How do you use the MIDI humanizer plugin without causing overlapping issues?

[debarment]

I'm trying to use the MIDI humanizer plugin. This works great if the notes are spaced out, but if I have say two whole notes next to each other, it's 50/50 if the second whole note gets clobbered. (ie, somehow, for whatever reason, the second note simply doesn't play)

I'm looking for some sort of fix for the humanizer plugin that doesn't cause overlaps, ie, if you have two whole notes in a row, *both* whole notes should always be heard, regardless of the timing humanization amount.

I don't mind diving into the plugin code so if anyone has any ideas. Thank you!!

[jrk]

There's action
Correct overlapping notes
or even
Script: kawa_MIDI_ResolveOverLap.lua

Maybe one of those helps...

[zacki]

It's easy to prevent overlapping MIDI notes. Check Automatically correct overlapping notes in the MIDI-Editor Options Menu. And as jrk mentioned, theres the Action, in case you forgot to set the Option.

[ashcat_lt]

All of the above actions work only on midi which already exists in an item on a track. JS Humanizer is a real time “live” process. One would have to render or record the midi output first, which is of course useless in the actual live performance case. Preventing overlap in real time is not exactly trivial.

[debarment]

Originally Posted by ashcat_lt

All of the above actions work only on midi which already exists in an item on a track.

This is exactly my issue.

However, luckily I'm not using this live.

Is it possible to render a midi track with the humanizer to another midi track? Then I can fix overlaps with the script?

[debarment]

Still looking for a good solution here.

What do you suggest?

[ashcat_lt]

Sorry. As with many things in Reaper, there are a few ways to accomplish similar results, and which is best often depends on more specifics than we really have in this thread so far but also sometimes just personal workflow preference.

If the MIDI already exists as an item on a track, I kind of wonder why you’d use the JS rather than just the Humanize action in the midi editor, but...

From the Arrange windo you could right click the item and Apply Take/Track FX...(midi output). This will not put it on a new track, and will leave the JS on the track so that you would then want to bypass or remove it so that the now humanized new take doesn’t get humanized even more.

If you really want it on a new track, probably the easiest way is to duplicate the track first, then do the Apply FX, then bypass/remove the plugin, and maybe crop to active take. Or you could send from the existing track to a new track and set that new track to record Output (midi), then record while it plays through.