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10-09-2017, 06:02 PM
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v5.60pre11 - October 9 2017
v5.60pre11 - October 9 2017
+ Preferences: add option for unsoloed master/parent send when a soloed-in-place track sends to another soloed track
+ Preferences: move various solo/mute options to Audio, Mute/Solo tab
+ ReaScript: improve behavior of fade shape setting via SetMediaItemInfo_Value() with C_FADEINSHAPE etc [t=196831]
+ Track: Show correct tooltip when track muted due to envelope
# Automation items: fix recording into automation item when project timebase is set to time
# Automation items: fix recording into automation items with mute or bypass envelope in touch mode
# Automation items: initialize automation items with a single point when writing automation
# Envelopes: fix action to insert 4 points at time selection for mute and bypass envelopes
# Envelopes: fix gluing overlapping automation items with underlying envelope bypassed
Full changelog - Latest pre-releases
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10-09-2017, 11:38 PM
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now the solo is working correctly, thanks!
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10-10-2017, 01:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
v5.60pre11 - October 9 2017
+ Preferences: add option for unsoloed master/parent send when a soloed-in-place track sends to another soloed track
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Thank you
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10-10-2017, 04:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
v5.60pre11 - October 9 2017
+ Preferences: add option for unsoloed master/parent send when a soloed-in-place track sends to another soloed track
+ Preferences: move various solo/mute options to Audio, Mute/Solo tab
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This is great!
One thing though, the original issue I brought up in this thread https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=190492
is still present.
When soloing both Clean and FX and both of them are going out to a HW send, when soloing both only the FX is heard regardless on how I set the new preference.
Is this fixable aswell?
Test project attached.
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10-10-2017, 04:31 AM
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Any Audio stretched with Rubberband Time Domain Smoothing still causes the track to Mute and say Automated when you hit play.
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10-10-2017, 04:45 AM
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pre 11 still has visible artifacts in the waveform when using an AI item to control volume pre-fx on a track.
If you have an AI under an audio item that is at any other level than the what the envelope is at outside of the AI then pressing play causes the audio items waveform to be increased massively so that it's visibly distorted.
It's only a visible artefact though and has no bearing on the audio itself that acts normally. It's just a bit hard to work with
Let me know if you need a licecap devs or if that makes sense as it is.
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10-10-2017, 05:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musicbynumbers
pre 11 still has visible artifacts in the waveform when using an AI item to control volume pre-fx on a track.
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Can't reproduce, so a screen cap would be helpful, thanks.
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10-10-2017, 05:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
v5.60pre11 - October 9 2017
# Automation items: initialize automation items with a single point when writing automation
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ahhh this is really great!
here's another gif of the issue where writing in/deleting AI/writing in again results in no new AI for fx param. it seems to work OK for pan, but not for FX param.
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10-10-2017, 05:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Futur8me
Any Audio stretched with Rubberband Time Domain Smoothing still causes the track to Mute and say Automated when you hit play.
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Waiting to hear back from the RBL author to see if there's a fix for that mode... that's the auto-mute kicking in, you can put a hard limiter on the track at +0dB (or +6dB or whatever) it to prevent the automute.
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10-10-2017, 05:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mccrabney
here's another gif of the issue where writing in/deleting AI/writing in again results in no new AI for fx param. it seems to work OK for pan, but not for FX param.
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I can't reproduce that. Does it only happen with certain plugins? What is the automation mode (touch, write, etc)?
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10-10-2017, 05:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
I can't reproduce that. Does it only happen with certain plugins? What is the automation mode (touch, write, etc)?
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hm. it's all plugins (just tested with REAEQ, and all modes that write in automation. i have disabled underlying automation outside of AIs, have AIs set to record into media lane, have write modes set to create new AIs, etc. playback is stopped. there's also a looped time selection. win10x64. any other info i could give you?
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10-10-2017, 05:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
# Envelopes: fix action to insert 4 points at time selection for mute and bypass envelopes
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This should be 2 points, square only (imo)
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Last edited by G-Sun; 10-10-2017 at 07:26 AM.
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10-10-2017, 06:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mccrabney
record into media lane
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That's it. Fixing, thanks.
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10-10-2017, 06:22 AM
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thanks, schwa!!
