ReaVolution for FLUX:: Spat Revolution

JLP · 02-26-2021, 11:26 AM

Hello to the whole REAPER community !

I am Jean-Loup Pecquais, a sound engineer from France, user of REAPER and part of the FLUX:: team. You may known FLUX:: from their plug-ins or from their flagship software : FLUX:: Analyser and Spat Revolution.

During 2020, I begin to work on a new project : ReaVolution. The whole idea of this was to offer an easy approach to immersive workflow, using both Spat Revolution and REAPER.
If you don't know Spat Revolution, this is, in two words, a powerful mixing engine allowing to do object-based mixing with perceptive parameters. When I presented this project to the FLUX:: team, they accepted to support it.

ReaVolution comes with many scripts and two JSFXs. Here is a short showcase of some of them :

The audio stream JSFX

This little plugin simply allow to qualify the type of audio stream carried by a track. This information is then used by our script that send and receive signals from Spat Revolution. This is especially useful as REAPER only provided tracks with even number of channels.

The X-OR monitor JSFX

This other little plug-in was designed to do the job of a monitoring section. It has two parameters : does the audio pass through and what is the ID of the group. Only one track of one group can be active at a time. Now you can easily build a monitoring section using the REAPER console.

Easy interfacing with Spat Revolution
If you use Spat Revolution in your workflow, this one is a no-brainer. Thanks to the audio stream JSFX, we can really quickly send audio to Spat and also receive audio from it. All is automated, and you have nothing more to do than running a couple of script.

Multichannel busses using folder
There already is several great scripts to allow a REAPER user to quickly create a new folder for a selection of track. But I didn't found one that handle multichannel routing. This one should do the trick.

A proposition of editing workflow
We know that many of us choose REAPER because it is highly customizable. It may sound silly to offer a proposition of editing workflow, but we did it to encourage people coming from other DAW to use REAPER when working with an immersive audio project.
If you are an experienced REAPER user, you may find this section less useful. If you are new to it, it may save you a great amount of time.
Here is an example about how to move objects in ReaVolution. Notice how the time selection is automatically cleared.

If you wish to read more detail, here is the online documentation : https://doc.flux.audio/#/en_US/spat_...ty_ReaVolution

FLUX:: has also created a nice land page for this project : https://www.flux.audio/project/reavo...at-revolution/

How to download ReaVolution ?
We offer two solution to download ReaVolution. The first one is to use our center to install a full setup version of Reaper through our Center. It is like a portable version of REAPER, but without the REAPER binary inside. You just have to add it to complete the installation process. This is the quickest way to have a running installation of ReaVolution.
Here is the download page of our center : https://www.flux.audio/download

We have installation tutorial for both Windows and macOS :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPp9U1vJoHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knwj0S1PHlU

If you do not wish to get all the feature of ReaVolution, or you don't want to use the center, we have a Git repository where all the source files are accessible (scripts + JSFX), with a basic documentation about the different dependency between the various scripts and JSFX. Here is a link to our Git repository : https://github.com/FLUX-SE/ReaVolution

We hope everybody will find some useful script in this package!

vitalker · 02-26-2021, 01:21 PM

Hello, Jean-Loup. Nice job! It would be great if these gifs will be bigger. Another thins is version 6.24 will have razor edit, which is area selection. This feature may introduce a lot of interesting solutions to your project.

Vagelis · 02-26-2021, 01:27 PM

WOW you guys are some of the best out there, quality stuff!!

I'm so happy to see you here working also with Reaper and making scripts!

Big thank you and respect!

JLP · 02-26-2021, 02:43 PM

Thank you for your feedback and replies !

Vitalker, I’m desperate to find time to implement the razor edit in my scripts! I’ve tested it with the latest RC version of REAPER and it is amazing!
I’ll try to do a better job with the gif. I’m afraid it’s the site that is hosting them that scale them down... Do you have a good site for image hosting ?

Vagelis, thank you very much for your kind words

let us know how you find this package !

vitalker · 02-26-2021, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLP

Vitalker, I’m desperate to find time to implement the razor edit in my scripts! I’ve tested it with the latest RC version of REAPER and it is amazing!
Do you have a good site for image hosting ?

I think you can get a support on the forum. People here would love to help you.

https://imgur.com/ is pretty good.

