v5.65pre4 - October 27 2017

Edgemeal · 10-27-2017, 10:18 PM

v5.65pre4 - October 27 2017
+ Regions: improve edits to overlapping regions
# FX: enable category and developer listings by default in Add FX dialog (if you enabled in an earlier 5.65pre, you will need to re-enable)
# FX: fix folder menus when FX browser has not been visible [p=1903057]
# FX: fix possible crash when renaming plugin-supplied category or developer name in Add FX dialog [p=1903252]

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Dimson · 10-28-2017, 01:33 AM

Developers, pay please attention to this problem. It very much hinders when mounting the project.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....99#post1902899

EvilDragon · 10-28-2017, 01:36 AM

OK I've just sorted my nearly 400 plugins into categories, also added custom categories, and when I exited and opened Reaper again, all custom categories vanished. That's not cool :/

I see that all my assignments are in reaper-fxfolders.ini, but they are not displayed at all. Could be because I removed all my previously used FX folders, so that tied custom categories into the whole thing, so they are not visible as well?

EDIT: If I toggle visibility one of left pane folders, then they come back. So looks like .ini file is not read correctly upon startup.

EvilDragon · 10-28-2017, 03:37 AM

It depends if developers assigned categories to their plugins (which is a VST3 thing, so for VST2 plugins this doesn't apply at all). I wouldn't say it's useless.

It's still useful because then you can use FX folders for something else. Or not at all.

musicbynumbers · 10-28-2017, 03:42 AM

Speaking of the below..

+ Regions: improve edits to overlapping regions

It would be so useful to have some kind of mouse modifier that can make it so regions that are touching/next to each other can be "Dual edge edited" just like we can for items that have touching edges.

This would make a massive difference for the common task of having to adjust loads of regions.

If we didn't have to say move one region's end and then the other's start to adjust it and instead could move both at once, it halves the time needed to do this task

Thanks!

schwa · 10-28-2017, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilDragon

EDIT: If I toggle visibility one of left pane folders, then they come back. So looks like .ini file is not read correctly upon startup.

Right, sorry. Fixing!

EvilDragon · 10-28-2017, 03:52 AM

No prob, glad it's probably an easy fix

Bri1 · 10-28-2017, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schwa

Right, sorry. Fixing!

Please give back of own hand a slap- this must never happen,ever ever again. 👽

ovnis · 10-28-2017, 06:13 AM

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+ Regions: improve edits to overlapping regions

You're great ! Perfect behaviour !

Do you think it could be a good idea ?

Lots of time, after moving/copy a region, we have to move a part of somes items because the part of item which is not under the region is not moved or copied.

If item snap cursor is outside the region area, the part of item which is not under the region is not moved or copied (actual behaviour) :

If snap cursor is inside the region area, the part of item which is not under the region is moved or copied :

amagalma · 10-28-2017, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

Speaking of the below..

+ Regions: improve edits to overlapping regions

It would be so useful to have some kind of mouse modifier that can make it so regions that are touching/next to each other can be "Dual edge edited" just like we can for items that have touching edges.

This would make a massive difference for the common task of having to adjust loads of regions.

If we didn't have to say move one region's end and then the other's start to adjust it and instead could move both at once, it halves the time needed to do this task

Thanks!

Yes, please! It would be great if we had the same behavior as items.

EvilDragon · 10-28-2017, 07:36 AM

BTW devs. There's a regression back from v5.50c:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....59#post1903759

ovnis · 10-28-2017, 08:27 AM

In this exemple :

When you grab a region and put your mouse cursor at the right of a region cursor, the handled region goes under the region.

When you grab a region and put your mouse cursor at the left of a region cursor, the handled region goes to the left of the region.

I think it's pretty diffcult to handle because we have to be very accurate (so, the workflow is slowed).

Is it possible to add an option inside the mouse modifierq to be able to place a region under an another region ?

(and why not add more option like to be able to select multiple regions or to be able to move regions accross the lines)

Mavriq · 10-28-2017, 11:38 AM

Can't edit smart folders with right click. Screenshot attached.

schwa · 10-28-2017, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gvanbrunt

Can't edit smart folders with right click. Screenshot attached.

The menu item just got renamed, to "rename folder", since that's what it does for non-smart folders. We can change it back though.

IXix · 10-28-2017, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

It would be so useful to have some kind of mouse modifier that can make it so regions that are touching/next to each other can be "Dual edge edited" just like we can for items that have touching edges.

Oh golly yes!

FnA · 10-28-2017, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimson

Developers, pay please attention to this problem. It very much hinders when mounting the project.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....99#post1902899

Yeah, that causes unnecessary repair work. Notice he says "copying" not "moving." You might make a region just to copy a section and then you may even want to delete the original region you made for that purpose. Too bad if you have MIDI notes crossing the boundaries. "Allow trim..." needs to be on if you are moving past a tempo change. https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=182196

Thalamus · 10-29-2017, 12:11 AM

Can I somehow remove these new entries on the right-click add fx dropdown?

I have all my fx sorted already and don't really need these new entries.

Also, i managed to delete my reaper-fxfolders.ini file - I am not noticing and problems or change in Reaper. What have I done?

cheers
Thal

Mavriq · 10-29-2017, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by schwa

The menu item just got renamed, to "rename folder", since that's what it does for non-smart folders. We can change it back though.

That might be a good idea. I'm an IT Manager so I like to think I'm somewhat computer literate.

That said it wasn't intuitive enough for me to figure out and Edit is a more accurate description for what the function is. Or you could make the context menu aware of what "type" of folder you are clicking on and having Edit or Rename appear....

EvilDragon · 10-29-2017, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gvanbrunt

Or you could make the context menu aware of what "type" of folder you are clicking on and having Edit or Rename appear....

This is the best solution.

ThrashJazzAssassin · 10-30-2017, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

BTW devs. There's a regression back from v5.50c:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....59#post1903759

Thanks for giving this attention ED