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v5.81rc1 - May 12 2018
  • Changes since 5.81pre13:
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  • - MIDI paste: improve behavior when pasting past end of visible item and extend is off [p=1988464]
  • - VST3: FabFilter-only fix
    removed (returning in 5.82pre1):
  • - mainthread VST/AU initializations
  • - Live FX multiprocessing improvements
  • - WALTER new feature additions
  • - new stretchmarker timing modes
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Which ones?
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    - WALTER: clearing anything in tcp.* now disables all legacy sizing logic
    - WALTER: support define_parameter scalar_name 'description' default_value min_value max_value
    - WALTER: add mixer_visible scalar (maybe)
    - WALTER: add track_selected scalar
    - WALTER: add os_type scalar, 0=win32, 1=macOS, 2=linux
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    - API: add ThemeLayout_SetParameter(), ThemeLayout_GetParameter(), ThemeLayout_RefreshAll() for use with define_parameter lines
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Spoke too soon about the fixed sluggish hand scrolling in the MIDI editor... The issue is back (independent of old/new PREs). But I was able to track it down. It seems to be a resolution issue. My monitor runs @ 3440x1440 pixels.
With that resolution the hand scrolling is laggy. However, when switching to 2560 x 1080, everything works as expected. Any idea, what could cause this?
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Spoke too soon about the fixed sluggish hand scrolling in the MIDI editor... The issue is back (independent of old/new PREs). But I was able to track it down. It seems to be a resolution issue. My monitor runs @ 3440x1440 pixels.
With that resolution the hand scrolling is laggy. However, when switching to 2560 x 1080, everything works as expected. Any idea, what could cause this?
what OS?
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Windows 8.1 x64 but happens also on my 2nd machine with latest Windows 10 (connected to the same monitor via KVM).
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Windows 8.1 x64 but happens also on my 2nd machine with latest Windows 10 (connected to the same monitor via KVM).
Is it also in 5.80?
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"- new stretchmarker timing modes"

Mmm, pretty wondering what this is ..
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Spoke too soon about the fixed sluggish hand scrolling in the MIDI editor... The issue is back (independent of old/new PREs). But I was able to track it down. It seems to be a resolution issue. My monitor runs @ 3440x1440 pixels.
With that resolution the hand scrolling is laggy. However, when switching to 2560 x 1080, everything works as expected. Any idea, what could cause this?
I will double check this on my setup. I have dual 3440 x 1440 monitors and have had some sluggish redraws and scrolling but it has seemed intermittent so I didn't relate it to resolution size. I'm running an Nvidia P4000 which is a pretty beefy graphics card.
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Is it also in 5.80?
Yep, in all versions since I started using Reaper (November 2017).
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I will double check this on my setup. I have dual 3440 x 1440 monitors and have had some sluggish redraws and scrolling but it has seemed intermittent so I didn't relate it to resolution size. I'm running an Nvidia P4000 which is a pretty beefy graphics card.
Awesome Klangfarben! Thanks!
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[*]- new stretchmarker timing modes
Where can these be accessed? (In Project Settings and in Item Properties, I only see "Optimize for tonal content", and none of the other pre-echo options that were recently added.)

Downward sloping stretch segments, even long ones, have terrible pre-echoes.
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Where can these be accessed? (In Project Settings and in Item Properties, I only see "Optimize for tonal content", and none of the other pre-echo options that were recently added.)

Downward sloping stretch segments, even long ones, have terrible pre-echoes.
removed, back in 5.82...
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[*]- MIDI paste: improve behavior when pasting past end of visible item and extend is off [p=1988464]
Thanks, boss. A new detail: You can get a 0 length note if note on pasted on the edge, either at the cursor, time selection copy, or nth note in a group of notes.
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Thanks, boss. A new detail: You can get a 0 length note if note on pasted on the edge, either at the cursor, time selection copy, or nth note in a group of notes.

Ah oops, thanks, fixing
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Hi i have a bug related to multi out VST3 (Roland Cloud tr-808).
As soon as i load a song containig a multi out VST3 of TR-808 Reaper crash.
As soon as i try to load in a new empty project a Track template containing Roland tr-808 VST3 with a multi out layout Reaper crash. Everything works ok in pre11, pre12, pre13. I only have the crash with RC1.
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Hi i have a bug related to multi out VST3 (Roland Cloud tr-808).
As soon as i load a song containig a multi out VST3 of TR-808 Reaper crash.
As soon as i try to load in a new empty project a Track template containing Roland tr-808 VST3 with a multi out layout Reaper crash. Everything works ok in pre11, pre12, pre13. I only have the crash with RC1.
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How about 5.80?
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How about 5.80?
5.80 crashes as 5.81RC1 does. 5.81pre11, pre12, pre13 all working fine.
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5.80 crashes as 5.81RC1 does. 5.81pre11, pre12, pre13 all working fine.
Thanks, this is somewhat expected (the relevant features/fixes in 5.81preX will eventually go to a release but they are not yet ready).
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Thanks, this is somewhat expected (the relevant features/fixes in 5.81preX will eventually go to a release but they are not yet ready).
Thanks Justin.
So should i stay with 5.81pre13 and avoid RC2 and wait for 5.82preXX?
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Thanks Justin.
So should i stay with 5.81pre13 and avoid RC2 and wait for 5.82preXX?
Yeah I suppose if you must use that plug-in, yeah. Though testing 5.81rcX to compare against 5.80 for regressions would be helpful!
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[*]- VST3: FabFilter-only fix
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Is this the issue where presets are not correctly stored/recalled?
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Is this the issue where presets are not correctly stored/recalled?
If on take FX or bypassed track FX, if you changed parameters without audio being processed, those changes would not end up in the project/undo history/saved presets.
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If on take FX or bypassed track FX, if you changed parameters without audio being processed, those changes would not end up in the project/undo history/saved presets.
Ah, I think that is the problem. I'm hoping that FabFilter and/or Cockos can resolve that one one of these days.