Gass n Klang · 02-26-2021, 04:26 PM

following. looks interesting, though if spat is a massive invest (even for a professional, earning money in audio production)

BartR · 02-26-2021, 05:38 PM

GREAT!!!!!

vitalker · 02-27-2021, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BartR

GREAT!!!!!

Please don't quote the whole message.

audiotect · 02-27-2021, 04:11 AM

Hello
Been a Spat Revolution user since it came out. Using it mainly with Reaper. Lots of issues, lot of help from the flux team, lots of work done. Latest update seems to solve a lot of issues, but this is (Rearevolution) could be the gift I´ve been waiting for :-) thanks.

I´m about to enter test mode for this, but in the very beginning I get a message I don´t like - could be easily solved though - but want to ask before doing anything.

As I understand (from video´s) I install a version of reaper in the Reavolution folder.
When opening my other reaper app everything is ok - no error messages
but when opening the Reavolution version of reaper I get the attached message.
I guess it has nothing to do with Reavolution working or not, but what to..?

Best regards
Søren Bendixen

JLP · 02-27-2021, 04:52 AM

Hello audiotect,
ReaVolution does not come with the latest version of the SWS extension installed. I simply did not test it yet with ReaVolution. It will be part of the next update. From what I see in your error message, it should not interfer with how ReaVolution works, as it choose to include the lib from the ReaVolution package.
Let me know how it turns out !

BartR, thank you for your enthusiasm

!

audiotect · 02-27-2021, 05:37 AM

Hi JLP
Cool. Thanks for reply
I´ll test sometime very soon. Have af few Reaper/Spat R project in the making.
Will report back here

Best
Søren/Audiotect

BartR · 02-27-2021, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitalker

Please don't quote the whole message.

Sorry. I did remove the quote

loji · 03-01-2021, 09:39 AM

Found a bug or two I think ....

The "Ripple Edit" mode button doesn't seem to work onc eyou add a track.

ie: with no tracks, an empty arrange view ... the button toggles through the ripple modes as expected . .

But if I add a track, it no longer does so. The Key commands to enable the ripple modes work, but I can't use the button...

Issue #2 : the item gain changes (the lua script) only affect the first part of an item...

If I make an edit in the middle of an item .. the key commands to mousewheel the item gain only effect the first part of the item, even though that isn't what is selected (the edited portion is selected) ..

Great work here!

JLP · 03-03-2021, 05:53 AM

Hello loji,

For now, this is an expected behavior of ReaVolution. It is documented here : https://doc.flux.audio/#/en_US/spat_...ty_ReaVolution . But I will, hopefully, do another pass of work on the editing workflow by integrating the new Razor edit feature. There will be some improvement in the futur.

This bug has already be found... You are all great beta testers haha ! It's on my todo list for the next patch !

Thank you for your feedback and your inputs !

02-26-2021, 11:26 AM	#1
JLP Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 31	ReaVolution for FLUX:: Spat Revolution Hello to the whole REAPER community ! I am Jean-Loup Pecquais, a sound engineer from France, user of REAPER and part of the FLUX:: team. You may known FLUX:: from their plug-ins or from their flagship software : FLUX:: Analyser and Spat Revolution. During 2020, I begin to work on a new project : ReaVolution. The whole idea of this was to offer an easy approach to immersive workflow, using both Spat Revolution and REAPER. If you don't know Spat Revolution, this is, in two words, a powerful mixing engine allowing to do object-based mixing with perceptive parameters. When I presented this project to the FLUX:: team, they accepted to support it. ReaVolution comes with many scripts and two JSFXs. Here is a short showcase of some of them : The audio stream JSFX This little plugin simply allow to qualify the type of audio stream carried by a track. This information is then used by our script that send and receive signals from Spat Revolution. This is especially useful as REAPER only provided tracks with even number of channels. The X-OR monitor JSFX This other little plug-in was designed to do the job of a monitoring section. It has two parameters : does the audio pass through and what is the ID of the group. Only one track of one group can be active at a time. Now you can easily build a monitoring section using the REAPER console. Easy interfacing with Spat Revolution If you use Spat Revolution in your workflow, this one is a no-brainer. Thanks to the audio stream JSFX, we can really quickly send audio to Spat and also receive audio from it. All is automated, and you have nothing more to do than running a couple of script. Multichannel busses using folder There already is several great scripts to allow a REAPER user to quickly create a new folder for a selection of track. But I didn't found one that handle multichannel routing. This one should do the trick. A proposition of editing workflow We know that many of us choose REAPER because it is highly customizable. It may sound silly to offer a proposition of editing workflow, but we did it to encourage people coming from other DAW to use REAPER when working with an immersive audio project. If you are an experienced REAPER user, you may find this section less useful. If you are new to it, it may save you a great amount of time. Here is an example about how to move objects in ReaVolution. Notice how the time selection is automatically cleared. If you wish to read more detail, here is the online documentation : https://doc.flux.audio/#/en_US/spat_...ty_ReaVolution FLUX:: has also created a nice land page for this project : https://www.flux.audio/project/reavo...at-revolution/ How to download ReaVolution ? We offer two solution to download ReaVolution. The first one is to use our center to install a full setup version of Reaper through our Center. It is like a portable version of REAPER, but without the REAPER binary inside. You just have to add it to complete the installation process. This is the quickest way to have a running installation of ReaVolution. Here is the download page of our center : https://www.flux.audio/download We have installation tutorial for both Windows and macOS : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPp9U1vJoHg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knwj0S1PHlU If you do not wish to get all the feature of ReaVolution, or you don't want to use the center, we have a Git repository where all the source files are accessible (scripts + JSFX), with a basic documentation about the different dependency between the various scripts and JSFX. Here is a link to our Git repository : https://github.com/FLUX-SE/ReaVolution We hope everybody will find some useful script in this package!

