'implode items across tracks into takes' bug

[nofish]

https://i.imgur.com/53C32lT.gif

The item in the lower track gets only imploded until the first split occurs, after that's it's truncated.

R4.76 x32, Win 8.1 upd1 x64

Anyone can confirm ?
If not, I could also upload a small test project.

(I think the factor is trying to implode an item in another one where already splitted takes occur and these splits happen before the full length of the imploded item, as said above).

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Tracker:
http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=5488

[nofish]

bump

Any comments ?

Should I expect the item only being imploded until the first split or bug ?

[nofish]

Anyone please ?

I'm giving another example.

Initial situation:



Situations like this happen frequently here, e.g. with online collaborations I'm doing. I have two takes of something already edited and comped (splitted), than the artist decides to send me another take I'd like to implode.

Current result after after imploding:




Desired would be something like this I think (manually done):



Item gets enlarged until the beginning of the new imploded take, full length and inherits the splits of the original item.

Makes sense ?

[Tod]

Item gets enlarged until the beginning of the new imploded take, full length and inherits the splits of the original item.

Makes sense ?

Hi nofish, I never implode tracks like that but yeah, I'd say your bottom picture displays a more correct result.

[heda]

imploding to takes has several bugs. this is certainly one of them. I don't see any easy solution for this.

[serr]

Isn't that the desired effect of that feature (ie. the take recording mode that makes multiple audio streams in the same item instead of separate items)? The original edits are preserved.

Not sure. I never use this (and was baffled as to what kind of workflow this feature was aimed at exactly). I use the 'new recorded items make their own lane' option for overdubs and comping. New takes are their own item as expected and are not linked together in any weird ways for editing when you don't want them to be. You can always record new takes no matter how elaborate of a comp you already have going on and add to it.

I think the idea behind the multiple takes in a single item thing is more a live performance thing where someone would want to switch between alternate versions but always keep the same edit/loop points and trigger it with MIDI controls.

[nofish]

Thanks.

Put into tracker:
http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=5488


serr, topic is not about Reaper's recording modes but current behaviour when imploding items into takes.

btw (a bit unrelated but anyway), I also used the 'new recorded items make their own lane' very long until I finally made friends with the 'create new takes' mode. Advantage using this mode when comping is you don't have to mute items manually, just split and select takes. Much faster imo, might be worth revisiting this (only works good when all takes have the same length though, not e.g. classical music).

I also suggest having a look of this nice overview from Coachz about recording modes, takes etc.

http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...1&postcount=36