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05-11-2014, 11:13 AM
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Master fader in TCP misses leading digit (FIXED)
On the right of the TCP fader, there is numerical display recalling the value in dB of the fader gain. For the Master fader, the leading digits are not displayed. It is confusing.
See attachment.
I am using OSX.6.8 and Reaper 4.611.
Please someone using Windows can check as well ?
Nicolas
Last edited by -nicolas-; 01-08-2021 at 10:07 AM.
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05-18-2014, 05:08 AM
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Anyone with OSX or Windows can have a look ?
Thanks
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05-18-2014, 05:47 AM
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Maybe it's a "french only" bug , but I get the same here:
WIN 7 64, reaper 4.62, defaut theme.
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05-18-2014, 07:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gibi25
Maybe it's a "french only" bug
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That's what they hired JeffOS for!
But no, I get the same thing using all-English setup. It's seems to be a minor flaw in the WALTER code for the theme / track layout; it should give a bit more space to the digits, less to the fader.
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05-19-2014, 01:20 PM
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This is not only found in the master fader; the tempo envelope lane behaves exactly this way...
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05-19-2014, 02:48 PM
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Check out Reaper theme 3.0.
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05-20-2014, 01:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soli Deo Gloria
This is not only found in the master fader; the tempo envelope lane behaves exactly this way...
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I don't understand what you mean. Can you be more specific, and perhaps include a snapshot ?
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05-20-2014, 01:58 AM
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Tempo fader misses leading digits
I finally understood what Soli Deo Gloria means.
Here is a screenshot.
Nicolas
Last edited by -nicolas-; 01-08-2021 at 10:07 AM.
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05-20-2014, 07:44 AM
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Excuse me that I didn´t include an image! I wrote it in a rush yesterday... But it´s exactly what you show there, the leading digit of the tempo map in the lane can´t be seen with non integer values...
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05-20-2014, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Tod
Check out Reaper theme 3.0.
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You´re right, Tod! It doesn´t happen with it! Anyway, V4 default deserves to have these details polished; it surely isn´t diffilcult to improve...
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05-20-2014, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soli Deo Gloria
You´re right, Tod! It doesn´t happen with it! Anyway, V4 default deserves to have these details polished; it surely isn´t diffilcult to improve...
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Which seems to prove that it indeed is just a minor flaw in the WALTER code for the theme. Anyone familiar enough with using WALTER can probably fix it. At this point, unfortunately, that's not me.
Maybe post the issue in the Themes subforum. There must be some REAPER user more familiar with WALTER who would care enough to have a stab at it?
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05-20-2014, 08:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Banned
Maybe post the issue in the Themes subforum. There must be some REAPER user more familiar with WALTER who would care enough to have a stab at it?
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Good idea, Banned! If the OP does not do it, I will, certainly...
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05-20-2014, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Banned
Maybe post the issue in the Themes subforum. There must be some REAPER user more familiar with WALTER who would care enough to have a stab at it?
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Good idea. I would try this myself but I can't see the problem here with the Master track volume display. Not with the Default theme, not with few of the custom ones I tried...all numbers show fully. However, with values starting with 11 (both negative and positive side), there is a minus sign in front of the numbers. Otherwise the there is no minus nor plus on either side, unlike the regular TCP volume faders.
But the tempo value shown in the tempo envelope lane (panel) seems to be missing one and a half digits here too.
Last edited by xpander; 05-20-2014 at 09:28 AM.
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05-20-2014, 09:23 AM
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*ping* that's deffo a bug / corner case / photo of my junk. Good call, thanks.
I can see the problem, all the text is taking more space than expected (see pan control, input selector).
Narrowing down, can anyone duplicate this problem on any flavour of Windows please?
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05-20-2014, 09:33 AM
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Reaper 4.62, Win 7 home premium, defaut theme.
No bug in tempo envelope lane.
Bug in master meter.
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05-20-2014, 09:55 AM
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Win 8.1 here. The master track tempo envelope panel is actually missing just part of the first digit here and that when the value has five digits. Other bug is the volume value minus sign only in front of values starting with 11, both with negative and positive values.
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05-20-2014, 10:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Tie
*ping* that's deffo a bug / corner case / photo of my junk. Good call, thanks.
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Excellent, now there's a REAPER user who *really* cares.
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05-20-2014, 12:17 PM
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The number 11 displays a minus sign but not most other numbers. Seems to be a space issue here (1 is the thinest numeric character after all). Definite bug confirmed.
edit: OS = windows 7
Last edited by Fergler; 05-20-2014 at 09:48 PM.
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05-20-2014, 02:03 PM
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Just to clarify: - This is definitely a text size rendering issue, with a probable OS component. The TCP master thing is but one symptom. What would be useful is if as many of you as possible could share screenshots of a full TCP, TCP master and Env panel with all the text bits gratuitously exposing themselves.
- Please list your OS
- I'm only interested in 100% stock REAPER 4 default theme here. If we can learn the lessons with that, they'll naturally extend to other themes.
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05-20-2014, 02:42 PM
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Problem only with the tempo envelope.
edit: minus sign for master volume seems invisible too
Win8 x64
Last edited by Breeder; 05-21-2014 at 08:27 AM.
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05-20-2014, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Tie
Just to clarify: - This is definitely a text size rendering issue, with a probable OS component. The TCP master thing is but one symptom. What would be useful is if as many of you as possible could share screenshots of a full TCP, TCP master and Env panel with all the text bits gratuitously exposing themselves.
- Please list your OS
- I'm only interested in 100% stock REAPER 4 default theme here. If we can learn the lessons with that, they'll naturally extend to other themes.
- Arsenal won the cup.
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Hi White Tie, I should have read your instructions a little closer, I made a little LICEcap of just the Master track in the TCP.
This is on Win-7 64-bit
Last edited by Tod; 05-21-2014 at 09:23 AM.
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05-21-2014, 05:59 AM
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Windows 7 64bit, fresh portable install, default theme.
Right after the install (left), tempo envelope adjusted (center) and TCP adjusted to show the Master Track volume value bug (right).
https://i.imgur.com/fTbXWrp.png
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Windows 8.1 64bit, fresh portable install, default theme.
https://i.imgur.com/b4ro4h9.png
Last edited by xpander; 05-21-2014 at 06:07 AM.
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05-21-2014, 09:28 AM
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This is my old XP, it doesn't show any "-" db at all on the Master.
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05-21-2014, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tod
This is my old XP, it doesn't show any "-" db at all on the Master.
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Not if you have the fader set with any value which has number 11 in there? It doesn't actually seem quite like a minus sign either, more like a tiny dot in front of the value.
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05-21-2014, 10:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xpander
Not if you have the fader set with any value which has number 11 in there? It doesn't actually seem quite like a minus sign either, more like a tiny dot in front of the value.
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Hey xpander, that's the case on my Win7 but I can't see a "-" at all on my old XP even if it is "11.xx".
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05-21-2014, 10:25 AM
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Ok, thanks. Only just saw your earlier gif and there it is indeed.
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05-21-2014, 12:04 PM
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Stop the bus, it was me all along. And I would have got away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids.
The fix is in. Thanks all!
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