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btw MPL, i did some testing with your script "Insert 1 measure long automation item for last touched parameter" -- i was still getting multiple stacked AIs. i fixed the issue i was having by commenting out the "InsertAutomationItem" command, which leaves a time-selection sized AI in the selected track. counter intuitive but it worked....
Code:
function InsertAI(env)
if not env then return end
local AI_pos = GetCursorPosition()
local cur_pos_beats, cur_pos_measures = TimeMap2_timeToBeats( 0, AI_pos )
local AI_len = TimeMap2_beatsToTime( 0, cur_pos_beats, cur_pos_measures+1 ) - AI_pos
--InsertAutomationItem( env, -1, AI_pos, AI_len ) -- add pool to RPP with negative srclen, not visible in project
TrackList_AdjustWindows( false )
UpdateArrange()
end
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10-10-2017, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Waiting to hear back from the RBL author to see if there's a fix for that mode... that's the auto-mute kicking in, you can put a hard limiter on the track at +0dB (or +6dB or whatever) it to prevent the automute.
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Ok thankyou for the explanation.. I'll give it a try.
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10-10-2017, 07:53 AM
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A) Options: Bypass underlying envelope outside of automation items
B) Options: Always create new automation items when writing automation and envelope is bypassed outside of automation items
C) Options: Always create new automation items when writing automation
This seems sort of weird,
Enable options A & C, write automation (envelopes or from fx) and only a short AI is created, but works as expected when A & B, or A,B & C are enabled.
EDIT I guess this is in part same bug mccrabney is talking about, cause if I delete that short AI and try and write again (using same A&C options) it doesn't write an AI at all.
Win7/x64
Last edited by Edgemeal; 10-10-2017 at 08:19 AM.
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10-10-2017, 09:08 AM
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I notice rematrix plugin as send effect with this version(and some older versions) that now it have always a delay and the buggy plugin compatible mode do not help. see about problem in this thread https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=195122
wy is reaper so much diffrent with buffer handling. I write a report with drumcore. this work only correct with 1/100 sample rate /buffer.for 44100 sample rate need 441 samples buffer. Now i notice it do click on loop play begin pos with reaper but only when bpm is diffrent to 120. soundcard have no problem
I test cubase and now fruity loop demo. they have no problem with rematrix and drumcore loop play or sync. so what they do diffrent with buffer handling. thread about drumcore is this
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=196652
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10-10-2017, 09:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
A) Options: Bypass underlying envelope outside of automation items
B) Options: Always create new automation items when writing automation and envelope is bypassed outside of automation items
C) Options: Always create new automation items when writing automation
This seems sort of weird,
Enable options A & C, write automation (envelopes or from fx) and only a short AI is created, but works as expected when A & B, or A,B & C are enabled.
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The reason the automation item is created in your screencap is that when you have "automatically add envelopes when tweaking parameters in automation write modes" enabled, the envelope gets created but unless we automatically add that initial automation item, the envelope would just appear and be empty which is also weird.
Maybe we should remove B as an option and just have that always be the behavior. One nice side effect of B is that if it's disabled, you can draw automation items and then when you write automation while playing back, it acts like an automation item autopunch mode. But that side effect doesn't really justify a global option, since we can add an autopunch mode later.
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10-10-2017, 11:03 AM
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TBH I also wouldn't mind removing the "automation items attach..." project/envelope options.
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10-10-2017, 11:07 AM
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You mean, with them gone, AIs would always attach from both sides when underlying envelope is NOT hidden? If so, I agree, if not, I don't agree - I would never use any other mode, just my 2c.
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10-10-2017, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Can't reproduce, so a screen cap would be helpful, thanks.
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Hopefully this will be reproducible but let me know if not. Could be something weird like a audio item peak display preference if not
EDIT: also, on longer tracks like this with loads of AI items it gets even crazier and more unpredictable when you have more than just a simple up or down adjustment.
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10-11-2017, 06:35 AM
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FX Chains don't seem to load now.
Win10 64bit.
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10-11-2017, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thalamus
FX Chains don't seem to load now.
Win10 64bit.
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Ah duplicated via right click in mixer FX button, I think. Fixing!
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10-12-2017, 05:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlprod
This is great!
One thing though, the original issue I brought up in this thread https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=190492
is still present.
When soloing both Clean and FX and both of them are going out to a HW send, when soloing both only the FX is heard regardless on how I set the new preference.
Is this fixable aswell?
Test project attached.
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Thanks, looking at fixing!
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