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09-09-2006, 02:13 AM
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track delay (per milisecond or sample)
Sometimes you have to sincronize things manualy...
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09-09-2006, 05:47 AM
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There's a suitable delay among the Reaper JS effects, I think you'll find.
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09-10-2006, 04:04 AM
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Thanks, found it yesterday. and also found voxengo sample delay in vst folder. Silly me...
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09-10-2006, 07:17 AM
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but it's not a bad request. i would like a track-delay parameter too!
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09-11-2006, 08:51 AM
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+1
This function would be beautyful, especially without any plugins involved.
'couse i love to use my analog delays (Boss DM-300, and a Roland RE-501) as "sound-character-deformators". I use only the dry, delayed signal, without any feedback. But in this case that track goes out of time. If there is a chance, please make the offset from zero to for e.g. +/- 1 or 2sec. Or more. (in ms, AND in samples)
in my setup, the MINUS value is the key
Last edited by beatbybit; 09-11-2006 at 08:54 AM.
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01-06-2007, 02:52 AM
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+1
You could also manually edit the clip position in item properties, but it would be time saving to be able to delay/advance a whole track by a time or sample constant.
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01-10-2007, 05:43 PM
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+1 with negative values
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01-10-2007, 07:29 PM
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+1 (negative and positive values).
Sometimes it's very helpful (I loved this feature in Logic).
I'd propose a (negative and positive) delay to be available both for the whole track and per clip (if required, both would be added/substracted).
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01-11-2007, 09:38 AM
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This would come anyway if direct support for external hardware would be added. Seems to be a request on other DAWs too - a ping command to auto set the track delay compensation with manual override of course.
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01-11-2007, 09:47 AM
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you can in fact get negative values via a trick,
for example....in some projects i assume that 5 secs is actually
zero....think about it conceptually.
thus useing item properties this allows u to slip a track back in time for alignment or whatever.
if u start recording all tracks at 5 secs this lets you do it.
sometimes on vocals for example i'll record two passes on two seperate tracks. on the second track if i want a bit of delayed
bass on the voc for example....in item properties i'll
set the track forward a few millisecs (start position)....then boost the lows n cut the highs useing eq for example.
thus creating a delayed bass idea.
you can set a track or a individual clip anywhere useing start posn in item properties.
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03-14-2007, 12:03 AM
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Last edited by Dstruct; 07-07-2016 at 09:22 AM.
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03-14-2007, 02:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sebas777
+1 (negative and positive values).
Sometimes it's very helpful (I loved this feature in Logic).
I'd propose a (negative and positive) delay to be available both for the whole track and per clip (if required, both would be added/substracted).
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+1! Miss that too.
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03-14-2007, 12:00 PM
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Yeah
++1 for the negative values! gonna make backwurtz-reavurbz!
//edit: noticed something? i wrote reverb with an a. reAv... makes you think, doesn't it?
Last edited by Till; 03-14-2007 at 12:03 PM.
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12-03-2007, 12:33 PM
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Per track offset
Hi, I've seen that there's a "Cocks Insert" plugin that uses the latency compensation to delay all other tracks, but it would be great to have a track parameter to offset (negative or positive) the midi notes, so the notes are played before, then the audio shouldn't be retarded, reducing latencies when using external midi instruments.
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12-03-2007, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wikter
there's a "Cocks Insert" plugin
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there is???????
/me quickly hurries to the plugin list!
BTW, in all seriousness, this would be a good thing.
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12-03-2007, 12:49 PM
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it's called "JS: Delay/time_adjustment"
we can adjust the track timing (audio or MIDI) by ms, and/or samples.
but sure, i'd love to see this integrated into the TCP/MCP.
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12-03-2007, 12:51 PM
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is it possible to do negative as well as positive?
-- took two seconds and checked myself.
it does.
Last edited by Jae.Thomas; 12-03-2007 at 12:54 PM.
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12-03-2007, 05:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill
is it possible to do negative as well as positive?
-- took two seconds and checked myself.
it does.
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Yes it does, and that's a really, really handy plugin but (once again) while being, as some would say, 'uber useful' it misses the mark by it's placement / location. I would hope that the existence of that very useful plug doesn't stop the devs from adding an inherent track delay.
You have 12 tracks (audio, midi whatever). You want to play around with the delay timing, the feel. You go load 5-6 plugins. Then you have to have them all open at once to make the adjustments in realtime.
I know it sometimes seems like I "nit-pick" on Reaper but this is the kind of thing that drives me nuts. It should be optionally right there on the TCP, built into the software, not in a plugin. How do you fully experiment with track delay in a 24 track project? Load 24 track delay plugins?
Am I nuts being the only person who finds it odd that Reaper can do all of this fantastic routing yet can't do something as basic as shift a track by a few ms +/- by itself?
Although ... having the plugin is surely better than no track delay at all so kudos to the developer of it.
End of nit pick ...
Last edited by Lawrence; 12-03-2007 at 05:13 PM.
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12-03-2007, 05:12 PM
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yeah, +/- buttons on the TCP, a value box and a settable "scale" (ms/sample) is what i need..
1-20 sample timing makes a huge difference most ot the time.
(at least for me, for eg. when layering drums..), so i'd love to inc/dec it by 1 steps - or type in the delay time.
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12-04-2007, 04:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence
this is the kind of thing that drives me nuts. It should be optionally right there on the TCP, built into the software
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Yes- I agree!
