Old 07-06-2017, 02:08 AM   #1
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Hello all!

first up, this is my first post, but I have been following this forum for about 2-3 years and I love this community <3

I've been searching for a solution for my problem for about a year now but nothing I've tried has worked 100% so far. I hope you guys can point me in a direction...
I am not a native English speaker, but I hope I can convey my issue properly...

Here's my problem:

I am using Reaper in a studio AND live situation where all my bands inputs are properly routed, FX chains are applied and individual (headphone-)monitoring has been set up for all band members.
I am using an amp VST (BIAS FX) for all my individual string instruments. Every song we play has it's own Reaper project tab and I am happy with the setup this far.
However: Most songs require a set of different guitar tones for specific sections of the song (intro, chorus, solo... you get it). Therefore I have set up my reaper in a way that I have multiple FX tracks for a single guitar input and at those section changes I route my guitar signal to one of them:

[Guitar Input] --(Send Envelope)--> [Guitar FX 1] ---> [Guitar Out]
~~~~~~~~~ |-(Send Envelope)--> [Guitar FX 2] ---> [Guitar Out]
~~~~~~~~~ |-(Send Envelope)--> [Guitar FX 3] ---> [Guitar Out]

In this example the send envelopes are exclusive to each other. Only one Send can be active at any time. So the Envelope "matrix" kinda looks like this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/54rxvsbl07...eaper.png?dl=0

Those Send Envelopes are set up statically in the project and I am looking for a way to make them dynamic. I want to be able to extend a solo on the spot and switch between FX chains using a Midi Controller.

So naturally I've been looking into SWS Extensions and I've tried multiple combinations. The best I could come up with was using multiple snapshots for exclusive muting on those 3 tracks. I.e. 3 seperate snapshots with only one FX track unmuted. This works kinda well, but here's the catch:
I also want to be able to record those FX changes. The way my project is set up I only record the DI on the [Guitar Input] track. I want to keep it this way so that I can mix live recordings using different amp settings at a later stage.

So is there a way to dynamically set up FX Chain changes in a live setting wich can be recorded and recalled in a "playback" or "rendering" situation?

I really need your help with this.

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Old 07-06-2017, 04:28 AM   #2
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Have you tried record output ? Send all three guitars to same bus and set to record output. You will be able to record both the DI and the fx tracks if you want.
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Old 07-06-2017, 04:34 AM   #3
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Hi

Read the thread ,maybe it helps you.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=192205
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:10 AM   #4
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Thank you for your replies!
Both your solutions suggest, that I record the output of the FX tracks. I am reluctant to do so, because:
A: I would have to do the FX-routing every time I change amp settings or do a new take (In effect hit my midi controller buttons everytime i do a new mix)
and B: this clutters up my recording takes on the harddrive (not such a big deal... but still ^^)

I realise that my request is a bit picky I want to have an All-In-One solution for live and studio. There might not be such thing.

If you have any more suggestions as to how i can record my send changes and have them be repeated automatically everytime I play or record the project please keep them coming.

Thank you very much!
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