused as to why they are different.

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set mcp.sendlist.margin [0 0 15 0 0.5 0 0 0]
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Old 10-26-2021, 02:33 PM   #3
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In margin settings the values are:

[ 1 2 3 4 5 6 (7 8) ]

1 YELLOW/ left padding
2 GREEN/ top padding
3 BLUE/ right padding
4 PURPLE/ bottom padding

Its always LTRB just stamp those letters
in your memory for theming.

5 ORANGE/ L-R align, 0-Lft, 0.5-Ctr 1-Rt

6 RED T-B align, 0-Top, 0.5-Ctr, 1-Bot
(Top-Bot align doesn't work all the time-
especially for fx stuff.)


7 CYAN/ 'Insert fx' align - remember we are
dealing with a fxparm margin here..
its normally home to fx params..the
insert is a visitor, 7 is the L-R alignment
JUST for inserts text here.

8 GRAY/ Column padding - the space between columns of boxes.

7&8 values only exist for tcp fx stuff, it works on fxparm.margin; I have not seen any function on
sendlist margin...though it is listed as a function, afaik...I cannot remember where I found this stuff documented
or I would have linked. Just remember all things do not function all the time. Also on the fxparms...the left padding
is from the 'knob' whether it exists or not. On the sendlist, the right padding is from the knob, whether it exists
or not; so here, the L-R pad values can seem exaggerated if you forget that. Also do not forget, the sendlist settings
only work for seperate sendlist sends, not sends visiting in the fxparm area.

There is also an 'fxlist' & 'fxlist.margin' addition as well, but its useless, and so let's not talk about that now.

I was bored so I made the diagram. Also sorry I have a hard time explaining things briefly or half way.
Maybe someone can explain about values 7&8 for the sendlist.

The only way to find this stuff out is to watch the changelog / new release thread, or wait until it is added to the SDK.
The FR board is the best way to go to stay on top of stuff as it happens and in advance.
Hope it helps.

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Thanks for the graphic and the clarification! I also had my difficulties with the tcp.fxparm.margin, mcp.fxlist.margin and other margins. Among other things, the top and bottom padding (2,4) do not work for me.
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Thanks for the graphic and the clarification! I also had my difficulties with the tcp.fxparm.margin, mcp.fxlist.margin and other margins. Among other things, the top and bottom padding (2,4) do not work for me.
Right..top n bot padding do not work on any fx slot, I just added them to be thorough. 'tcp.fxlist' is actually not of huge value,
better to use the old
'tcp.fxparm' area, and have
capability to toggle
inserts, params, sends, UI
on and off, and have the
slider to resize the shared
space between fx and
embedded UI.

.fxparm + .sendlist =

An opinion.
Glad to help.
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In margin settings the values are:

[ 1 2 3 4 5 6 (7 8) ]

1 YELLOW/ left padding
2 GREEN/ top padding
3 BLUE/ right padding
4 PURPLE/ bottom padding

Its always LTRB just stamp those letters
in your memory for theming.

5 ORANGE/ L-R align, 0-Lft, 0.5-Ctr 1-Rt

6 RED T-B align, 0-Top, 0.5-Ctr, 1-Bot
(Top-Bot align doesn't work all the time-
especially for fx stuff.)


7 CYAN/ 'Insert fx' align - remember we are
dealing with a fxparm margin here..
its normally home to fx params..the
insert is a visitor, 7 is the L-R alignment
JUST for inserts text here.

8 GRAY/ Column padding - the space between columns of boxes.

7&8 values only exist for tcp fx stuff, it works on fxparm.margin; I have not seen any function on
sendlist margin...though it is listed as a function, afaik...I cannot remember where I found this stuff documented
or I would have linked. Just remember all things do not function all the time. Also on the fxparms...the left padding
is from the 'knob' whether it exists or not. On the sendlist, the right padding is from the knob, whether it exists
or not; so here, the L-R pad values can seem exaggerated if you forget that. Also do not forget, the sendlist settings
only work for seperate sendlist sends, not sends visiting in the fxparm area.

There is also an 'fxlist' & 'fxlist.margin' addition as well, but its useless, and so let's not talk about that now.

I was bored so I made the diagram. Also sorry I have a hard time explaining things briefly or half way.
Maybe someone can explain about values 7&8 for the sendlist.

The only way to find this stuff out is to watch the changelog / new release thread, or wait until it is added to the SDK.
The FR board is the best way to go to stay on top of stuff as it happens and in advance.
Hope it helps.
Helped me a lot, thanks
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Should make it one of the stickies. Much easier to understand...
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