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10-11-2018, 08:40 AM
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#201
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Originally Posted by Sexan
@Miui very nice feedback!
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Happy to have been useful. I might give you more of those feedback going ahead. Hopefully you wonàt need them!
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10-11-2018, 09:12 AM
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#202
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BTW regarding View TS in your video, to actually "comp" or to use that part of TS into current version you need to click "TO - CURRENT".
Thats the way other DAW does it also and (at least for me) it makes sense. If it would automatically merge as soon you are in VIEW TS mode then there would be a lot of errors since you scroll to see versions and they auto merge with current one.
Clicking "To-current" you confirm you want that part merged to current version
Deactivating VIEW TS without merging anything restores the current version default state, which in your case in the video, current version had a gap in default state so it was restored that way. If you clicked "TO" it would merge with it
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10-11-2018, 09:35 AM
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#203
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexan
BTW regarding View TS in your video, to actually "comp" or to use that part of TS into current version you need to click "TO - CURRENT".
Thats the way other DAW does it also and (at least for me) it makes sense. If it would automatically merge as soon you are in VIEW TS mode then there would be a lot of errors since you scroll to see versions and they auto merge with current one.
Clicking "To-current" you confirm you want that part merged to current version
Deactivating VIEW TS without merging anything restores the current version default state, which in your case in the video, current version had a gap in default state so it was restored that way. If you clicked "TO" it would merge with it
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Got it!
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10-11-2018, 11:33 AM
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#204
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Ok guys what do you prefer :
1. one is old behavior, you click select version and then manipulate it
2. is mouse over, you just manipulate it
Now when creating comps the focus goes on it (for previewing), but in mode no.2 you can just mouse over stuff you want to preview. So this will need some tweaking because in mode no.2 there is no sense to set focus on comp because you can preview it easily.Mode no.1 would need it,so you can preview the comp immediately
Even if this mouse over voodoo is cool I'm not so sure of it (I like mode 1 best, its consistent), mouseover you can be DJ like never before,change shit around in nanoseconds
Because of the absence of great and majestic (always in our hears and minds ) Area selection, this cant be made studio one style... but it can be ... lets say...close
Last edited by Sexan; 10-11-2018 at 11:46 AM.
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10-11-2018, 11:58 AM
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#205
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Mode 1 by far for me!!
In mode 2: let's say you have 10 takes and you want to preview number 1 and then number 10. You must avoid passing the mouse over 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 because they will get previewed. I do not see the advantage of this mode. Just to avoid one click?
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10-11-2018, 12:02 PM
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#206
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Yeah thats why I sayed 1 is more consistent
Just testing,it will be as it was. Only change is it will focus on comp when created,so you can preview it without clicking on it
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10-11-2018, 12:06 PM
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#207
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Yeah, this is nice
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10-11-2018, 12:18 PM
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#208
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I prefer Mode 1, but making it optional would be even better.
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10-11-2018, 08:30 PM
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#209
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I always got something difficulties in watching those superfast Gif. Is mode 2 like the one I show you in Studio 1?
If so, of course, you already know that for me is, incomparably, version2. And I invite anybody to try comping in S1...I have the suspect you would change your mind.
P.S. Looking better at the gif I got it better. For monitoring purpose solution 1 is fine. Although, it would be cool if when dragging on selected or unselected track it becomes active with no further click needed to be promoted on comp track.
P.S. 1 click in a comping session becomes 500 click in half an hour. The least the better.
Last edited by Miul; 10-11-2018 at 09:13 PM.
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10-11-2018, 08:49 PM
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#210
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My vote is for number 1!
I found another bug when adding MIDI notes:
https://imgur.com/a/BNo2spa
And I'm still having the issue with adding items from left click modifier linked to Copy item to cursor. There are undo points being created btw (2 of them actually)
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10-11-2018, 11:57 PM
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#211
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@Arthur I'm still looking at that problem,issue is that very last undo is not insert item,but unselect all items so my script does nothing in that case.
@Miul I can make that activate version under mouse cursor when time selection is made.
just out of curiosity how do you preview lanes in S1? Click on them? solo them via button?
