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Old 06-14-2018, 11:17 AM   #1
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Default Media Explorer Enhancements: Fully Featured SFX Database Tool

Summary -

Many sound designers use either Sound Miner or Basehead as a supplementary tool alongside Reaper, paying an extra 200-800 dollars to have some additional features that would be great to see come to the media explorer. I think this would add a great deal of value for users.

Here is a list I came up with, feel free to add on to this if you think of something else that's missing, or shoot down ideas that don't make sense.

Reverse playback
Ability to audition samples in the media explorer with reverse playback

Play random sample in search results
Select random search result to playback

Open file/selection in external editor
Ability to open sample in external editor
(saved files create new instance in media path, non destructive)

Shortcut: show in explorer/finder; Show location in media explorer
Assignable shortcut for this action; Additional action to show folder
structure in media explorer.

Add file to database (I use a database called "Taglist")
Specify a database to add to from your current search. Can be used as a
taglist.

Add playback rate slider; increase pitch shift knob range
Add slider that behaves like the playback rate control, independent of the
project and pitch shift knob. Increase range of pitch shoft knob beyond +/-12
semitones.

Metadata searching, tagging, columns
Metadata columns or description field, ability to edit/batch edit metadata.

Print FX on import / play through specific track (Addition to Play through selected track).
Ability to print fx to item on import, basically saves a step printing FX to
items after importing them. Additional ability to play through a track acting
as a vst rack.

Import with tail
Complements previous feature - user selected tail time (ms) imported with item.

Additional Search Features
Favorite Searches, Recent Searches, Search remains in field and gets applied
when switching databases.

Mark Played Files
Files that have been played already get a text color change (slightly greyed
out). Ability to reset this tag.

Database Group Searching
Ability to select and search through multiple databases. Allows for better
organization of assets.
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:11 PM   #2
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Summary -

Many sound designers use either Sound Miner or Basehead as a supplementary tool alongside Reaper, paying an extra 200-800 dollars to have some additional features that would be great to see come to the media explorer. I think this would add a great deal of value for users.

Here is a list I came up with, feel free to add on to this if you think of something else that's missing, or shoot down ideas that don't make sense.

Reverse playback
Ability to audition samples in the media explorer with reverse playback

Play random sample in search results
Select random search result to playback

Open file/selection in external editor
Ability to open sample in external editor
(saved files create new instance in media path, non destructive)

Shortcut: show in explorer/finder; Show location in media explorer
Assignable shortcut for this action; Additional action to show folder
structure in media explorer.

Add file to database (I use a database called "Taglist")
Specify a database to add to from your current search. Can be used as a
taglist.

Add playback rate slider; increase pitch shift knob range
Add slider that behaves like the playback rate control, independent of the
project and pitch shift knob. Increase range of pitch shoft knob beyond +/-12
semitones.

Metadata searching, tagging, columns
Metadata columns or description field, ability to edit/batch edit metadata.

Print FX on import / play through specific track (Addition to Play through selected track).
Ability to print fx to item on import, basically saves a step printing FX to
items after importing them. Additional ability to play through a track acting
as a vst rack.

Import with tail
Complements previous feature - user selected tail time (ms) imported with item.

Additional Search Features
Favorite Searches, Recent Searches, Search remains in field and gets applied
when switching databases.

Mark Played Files
Files that have been played already get a text color change (slightly greyed
out). Ability to reset this tag.

Database Group Searching
Ability to select and search through multiple databases. Allows for better
organization of assets.

Amazing !! +1 for this...
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Old 06-15-2018, 03:20 AM   #3
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https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=195169
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=196017

I'm not sure if ever growing reposted lists help.

From a user perspective I don't want to give thums up to all. Reason being that I want to nudge my favourite requests up.

From a developers standpoint the list cover a quite unrelated feature set. Eg reverse playback is quite a different beast compared to tag managment.

Anyway, I agree that the media explorer could be improved in many ways.

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Old 06-15-2018, 03:32 AM   #4
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I like the random sound idea
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Old 06-15-2018, 03:34 AM   #5
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I would use pretty much all of these, especially metadata editing
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:53 AM   #6
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The biggest issue for me is actual browsing like in file explorer. It's too slow and clunky when you have a huge library with many sub folders. Many other DAWs e.g. Ableton, Bitwig use tree-like folder browsing, which is much more efficient.

And this databases thing obviously was designed without typical electronic production samples library in mind. If I make some 'vendor-name' folder as database it wold be HUGE pile of unsorted samples. If I create databases from individual sample packs, I'll end with too many databases, and they still be big mess inside.
And it's impossible to create categorized databases (loops, one-shots, basslines etc) because there's no standard on how sample packs are structured. Some have their own structure, some piles everything in BPM-labled folders, some use genres, etc. And shortcuts are not very helpful too - ether you have some high level shortcuts which still requires do many click when going deeper, or again you have tons of shortcuts.

Because of that I minimized my library for about 20GB (excluding soundware for samplers) of essentials, but it's still about 3000 folders to browse through!
So, my biggest FR request for media browser is ADD TREE VIEW on left pane, please! Ideally with ability to add databases as subfolders.
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:37 PM   #7
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+1 to having a TREE VIEW.
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