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12-04-2007, 10:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence
I would hope that the existence of that very useful plug doesn't stop the devs from adding an inherent track delay...
I know it sometimes seems like I "nit-pick" on Reaper but this is the kind of thing that drives me nuts. It should be optionally right there on the TCP, built into the software, not in a plugin. How do you fully experiment with track delay in a 24 track project? Load 24 track delay plugins?
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I wholeheartedly agree.
++1
t
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12-04-2007, 10:12 AM
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I've been doing it by typing an adjusted value in the item properties offset, but I am all for having it accessible through the mixer!
++1
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12-05-2007, 02:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence
I know it sometimes seems like I "nit-pick" on Reaper but this is the kind of thing that drives me nuts. It should be optionally right there on the TCP, built into the software, not in a plugin. How do you fully experiment with track delay in a 24 track project? Load 24 track delay plugins?
Am I nuts being the only person who finds it odd that Reaper can do all of this fantastic routing yet can't do something as basic as shift a track by a few ms +/- by itself?
End of nit pick ...
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+1
Clearly you're not the only one . And this doesn't sound like a nit-pick at all, just a prod to further improvement of a great product.
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12-08-2007, 12:59 AM
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"Nudge" is what Cakewalk calls it. I hate to say that though it would be very nice in Reaper.
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12-16-2007, 12:34 PM
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This would be great for time-aligning drum tracks - something I'm having to do today "by hand" which is a bit of a PITA.
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10-08-2010, 08:09 AM
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++1
This may be an old FR, but still as valid a request as ever.
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10-08-2010, 09:08 AM
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Another vote for this feature!
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02-05-2016, 02:12 AM
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+1
Five years gone and we still don't have it, which is somewhat of a show stopper for anyone working with orchestral strings. Orchestral strings are "always late" hence you need to apply a negative delay.
And no, bouncing to audio and doing it on the audio side is not an alternative, it's a clunky workaround. I don't want to go back to Logic
So.. PRETTY PLEASE GIVE US (NEGATIVE) TRACK DELAY!
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07-06-2016, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMickeyLauer
And no, bouncing to audio and doing it on the audio side is not an alternative, it's a clunky workaround. I don't want to go back to Logic
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You don't need to bounce the audio as such, but you do need to insert the Time Adjustment JSFX after Kontakt (or whatever VST you want to delay).
Still, it'd sure be nice if this was more cleanly integrated, particularly for adjusting MIDI events before the VST.
Last edited by tack; 07-06-2016 at 06:14 PM.
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07-07-2016, 12:51 AM
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I requested this some time ago. Still need that feature. loading plugins for every track in every project (when mixing live recordings) is a mess.
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07-07-2016, 08:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gass n Klang
I requested this some time ago. Still need that feature. loading plugins for every track in every project (when mixing live recordings) is a mess.
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I have the time adjustment plugin on my default audio track template, and have set up a parameter knob on the mixer track with the offset in milliseconds, so I don't even have to open the plugin. (Not opposed to the FR but it makes it pretty easy)
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07-08-2016, 01:21 AM
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yeah. But Cubase does this well: Yout can see the track delay in the inspector. So you don't have to open the plugin to see whats going on there.
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07-08-2016, 01:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gass n Klang
yeah. But Cubase does this well: Yout can see the track delay in the inspector. So you don't have to open the plugin to see whats going on there.
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You can also see it in REAPER Track Inspector
I call it delay, but maybe it should be named offset.
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07-08-2016, 09:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heda
You can also see it in REAPER Track Inspector
I call it delay, but maybe it should be named offset.
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So cool. Does it show up after you add JS:timeadjustment, or is your script automatically configured to adjust PDC, or is it just that all FX parameters allow faders? Or none of the above?
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07-09-2016, 12:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A Little Man and a House
So cool. Does it show up after you add JS:timeadjustment, or is your script automatically configured to adjust PDC, or is it just that all FX parameters allow faders? Or none of the above?
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All FX have their own parameters sliders, as you can see here. Only shows the ones that have been selected to show in TCP controls.
But the delay one has its own dedicated panel always there, when you drag the delay slider, it automatically adds the time adjustment jsfx if it is not in the chain. Double clicking it resets the delay by removing the jsfx. You can also adjust by 1ms with the mouse wheel.
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07-10-2016, 05:27 AM
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@heda
That's a good way to do it. Saves having unused time_adjustments everywhere cluttering up the place, before you need em. I really need to get around to donating/downloading your script, it's rad.
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11-15-2017, 07:12 PM
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Hi guys!
Can you explain a little better how to achieve this "Track offset" function?
I need it exactly for the same reason I think this thread started (11 years AGO!!!!)
I need to synchronise orchestral libraries (that are "late") with synth and rhythmic plugins that are always on time...in Logic or Cubas there's this function already present in the program, how can I do the same with Reaper?
THANKS!
:-)
All the best
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11-15-2017, 09:07 PM
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Either you get Track Inspector from above, or you use the JS MIDI Delay.
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11-15-2017, 10:53 PM
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-1 !!!
What easily can be done with a plugin (and here same is already provided in the stock distribution) should not bloat the main program.
-Michael
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11-16-2017, 05:49 AM
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Yes I managed to make it work with "JS: Time Adjustment"
...but I agree that this should be definitely incorporated in the track panel itself...It would be amazing if it was applicable to group tracks (for example "LASS Strings") as well without having to set it for every single track.
Please developers! :-)
Thanks!
-t
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