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Just want to get a handle on whom we need to support on this.

CSI now requires Catalina or later on Mac.

I'd like to do the same for EuCon support.

Also, most everyone I see here runs Mac, anyone need EuCon support on Windows ?
All windows 10 here all updates and running fine
Not everyone uses a mac I've been on Windows since 7 with Audio
Moved up to 10 with my new DAW all good and
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First of all hello everyone, I'm new here
I was googling around for an alternatives to Logic/ProTools and searching for Reaper's eucon compatibility when I fallen into this interesting thread



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1 x Avid Artist Control
2 x Avid Artist Mix
1 x Avid Artist Transport

These are all battle worn and are all discontinued.

Anyone interested in them, especially in Canada ?

Not looking for anything other than shipping, otherwise it's off to the electronics recycle depot

Will likely be getting an S1 as a hardware replacement, although they are very pricey in Canada -- $1700 CDN, and will also use the Avid Control app, of course
Geoff, probably too late but just in case, is the offer still valid?

I have three artisti mix and one transport but two of them don't work anymore for power supply issues or internal electronic failure.. still have to check. It might be wonderful to have yours for spares parts (all but the artist control).
I'd pay more than just the shipping.

I live in Balearic Islands..
Let me know by PM if still available.

Thank you and keep up the good work. As I'll be back in the studio (ten days) I'll test it with my surviving units and let you know here in the forum. Downloaded Reaper for evaluation right now.
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I was googling around for an alternatives to Logic/ProTools and searching for Reaper's eucon compatibility when I fallen into this interesting thread





Geoff, probably too late but just in case, is the offer still valid?

I have three artisti mix and one transport but two of them don't work anymore for power supply issues or internal electronic failure.. still have to check. It might be wonderful to have yours for spares parts (all but the artist control).
I'd pay more than just the shipping.

I live in Balearic Islands..
Let me know by PM if still available.

Thank you and keep up the good work. As I'll be back in the studio (ten days) I'll test it with my surviving units and let you know here in the forum. Downloaded Reaper for evaluation right now.
Thanks for the interest.

I'm currently working on upgrading the EuCon support, it will be better shortly, so if you do test, know that things will improve quite a bit soon

As far as available, not sure where things stand right now, the Control is out being tested by a user, and the Mixes and Transport are at a local music store, will have to check status.
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Perfect, thank you for your kind reply.

I'm curious to test compatibility even if I'm stuck to high Sierra in the studio (iMac 2010). Still deciding whether stay on apple or move to windows (last pc I used had DOS installed hehe) that's why I also want to test reaper..
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Perfect, thank you for your kind reply.

I'm curious to test compatibility even if I'm stuck to high Sierra in the studio (iMac 2010). Still deciding whether stay on apple or move to windows (last pc I used had DOS installed hehe) that's why I also want to test reaper..
Just to let you know, the new version will require Catalina or later.

The current version will work with High Sierra.
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Thanx, I read it in a previous post. I also have a powerbook pro but still with Mojave; I might upgrade it.
I'll try both versions anyway and let's see what happens.
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All windows 10 here all updated and running fine
Not everyone uses a mac I've been on Windows since 7 with Audio
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Hope your doing well
Any ETA on a new updated Eucon for windows?
Actually, I have been using windows for over 25 years years
Some issues but from reading this thread not anywhere as many problems as Mac users
When I worked in Pro Studios for 40 years near the end it was all G5s and Pro Tools HD
Don't understand why Apple has to make each new OS upgrade really a hardware upgrade and so many issues I know I was there and had to make them all work Daily
But no worries to each their own. Hope to see a new Windows Eucon soon
I have been working on programming the softkeys to the Reaper Menus but have some issues with programming a page move. Anyone have a eucon programming manual sure would help.
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Hope your doing well
Any ETA on a new updated Eucon for windows?
Actually, I have been using windows for over 25 years years
Some issues but from reading this thread not anywhere as many problems as Mac users
When I worked in Pro Studios for 40 years near the end it was all G5s and Pro Tools HD
Don't understand why Apple has to make each new OS upgrade really a hardware upgrade and so many issues I know I was there and had to make them all work Daily
But no worries to each their own. Hope to see a new Windows Eucon soon
I have been working on programming the softkeys to the Reaper Menus but have some issues with programming a page move. Anyone have a eucon programming manual sure would help.
Keep up the good work
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Got held up with a health issue, back at it now.