EDIT: @Arthur, that script would need a small modification in order to work, other functions need to be called from main function and all that functions need to be moved above main function to work. With this modifications it works fine with my script
Last edited by Sexan; 10-12-2018 at 12:33 AM.
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10-12-2018, 07:48 AM
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#212
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexan
just out of curiosity how do you preview lanes in S1? Click on them? solo them via button?
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I'm not quite sure what you are referring to.
To view all the lanes you just have a shortcuts the same way in your app you click on ALL.
But then you say solo, so probably you want to know how you can hear the whole take?
Different ways: every lane has got a solo button or, you can temporary promote the lane to main track altogether. This is done clicking on a arrow on the lane.
In this case you won't lose what you have already done as the former comp will just go down as any other lane, keeping all the comping done untouched.
You can also duplicate the comping track so that you can make little variations and compare the two of them.
Personally, unless I really want to hear the whole track I just select long sections, I hear it and than undo. But it's a bit improper as a system itself.
Hope this is what you wanted to know, otherwise, please, clarify me better what you exactly want to know and I'll be happy to answer.
Cheers
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10-12-2018, 07:51 AM
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#213
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Ok this is the MINIMAL as it can be:
It looks the version under the mouse,now does not matter if item is muted unmuted,version under the cursor will go to comp
+Comp is now auto focused when creating (for previewing)
but this one ALSO has a little clumsiness which cannot be avoided:
mouse cursor must not leave version you want... or else it will comp the last version under the cursor. So for example while you do time selection little faster and mouse ends up version up or down that one will be comped.
Speed aside my still favorite one is the most simplest one (previous one). Select version you want make selection it comps, me happy. So this behavior will be an option because its not quite "SAFE" since if your mouse can end up on version you did not want to comp...
edit: And NOW when I wrote all this down I have a idea to MAYBE fix this issue ...
Last edited by Sexan; 10-12-2018 at 07:59 AM.
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10-12-2018, 11:41 AM
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#214
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexan
Ok this is the MINIMAL as it can be:
It looks the version under the mouse,now does not matter if item is muted unmuted,version under the cursor will go to comp
+Comp is now auto focused when creating (for previewing)
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That looks quite right to me man!!!
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10-13-2018, 08:44 AM
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#215
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Since GUI is pretty limited and its getting crowded,I am porting this to beautiful Lokaseenna GUI Library so there will be no updates for few days until it gets ported
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10-13-2018, 09:21 AM
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#216
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Great! Lokasenna's GUI library is the way to go! Check his awesome builder too!
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10-13-2018, 12:35 PM
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#217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexan
Since GUI is pretty limited and its getting crowded,I am porting this to beautiful Lokaseenna GUI Library so there will be no updates for few days until it gets ported
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Hi,
I was wondering, when you select a section for the comping track are you free from snapping? When maximized, on small sections I always need to press shift otherwise it snaps, really not the best.
Is there any setting that you know to avoid this behavior?
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10-13-2018, 01:20 PM
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#218
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I hit ALT + S when I want free snap mode, or just click on the magnet icon in the tool bar (this shortcut toggles it)
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10-13-2018, 09:08 PM
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#219
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Could you tell me the action you have set for alt-s as I override it.
Getting of the snap, incredibly, doesn't do it to me.
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10-14-2018, 04:05 AM
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#220
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Thank you for this very promising looking skript!
Has anyone tested this with the Reaper Implementation of Melodyne/ARA?
Does the comping work well?
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10-14-2018, 12:38 PM
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#221
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the side effect of porting is) that you fix more bugs than normally since you need to check every function...at least this one except new sexy look will behave better I hope next few days it will be finished
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10-16-2018, 08:28 AM
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#222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexan
I think the current UI for envelopes are good
You ask and I give :
pre 0.41 up - supports envelope versions on TRACKS only (no multiselection) Volume,Pan,Width ATM - Envelopes needs to be selected in order to save them)
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Is this then something like Snapshots, track by track, we could call them 'local snapshots' rather than 'global snapshots' which would be for all tracks.
