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Old 07-24-2018, 05:25 AM   #1
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Hey guys.


I am trying a workflow where i am constantly changing midi record mode, and i wanna see what record mode i am currently in. There is no way to see whether i am in Overdub or Replace or Input mode.

Is there a way to change the TCP track panel to show that?

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Old 07-24-2018, 06:11 AM   #2
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Yes, you'll need to make the track input device field very wide:

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Old 07-24-2018, 07:33 AM   #3
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Thanks , but where in rtconfig i tweak this ?

And how to feed it back to reaper ,new tweaked theme i mean? Just Archive it with ReaperThemeZip format or what?
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Thanks , but where in rtconfig i tweak this ?
Since you're using the default 5 theme, its pretty easy. Watch Kenny's Video to learn how the tweaks are done.

Once you're inside and fiddling, turn recinput's width up to, say, 120:
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variance     order_recinput   120  0   -4  1   0
Also, don't forget you can alias your input names if they're a bit long!
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Old 07-24-2018, 10:07 AM   #5
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Ok Thanks , i did this


Couple of questions.

Can I make a font size a bit bigger so i can clearly see MIDI rec mode?

And second question, for now i am using unpacked version of the Default5 theme.
Like this


Lets say i am done with editing and want to pack it back to a new Theme , is there a way to do this?

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Old 07-24-2018, 11:00 PM   #6
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Ok Thanks , i did this


Couple of questions.

Can I make a font size a bit bigger so i can clearly see MIDI rec mode?
Seems that the images used in your post are not visible for a reason. Beside this, I would rather diminish the font size to see more informations on a control, but well... The following command in the rtconfig.txt involved is this one :

set tcp.recinput.font [x]

x : number of the font used in the tcp.recinput control. There are eight WALTER fonts available in the Theme development/tweaker window, so, if x is 3, you know that it is WALTER font 3 that is used for this control and you can eventually change it, if needed. But strangely, this command is not present in the rtconfig.txt of the default theme. From which, the font used by default, is the Volume/pan label font, labeled as so and also changeable in the Theme development/tweaker window : remember, though, that this font is also used for other controls.


Another way to do is to add the command mentioned above which is missing, this, to be able to use a font dedicated to the tcp.recinput control : things get a little more complicated here, as we have to add this command in the right place, with the good argument. Both the WALTER font 7 and 8 are not used in this theme, so, we can add this command...

set tcp.recinput.font [7]

... right after this one (there is only one instance of it, in line #186) :

set tcp.recinput.margin [4 0 17 0]

... this without forgetting to set rightly the corresponding font (WALTER font 7) in the Theme development/Tweaker window.

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And second question, for now i am using unpacked version of the Default5 theme.
Like this


Lets say i am done with editing and want to pack it back to a new Theme , is there a way to do this?

Thanks!
The thing I would do is to rename both the folder and the .ReaperTheme file exactly the same way, in example :

Default_5.0_Edited
Default_5.0_Edited.ReaperTheme


...rezip them together and change the resulting archive extension as .ReaperThemeZip, before replacing it in the \ColorThemes subfolder of your Reaper installation.

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Old 07-25-2018, 04:13 AM   #7
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Thanks for the answer

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...rezip them together and change the resulting archive extension as .ReaperThemeZip, before replacing it in the \ColorThemes subfolder of your Reaper installation.
Ok i've tried reziping back, and its really buggy.

Step by Step
https://imgur.com/a/VNKYKhP

i've tried with compression and with Winrar. Same result.
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Okay, firstly you have to zip it as a zip! You've got archive format set as 7z, you'll want to change that.

Secondly... are you sure you need to do this? There's no performance reason to do so, so unless you want to share it with other people, I wouldn't bother.

...still want to?...

Okay dokey, to avoid future confusion, now would be a good time to learn about 'image resource path'. This is a line that sits in your .ReaperTheme file that you can edit using the Theme/development tweaker, or by text editing the .ReaperTheme file.