Will have something very preliminary soon, a week or two at most.
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Got held up with a health issue, back at it now.

Will have something very preliminary soon, a week or two at most.
Sounds Great Geoff
I have noticed one thing you may want to look into
I boot my workstation in the morning and then Reaper
and al is fine with Eucon but if I leave it alone cause of something I have to deal with outside or phone. I may come back a few hours later
and no Eucon control and all the surfaces are not connected to Reaper anymore
and the App window on the taskbar shows no Eucon at all so I have to reboot and all is well as long as I am working but if I leave it alone with reaper open Eucon goes away. Been rebooting which solves the problem but it will return if I leave it sitting there for a period of time. very strange I Just want to let you know what I have found
with the last version.
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Sounds Great Geoff
I have noticed one thing you may want to look into
I boot my workstation in the morning and then Reaper
and al is fine with Eucon but if I leave it alone cause of something I have to deal with outside or phone. I may come back a few hours later
and no Eucon control and all the surfaces are not connected to Reaper anymore
and the App window on the taskbar shows no Eucon at all so I have to reboot and all is well as long as I am working but if I leave it alone with reaper open Eucon goes away. Been rebooting which solves the problem but it will return if I leave it sitting there for a period of time. very strange I Just want to let you know what I have found
with the last version.
Hope you feel better
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Thanks, you mean EuControl itself ?

I have the same situation on my Mac, if I leave it alone for a long time, and then login, it may be gone.

If that is what you mean, it is totally outside of Reaper and the EuCon support project I work on.

It is an Avid/EuControl issue, at least I think that is what it is, unless I'm missing something
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Thanks, you mean EuControl itself ?

I have the same situation on my Mac, if I leave it alone for a long time, and then login, it may be gone.

If that is what you mean, it is totally outside of Reaper and the EuCon support project I work on.

It is an Avid/EuControl issue, at least I think that is what it is, unless I'm missing something
Yes Geoff that is exactly what I mean Maybe a later version of EuControl will fix this
I guess we will have to see with the new build that will support the latest Eucontrol
I guess we will both find out
I bet it has to do with the latest Eucontrol software that caused Reaper so many problems This did not use to happen so we shall see
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Yes Geoff that is exactly what I mean Maybe a later version of EuControl will fix this
I guess we will have to see with the new build that will support the latest Eucontrol
I guess we will both find out
I bet it has to do with the latest Eucontrol software that caused Reaper so many problems This did not use to happen so we shall see
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Hi Geoff
I have an update on Eucontrol disappearing issue
I booted up my workstation this morning at about 8 am. and left it all on but not playing back till now at 10 PM and all is still working with Eucontrol as it should be
I checked a couple of times during the day to see if I still had control and every time it all worked. the funny thing is I just checked it and played back a song from start to finish with full eucontrol no issues and had full control very strange. First time in a few weeks that this has been the case. Thinking back eucontrol failure only happened when I left the system overnight. I think the latest eucontrol that caused all the issues when avid released it. Which you are working on integrating with your newest Reaper Eucontrol interface may solve this issue for good. I hope so, if you need a tester on windows 10 to check out the new reaper eucontrol with the latest Avid Eucontrol software I would be glad to test it out for you.
I just wanted to give you an update. Can't wait so we can use the latest Avid software.
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Geoff, let me know if you need someone to test. I am using S3, Avid Control and Artist Transport. Latest EuControl Working great (atm) with ProTools.
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Sorry for all the delays, have a bit of a fire to put out over in CSI land, haven't forgotten about you folks, I shall return...
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AVID's servers are FUBAR could someone Put up the latest Eucontrol so I can download it for my Artist Series Sufaces
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AVID's servers are FUBAR could someone Put up the latest Eucontrol so I can download it for my Artist Series Surfaces
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Nevermind AVID fixed their servers
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HI Jeff
I was finally able to get into my AVID account and downloaded the latest version
wanted to check with you before I install it to see if it is compatible
Here's the info
EUCON Workstation Unified Install 22.4 (Win)
Download File Size:130601368
MD5 Checksum:bb827eb9a5f2fa79dfe1684b375b36da
If Reaper is not ready for it No problem I can wait till it is
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I was finally able to get into my AVID account and downloaded the latest version
wanted to check with you before I install it to see if it is compatible
Here's the info
EUCON Workstation Unified Install 22.4 (Win)
Download File Size:130601368
MD5 Checksum:bb827eb9a5f2fa79dfe1684b375b36da
If Reaper is not ready for it No problem I can wait till it is
Thanks again
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I'm running 2022.4.0.78 here, but I'm on the version I'm working on now, don't know if it will work with the one in the stash.
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I'm running 2022.4.0.78 here, but I'm on the version I'm working on now, don't know if it will work with the one in the stash.
So is that the version I just downloaded? or is it an earlier version?
I double-check at my end as well