Can we create snapshots
a- for a selection of tracks?
b- for all tracks?
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10-16-2018, 08:48 AM
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#223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonE
Can we create snapshots
a- for a selection of tracks?
b- for all tracks?
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Being able to flip to a new playlist for track groups or for all tracks would be amazing. Not sure how possible that is given Reaper's current limitation of track grouping not including item grouping (still baffles me that one).
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10-16-2018, 10:37 AM
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#224
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Not sure if you seen few gifs ,but I have my internal group system that allows setting and manipulating groups (see edit groups gif somewhere on page before). You add tracks to a group and then switch EVERYTHING or manipulate EVERYTHING at once
I've done a LOT of work with porting,and fixed so many issues, only thing left to port is comping and view time selection.
Its taking more time than I thought because every function I ported I saw how awful the code was and simplify and improve it. For now 90% of the script is ported and its bellow 700lines of code while current one was about around 1800 when we we remove the gui code)
And Lokasennas GUI library is so awesome in terms what can it do. Every one should use it!
Last edited by Sexan; 10-16-2018 at 12:35 PM.
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10-16-2018, 12:09 PM
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#225
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Awesome work Sexan! Awaiting in great anticipation.
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10-16-2018, 12:12 PM
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#226
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Does that mean you will use Loka's GUI, when it's finished? Would be great!
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10-16-2018, 12:28 PM
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#227
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It is on Loky's GUI ,small sneak peek (It will still change). This is made fast just so I can port. Will make it as SEXY as possible
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10-16-2018, 12:28 PM
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#228
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SEXY!!! 😜
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10-16-2018, 12:37 PM
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#229
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Must be your middle name!! Looks great!
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10-16-2018, 03:36 PM
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#230
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Nice! Looking forward to it Sexan!
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10-16-2018, 11:28 PM
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#231
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Hey, this is really cool
Do you think this could work with track FX? I tend to create a lot of iterations of SFX sounds, and I end up with enormous amount of duplicated tracks to store the previous versions. Would be great to have one track per sound, while safely storing all the previous iterations.
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10-17-2018, 01:24 AM
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#232
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There ware some changes to memory for GetSetTrackState APIs,so maybe now it would not crash Reaper anymore. But some users with Kontakt will need to test that (its chunk more or less crashes reaper since it is huge). I will make some basic implementation for testing and if it crashes reaper again then it will not be in final script
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10-17-2018, 03:24 PM
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#233
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that special moment when code is clean,normal & tidy,and all of the sudden things start happening without you even know it... AKA extremely satisfying WTF moment
Things go to lane what is selected in FIPM mode
Last edited by Sexan; 10-17-2018 at 03:43 PM.
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10-17-2018, 07:00 PM
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#234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexan
that special moment when code is clean,normal & tidy,and all of the sudden things start happening without you even know it... AKA extremely satisfying WTF moment
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It looks good! What if while recording it overlaps an items, can it creat a new version?
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10-17-2018, 11:03 PM
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#235
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there is an option to make new version from loop recording.
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10-18-2018, 09:13 AM
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#236
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now for some little magic!
What if I told you that now script knows on which version lane you are based on your mouse?And all of the sudden THIS magic is possible
Or even this! Standard copy paste at edit cursor on version where you mouse is
Size of the track does not matter since script always updates it
very special thanks to doppelganger since its based on his code for FXlist
Last edited by Sexan; 10-18-2018 at 09:20 AM.
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10-18-2018, 09:33 AM
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#237
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Thumbs uuuuuuuup!!!!!
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10-18-2018, 10:09 AM
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#238
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Holy cow. This is amazing. I'm donating again.
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10-18-2018, 06:12 PM
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#239
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You are making it more and more impressive!
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10-20-2018, 02:59 AM
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#240
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Project codename SDSWM is almost ready,all features are in:
Copy to destination by swiping...because the only way to do it is the cool way. Default is always Main version unless changed
Last edited by Sexan; 10-20-2018 at 03:08 AM.
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