Rename the Default_5.0_unpacked folder to something descriptive, and then change the name in 'image resource path' to that, and save. Now zip it all up ( ZIP! ), change the zip file name to your theme name, change the extension to .ReaperThemeZip, aaaand you're done.
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Old 07-25-2018, 06:23 AM   #9
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Thanks for the answer

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Okay dokey, to avoid future confusion, now would be a good time to learn about 'image resource path'. This is a line that sits in your .ReaperTheme file that you can edit using the Theme/development tweaker, or by text editing the .ReaperTheme file.
There is no such line for some reason
https://imgur.com/a/9CMHK4e

Or maybe its this:
https://imgur.com/a/CwWLIuN




And also why i have this Classic_1 theme all of a sudden

https://imgur.com/a/Kkiqpie
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Old 07-26-2018, 03:32 AM   #10
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Thanks for the answer



There is no such line for some reason
https://imgur.com/a/9CMHK4e

Or maybe its this:
https://imgur.com/a/CwWLIuN




And also why i have this Classic_1 theme all of a sudden

https://imgur.com/a/Kkiqpie

I'll take my example again : if you rename both components of the theme and rename its extension as I was suggesting, you should get a Default_5.0_Edited.ReaperThemeZip file. Use Windows explorer commands for this, nothing else. Once setted in the \ColorThemes subfolder of your Reaper installation, load the theme, open the Theme development/Tweaker window and look at the bottom it. The Image resource path setting shows something like this :

F:\Reaper5_Portable\ColorThemes\Default_5.0_Edited.ReaperThemeZip

In the same time, if you open the Default_5.0_Edited.ReaperTheme file with a raw text editor, you'll see this :

[REAPER]
ui_img=Default_5.0_unpacked


The two, indeed, don't match... But, unless White Tie will correct me, it's not critical, as when reaper opens the theme file (the .ReaperThemeZip one) when you choose the new theme, it looks first at the bundled resource folder in it. See the Default_5.0_Edited.ReaperThemeZip name in the Image resource file setting : it's exactly the name of the theme file presently used, extension included.

So, AFAIK, you don't have to bother about what is stated in the 'ui_img' line of the ReaperTheme file : as long as you rename differently both the image folder and the .ReaperTheme file, it will work : I have used this way of working since years, when theming, and never had an issue related to this. Be sure, though, that you really load the new theme after having put it in the \ColorThemes subfolder.

And about the Classic_1.x theme, why bother ? I have it also, in my themes list...
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Old 07-26-2018, 04:54 AM   #11
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Thanks for the elaborate answer!


One more question , do i need to rezip them without compression or with?

Also i completely missed on this action
https://imgur.com/a/sk2dS3S

Thats all i need to set the image folder and save the theme. And then after that i have a choice to rezip it or not.

For now i think its better to not rezip them , because i can quickly tweak whatever i want with rtconfig file.
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Old 07-26-2018, 05:49 AM   #12
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Sometimes, I'm wondering if we are talking about the same thing...

I thought that all we were talking about is how to save eventual modifications done a theme as a new one : I'll stick to this. Read carefully again my previous posts and White Tie ones : you should NOT use any compression of any kind, and that's why I suggested you to use only the Windows explorer commands.

And, one way or another, you'll have to rezip both the resources folder and the .ReaperTheme file of a theme together to be able to test eventuel modifications done, this WITHOUT any compression...
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:11 AM   #13
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ok
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you should NOT use any compression of any kind, and that's why I suggested you to use only the Windows explorer commands.
By this you mean no winrar or 7zip
Native Windows 10 options.
https://imgur.com/a/UKWf7hj

btw when i use default Window 10 zip option as i mentioned above
the size looks like this
https://imgur.com/a/EQlcj53

When i use 7zip no compression method (Called- "Store") the size is different
https://imgur.com/a/hNkJVii

Both methods Extension is ZIP.
Windows default explorer method is using some kind of compression after all.

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Old 07-26-2018, 10:28 AM   #14
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Exactly : the native Windows option, as shown in your first and second images ; NOT what's in your third one. The size shown in your second image is nearly the same as the one I have, here.
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:50 AM   #15
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Ok got it. Thanks!
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