I sent them an email reminder the other day but so far, no response.
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Ah, I think that is the problem. I'm hoping that FabFilter and/or Cockos can resolve that one one of these days.

I sent them an email reminder the other day but so far, no response.
It should be resolved in 5.81rc1/2.
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It should be resolved in 5.81rc1/2.
Thanks! Then I might be able to migrate to all VST/VST3 instances which should clear up my weird playback glitch when I have all AU plugins except one VST UAD plugin.

In these cases I get a little playback interruption but if I use all AU or all VST/VST3 everything is OK from what I remember. It's been awhile since I looked into it though.
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I will double check this on my setup. I have dual 3440 x 1440 monitors and have had some sluggish redraws and scrolling but it has seemed intermittent so I didn't relate it to resolution size. I'm running an Nvidia P4000 which is a pretty beefy graphics card.
Same problem on my rig with 1x 4k monitor and 3 x 2k monitors. I'm on the Nvidia M4000. I believe it's the same issue with the AMD cards.

It started happening about 3 months ago.
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Yep, in all versions since I started using Reaper (November 2017).
Yep, that's about when I started noticing it as well. Scrolling and track selection are the main problems here.
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Ah thanks for the confirmation srdmusic! I was really doubting my senses, since no one really had the same issue

I'm running a Gigabyte Radeon RX460 WINDFORCE OC 2G.
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Yeah I suppose if you must use that plug-in, yeah. Though testing 5.81rcX to compare against 5.80 for regressions would be helpful!
no more problems with 5.90RC1.
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@Klangfarben: were you able to re-produce the sluggish behaviour issue?
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@Klangfarben: were you able to re-produce the sluggish behaviour issue?
I haven't been able to confirm better processing 5.90 yet but I will be doing a large session later this week.
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Spoke too soon about the fixed sluggish hand scrolling in the MIDI editor... The issue is back (independent of old/new PREs). But I was able to track it down. It seems to be a resolution issue. My monitor runs @ 3440x1440 pixels.
With the MIDI editor maximized at 3440x1440 here I don't have any problems with lag. It feels very snappy for me.

8700K, Windows 10 x64, NVIDIA 1080 Ti.

I do notice that the dropdown boxes in each of the CC lanes are continuously repainting as I'm panning around. This creates a flicker that makes things look rather unpolished, and although for me it doesn't seem to be causing any performance issues, maybe it's related for you? Do things improve at all if you close all CC lanes (and minimize the last one)?
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Hey guys!

@Tack: yeah, in the past, I already checked if removing the CC lanes improves things. But with no luck.

Today, I found out, that not only the MIDI editor is affected, but also the arrange window. Furthermore, one of my cores seems to really hit the ceiling:

https://i.imgur.com/1Gq9Pre.gifv

However, I'm still puzzled about the cause of this issue...
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Today, I found out, that not only the MIDI editor is affected, but also the arrange window. Furthermore, one of my cores seems to really hit the ceiling
I see similar sorts of things on my CPU graph but it remains quite smooth for me. Just to rule it out, any difference if you use the default theme? Or maybe even try a fresh portable install?
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Okay, so CPU doesn't seem to be the problem.

Yes, I tried already the default theme and even checked with a portable install. Same result... I even tried different Hz modes on the monitor. From 30 to 75. Nothing.

May I ask which screen you got? I have an LG 34UC88-B.
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May I ask which screen you got? I have an LG 34UC88-B.
Acer Predator X34. But it's almost guaranteed to be unrelated to the screen itself. It's far more likely to be related to the video driver than the monitor.
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I was already thinking about that. But I have 2 different machines with the same issue. The only thing they have in common is, that they both have ATI cards inside. But the 1st machine has a HD 6850 and the 2nd an RX 460.
Newest drivers are installed of course.
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Maybe I should add, that using the scrollbar for scrolling, works perfectly.
No laggyness or stuttering.
Also, there is no flickering in the CC lanes.
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Maybe I should add, that using the scrollbar for scrolling, works perfectly.
No laggyness or stuttering.
Also, there is no flickering in the CC lanes.
How are you scrolling when it lags? Err nm I see, hand scrolling. Looking.
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