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Old 02-05-2020, 02:19 AM   #1
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Default [6.21] "ETA infinity" on render, with video and some plugin

Also 6.21, please see this post:
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...5&postcount=17



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Hello,

OSX.14.6 and Reaper 6.03/64. Also 6.19.

1) create a new project, import a mp4 video
2) create an audio track, import a sound and insert the vst plugin "GRM Contrast Stereo"
3) show video fullscreen
3) render MPEG-4

The rendering window says "not rendering, ETA infinity".
Please see attached files.

"GRM Contrast Stereo" is a JUCE plugin. It is not 100% reproductible. This sometimes happens even if the video window is not fullscreen or closed.

This bug might be similar to
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....t=render+video
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=226482

Nicolas
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File Type: zip Apple Problem details.txt.zip (133.7 KB, 153 views)

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Old 04-15-2020, 02:18 PM   #2
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hello,
I would like to know, about this problem, if I should talk to the plugin developper or to the Reaper team ?
Thank you
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Old 04-23-2020, 11:38 AM   #3
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Default Render crash

I am quite unhappy with Reaper at the moment.

Indeed I am not able to render.
It is quite a major problem.
I can't work.

I would appreciate an answer from the Reaper team.
Thank you.
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Old 04-27-2020, 10:01 AM   #4
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Default Reaper hang on render with several GRM plugins

Some more precisions.

The problem appeared to me while rendering with video, but I noticed that if I erase the video tracks, as well as all tracks except the track with the plugin, the problem still occurs.

The problem never occured during audio render though.

I have noticed that the hang occurs mostly for these plugins:
- fusion
- warp stereo (3 times out of 4)
- grinder
- evolution with video

but not with these plugins:
- equalize stereo
- shift stereo
- warp mono
- evolution (without video)
- reson stereo
- freeze stereo
- contrast mono
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Old 04-27-2020, 10:06 AM   #5
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Default hang example with 4 GRM plugins

Here are 4 sessions demonstrating hangs with 4 different GRM plugins: Evolution, Fusion, Grinder and Warp.

Included: Reaper project, screen capture and Apple hang report.
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File Type: zip GRM Evolution Project.zip (480.9 KB, 147 views)
File Type: zip GRM Fusion Project.zip (455.4 KB, 138 views)
File Type: zip GRM grinder.zip (385.8 KB, 138 views)
File Type: zip GRM Warp stereo Project.zip (181.6 KB, 149 views)
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Old 04-30-2020, 12:15 AM   #6
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Default problem occurs with VST and not AU

I have contacted the developper and we have made further tests. It seems that the hang only happens with the VST version.

Here is a link to download trial version of the plugins.
https://inagrm.com/fr/store/product/16/complete-ii

For the moment I don't know if the problem comes from the plugin of from Reaper. But my idea is that Reaper should not allow a problematic plugin to lead to a hang like that. I had this problem for several months and lost some work because I had to Force Quit Reaper.
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Old 04-30-2020, 02:35 AM   #7
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Hi there Nicolas,
Matthias, GRM dev here. I narrowed down the problem to Reaper's ffmpeg rendering engine, and opened a new thread here https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=235444 with a bit more technical details for the Cockos devs; it's the same issue.
In the meantime you can either use another renderer (MPEG-4/MOV) or the AU version of the plugins.
Thanks for your bug report in any case.
Best,
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:29 AM   #8
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Default Problem also occurs using MPEG4/MOV renderer

Hello Matthias,
thank you for your message and investigating.
I am not using FFMPEG renderer (I have never managed to make it work on my machine...).
The bug occurs also using MPEG4/MOV (please see screenshot in my first post).
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:05 PM   #9
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I am having the same issue in various projects with different plugins - Reaper 6.19 OSX.

Has been ongoing for a while and really hard to diagnose why or when it happens.

Is this on the radar of the devs?

It is a serious issue for anyone working to picture...

Thanks a lot!
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Old 01-06-2021, 02:59 AM   #10
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Default serious issue still ongoing

Hello dadada,

I agree this is a serious issue.
Unfortunately, I have no idea how to show it up on radars.

Can you tell what plugins are concerned ?
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Old 01-06-2021, 03:23 AM   #11
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It happens on different projects, I can't pinpoint it to a specific plugin.
In this current case everything worked fine for weeks, and now without adding any extra plugins the issue appeared (impossible to render any video in any format). WAV export works fine.
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Old 01-06-2021, 03:23 AM   #12
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Did you find any kind of video/codec combination that works once you have the issue in a project?
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Old 01-06-2021, 05:53 AM   #13
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Quote:
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Did you find any kind of video/codec combination that works once you have the issue in a project?
No. I don't think codec settings have any influence.
Sometimes it works again for a few renders.
When it does not work, I have no other solution than bypassing the plugin, or freezing the track.

Please isolate the plugin that creates the bug (you remove one plugin after the other, starting with FFT plugins). It would probably be useful to know. At the moment, I can't tell if it is Reaper's fault or the plugins'.

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Old 01-06-2021, 06:05 AM   #14
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It could be that one plugin requires some user action in the background (based on your thread https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=231909).

In Reaper Preferences, could you try options such as:
- Parameter automation notifications: Ignore all notifications
- Inform plug-ins of offline rendering state

In my case it does not solve the problem.

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Old 01-09-2021, 01:49 AM   #15
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I'm having the same issues on an iMac, no plugin processes however.
After trying anything I could think of, I switched to 1x offline render and it worked.
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Old 01-21-2021, 12:48 AM   #16
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Hello unguitar,
could you provide your session and a crash report ?
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Old 01-21-2021, 01:46 AM   #17
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Default [major bug] Render ETA infinity with video and some VST

The hang still happens in Reaper v6.20 64 / MacOS 10.14

Please find here:
- the project crashing
- the Apple crash report
- a screen capture
https://stash.reaper.fm/41137/GRM%20...%20Project.zip

You can download a demo version of the plugin here:
MacOS https://inagrm.com/var/inagrm/storag..._Demo.mpkg.zip
PC https://inagrm.com/var/inagrm/storag...II_Demo_PC.zip

ETA Infinity occurs at video render, with any codec.

It might happen more often (3 times out of 4) with:
- video and plugin windows open
- MPEG-4 Video (streaming optimized) or MPEG-4 Video
- ffmepeg/libav
- Video GIF

Maybe a little less often with:
- Quicktime MOV

More details from the plugin dev here:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=235444

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Old 01-27-2021, 02:24 AM   #18
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