02-26-2021, 04:26 PM	#6
Gass n Klang Human being with feelings Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Cologne Posts: 847	following. looks interesting, though if spat is a massive invest (even for a professional, earning money in audio production) __________________ https://gassnklang.de

02-26-2021, 05:38 PM	#7
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02-26-2021, 01:21 PM	#2
vitalker Human being with feelings Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 7,499	Hello, Jean-Loup. Nice job! It would be great if these gifs will be bigger. Another thins is version 6.24 will have razor edit, which is area selection. This feature may introduce a lot of interesting solutions to your project. __________________ SoundCloud►FR: True Non-destructive GLUE►All the REAPER names

02-26-2021, 01:27 PM	#3
Vagelis Human being with feelings Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Larisa, Greece Posts: 1,278	WOW you guys are some of the best out there, quality stuff!! I'm so happy to see you here working also with Reaper and making scripts! Big thank you and respect!

02-26-2021, 02:43 PM	#4
JLP Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 31	Thank you for your feedback and replies ! Vitalker, I’m desperate to find time to implement the razor edit in my scripts! I’ve tested it with the latest RC version of REAPER and it is amazing! I’ll try to do a better job with the gif. I’m afraid it’s the site that is hosting them that scale them down... Do you have a good site for image hosting ? Vagelis, thank you very much for your kind words let us know how you find this package !

02-27-2021, 04:52 AM	#10
JLP Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 31	Hello audiotect, ReaVolution does not come with the latest version of the SWS extension installed. I simply did not test it yet with ReaVolution. It will be part of the next update. From what I see in your error message, it should not interfer with how ReaVolution works, as it choose to include the lib from the ReaVolution package. Let me know how it turns out ! BartR, thank you for your enthusiasm !

02-27-2021, 05:37 AM	#11
audiotect Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Denmark Posts: 83	Hi JLP Cool. Thanks for reply I´ll test sometime very soon. Have af few Reaper/Spat R project in the making. Will report back here Best Søren/Audiotect

03-01-2021, 09:39 AM	#13
loji Human being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 20	Found a bug or two I think .... The "Ripple Edit" mode button doesn't seem to work onc eyou add a track. ie: with no tracks, an empty arrange view ... the button toggles through the ripple modes as expected . . But if I add a track, it no longer does so. The Key commands to enable the ripple modes work, but I can't use the button... Issue #2 : the item gain changes (the lua script) only affect the first part of an item... If I make an edit in the middle of an item .. the key commands to mousewheel the item gain only effect the first part of the item, even though that isn't what is selected (the edited portion is selected) .. Great work here!

03-03-2021, 05:53 AM	#14
JLP Human being with feelings Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 31	Hello loji, For now, this is an expected behavior of ReaVolution. It is documented here : https://doc.flux.audio/#/en_US/spat_...ty_ReaVolution . But I will, hopefully, do another pass of work on the editing workflow by integrating the new Razor edit feature. There will be some improvement in the futur. This bug has already be found... You are all great beta testers haha ! It's on my todo list for the next patch ! Thank you for your feedback and your inputs !