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I think there are some user developed JS utilities for this, but I am not 100% certain as I've not used them. I think there is one called "Reasampleomatic" and "ReaDrums".




I use multi track setups for both SD and SSD, and then write the MIDI on a separate track, and send the MIDI to both samplers.
I do similar but a little less convoluted:
SSD and EZD/DFH are inserted on the same track; DFH first then SSD. The snare, toms, and kick are disabled in DFH leaving only hats and OH's. SSD has 2 snares (blended), 2 kicks (blended), and toms loaded. All individual drums are routed to separate tracks including room tracks.
Doing it this way you don't hafta route midi to 2 tracks. Just insert the midi file on the same track as DFH/SSD. OH's get EQ and mild compression. The SSD drums go untreated as they sound pretty stellar to begin with.
Everything is foldered with density or sometimes ReaComp on the buss.
I'd happily upload the template if anyones interested.
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Old 04-11-2010, 05:04 PM   #82
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Thanks for the tips on the drums Pattonfreak1, I couldn't get my drum mapping to match in SSD/EZ Drummer, but doing the way you suggest, it works great!!! I can use my old MIDI files from old songs/projects & don't have to go through the re-mapping agony!!! Thanks for the tip, works like a charm!!! Listening to the song through the home stereo as I type, sounds amazing, pro stuff for sure....Great job!!!
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Thanks for the tips on the drums Pattonfreak1, I couldn't get my drum mapping to match in SSD/EZ Drummer, but doing the way you suggest, it works great!!! I can use my old MIDI files from old songs/projects & don't have to go through the re-mapping agony!!! Thanks for the tip, works like a charm!!! Listening to the song through the home stereo as I type, sounds amazing, pro stuff for sure....Great job!!!
I have a way of doing drums for the FTA that is even easier........








I have Steve and Chris do it.




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Cool Shemp, I wish I could do that Great playing btw man, I really admire your playing style, & you always seem to have great tones. Any info on the signal chain/amp sims/etc for a less accomplished wannabe??? Great song/playing man, really rocks!!!
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I have a way of doing drums for the FTA that is even easier........








I have Steve and Chris do it.




Heh-Hah!
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Cool Shemp, I wish I could do that Great playing btw man, I really admire your playing style, & you always seem to have great tones. Any info on the signal chain/amp sims/etc for a less accomplished wannabe??? Great song/playing man, really rocks!!!
Thanks! Glad you like.

As far as tones, the setup was posted earlier, but, I use Line-6 Gearbox and usually use the Spinal Puppet amp preset (tweeked a bit to taste) with the Tube screamer but in this tune I recorded all the guitars totally dry and Chris ran them thru the X30 amp sim.
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Thanks Shemp,
Sorry to be so "blind", I have the same sims/cabs so maybe I can get some cool sounds like you do......Killer playing Shemp!!!
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Thanks Shemp,
Sorry to be so "blind", I have the same sims/cabs so maybe I can get some cool sounds like you do......Killer playing Shemp!!!
One thing that I find works well is applying some light tape saturation effects to the guitar tracks - the amp sims don't saturate exactly like an actual amp, so that adds a littlebit more realism to the final product.

Thanks for all the comments dudes!
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Old 04-15-2010, 08:48 AM   #89
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One thing that I find works well is applying some light tape saturation effects to the guitar tracks - the amp sims don't saturate exactly like an actual amp, so that adds a littlebit more realism to the final product.

Thanks for all the comments dudes!
JS_badbussmojo works wonders also
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Ahhhh - I forgot about that puppy!
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:58 PM   #91
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maybe just one more shameless bump?
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Well bless me if that is not just the best gosh-darn one yet you chaps!

Sorry so late to come in but I've been away and then proofing nick's SWS bible: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.p...690#post494690 - (wait till you see it you will freak out!)

You are really pulling together that amazing trick of keeping it very heavy and very 'ard while also transcending the genre, so that there is musical and thematic interest and excitement on top of the heaviness.

And there is nothing to choose between you - clearly each of you are bringing the full 100% of creativity to the thing. Having said that, this is PF's best vocal yet by a long way for me and I thought the others were far-frickin-out.

Wonderful. I'm sorry to bang on like this but your stuff just brings out the pompous in me!
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maybe just one more shameless bump?
look here mister, i already told you it's fucking great....bumbety bump....

what do you want - a frilly hat and a bow tie?


.. oops, I forgot you already have those things


You done a good job of making it loud without squashing it Chris, you must be the smartest clown in the circus
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Well bless me if that is not just the best gosh-darn one yet you chaps!

Sorry so late to come in but I've been away and then proofing nick's SWS bible: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.p...690#post494690 - (wait till you see it you will freak out!)

You are really pulling together that amazing trick of keeping it very heavy and very 'ard while also transcending the genre, so that there is musical and thematic interest and excitement on top of the heaviness.

And there is nothing to choose between you - clearly each of you are bringing the full 100% of creativity to the thing. Having said that, this is PF's best vocal yet by a long way for me and I thought the others were far-frickin-out.

Wonderful. I'm sorry to bang on like this but your stuff just brings out the pompous in me!
Ahh - thanks Spike! Really appreciate the comments my man! Hope you've been well lately!

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look here mister, i already told you it's fucking great....bumbety bump....

what do you want - a frilly hat and a bow tie?


.. oops, I forgot you already have those things


You done a good job of making it loud without squashing it Chris, you must be the smartest clown in the circus
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HAHA! Smart and Chris in the same sentence - well... you may be pushing it.

Thanks man - I have been using Elephant by Voxengo for limiting - it's so transparent (thanks Steve for the tip!)
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(thanks Steve for the tip!)
Anytime homey...
Lets see who all is still paying attention:
Here's a clip from the next one. No bass... No vox... No magic dust from Scott... Yet.

http://www.box.net/shared/xfolul511n
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Anytime homey...
Lets see who all is still paying attention:
Here's a clip from the next one. No bass... No vox... No magic dust from Scott... Yet.

http://www.box.net/shared/xfolul511n
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that is the shit johnny!!!!
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Sneak preview == sweetness. Sounds awesome. Can't wait.

Every tune you guys do sounds really different from the last. This is no exception.

Thanks for the tease!
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Every tune you guys do sounds really different from the last. This is no exception.
That's due to the diverse background among all three of us:
Scott brings the bluesy/rock vibe.
Chris brings the brootalz \m/.
I bring the noise
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I'd happily upload the template if anyones interested.
Hey Patton,
Please do upload the template for the SSD/EZX man, I'd like to try it out......Been playing around with some new plugs lately too, thanks for all the tips, & thanks again for letting us all hear this great song, it's killer!!!!
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Please do upload the template for the SSD/EZX man, I'd like to try it out......Been playing around with some new plugs lately too, thanks for all the tips, & thanks again for letting us all hear this great song, it's killer!!!!
Will do later tonite... And thanks again!
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Cool man, I really appreciate the template....I finally have a couple days off to do some recording, seems like ages...Life sometimes gets in the way of things...HA HA Thanks, & again, this is a kick ass song man, you guys are really great!!!
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Cool man, I really appreciate the template....I finally have a couple days off to do some recording, seems like ages...Life sometimes gets in the way of things...HA HA Thanks, & again, this is a kick ass song man, you guys are really great!!!
Here ya go man...

https://stash.reaper.fm/4996/Drum%20Buss.RTrackTemplate
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Very, very cool, & a very big thanks to ya man, I really appreciate it!!! On another question, you recommend any tape/tube simulators? Sorry to keep pestering, but really wanna make my stuff sound as good as possible (hopefully it'll compare with yours someday....) Thanks again!!!!
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Hey guys,

Can't honestly say this genre is my cup of tea. But, I can honestly say that you sound great, and I can appreciate the talent and effort that went into this production. Actually kinda catchy, really. Never know. You guys might convert me some day! Keep up the good work.
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Very, very cool, & a very big thanks to ya man, I really appreciate it!!! On another question, you recommend any tape/tube simulators? Sorry to keep pestering, but really wanna make my stuff sound as good as possible (hopefully it'll compare with yours someday....) Thanks again!!!!
Oh sure there are plenty:
Variety of Sound's FerricTDS and/or Tesla Pro
JB's Ferox
Acrobatics Rombo
Antress' Modern Analoguer
DigitalFishPhones' THD
Elogoxa's Baxxpander
Tin Brooke Tales' Tls Saturated Driver
Togu Audio Line's TAL-TUBE

Not to mention JS_BadBussMojo and JS_Sturation which are included with REAPER.

Of the above mentioned I'd say Ferric, Modern Analouger, and Tls Saturated Driver are prolly the best.
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You guys might convert me some day!
I bet the next one will be right up your alley!
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Thanks yet again Patton, I actually have a couple of those plugs already, so I should be good to go, thanks again!!!!
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super stoked for the new tune!
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Thanks yet again Patton, I actually have a couple of those plugs already, so I should be good to go, thanks again!!!!
No prob mate.
I'm kind of a connoisseur of free vst/vsti's. Variety of Sound, Signaltonoize, and Antress are about the best in free vst's. However, for compressor/eq/limiter/dynamic needs, 99% of the time I wind up going with a plug that's included with REAPER.
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I'm kinda the same way, free is good!!! HA HA I tried the track template & it loaded up perfect, I see you use EZ Player pro too, really nice program there, saves me a lot of time with my MIDI stuff.....Thanks again Patton, I really appreciate it!!!!
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I see you use EZ Player pro too,
Actually I use EZPlayer Free
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Thanks again Patton, I really appreciate it!!!!
Again man, not a problem
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Hey man whats that over there?

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Sorry about being a bit late in commenting. I've been listening to it on and off for a while.

It's not the type of music I'm usually into, but your style has something extra about it that I really like and this track has really grown on me.

I especially like the guitar work, but that's what I tend to focus on.

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holy crap, I forgot about the vid!! FUCK! ok, maybe this weekend. Sorry guise
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Sorry about being a bit late in commenting. I've been listening to it on and off for a while.

It's not the type of music I'm usually into, but your style has something extra about it that I really like and this track has really grown on me.

I especially like the guitar work, but that's what I tend to focus on.

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