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So is that the version I just downloaded? or is it an earlier version?
I double-check at my end as well

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This is AVIDS latest I just see 22.4 Will that work with the existing software
you have written or do I need to wait for the latest from you
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Now I understand Geoff your using the latest so you can work on the latest Reaper
Eucontrol software. I'll wait till you get finished and then install 22.4
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Hi Geoff
I have some interesting news about Eucontrol disappearing
Since the last update of Reaper, I have not experienced this problem
Very Interesting and I have been leaving reaper open overnight and pressing play when I wake up and it plays just fine and all the fader are where they should be
So since the latest Reaper update, it seems that this issue has gone away
I've done this many times since the last update and that issue has seemed to be fixed
and I hope it stays that way. Good luck with the new Eucontrol interface in Reaper that you are working on.
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I have some interesting news about Eucontrol disappearing
Since the last update of Reaper, I have not experienced this problem
Very Interesting and I have been leaving reaper open overnight and pressing play when I wake up and it plays just fine and all the fader are where they should be
So since the latest Reaper update, it seems that this issue has gone away
I've done this many times since the last update and that issue has seemed to be fixed
and I hope it stays that way. Good luck with the new Eucontrol interface in Reaper that you are working on.
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Interesting, what version of Reaper and what version of EuControl are you using ?
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Hi Geoff
Sorry for the delay but here is the info you requested
Reaper Version 6.63
Eucontrol Version 2021.6.1.7
I hope this sheds some light on this issue
and is of great help.
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Hi Geoff I have noticed that there is a lag between when Reaper finishes booting and when Eucontrol moves the fader to their position and then another lag before the track names show up on the control surface.
Is this normal or is there a setting to shorten this time
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Hi Geoff I have noticed that there is a lag between when Reaper finishes booting and when Eucontrol moves the fader to their position and then another lag before the track names show up on the control surface.
Is this normal or is there a setting to shorten this time
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This is one of the areas I'm working on for the new version.

There will always be a bit of a lag, but working to reduce it as much as possible.
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Thanks, Geoff
Good Luck with everything
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New build is up.

EuCon Exp.zip

VERY PRELIMINARY !!

Requires Catalina or later on Mac (supports native Intel/M1/ARM) and 64 bit Windows.

This is just a shakedown cruise to test that the new approach works.

You should see much improved load times, project switch times, and Track addition/deletion times.

The current functionality includes:
Faders
Pan
Select
RecArm
Mute
Solo

That's it.

Obviously we need to add Transport.

After that, I'm open to whatever you folks want next with regard to features, except FX mapping, that will be last.

So, please try this out and ensure it works on your system and report the performance improvements you see, if any.
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Hi Geoff,

Just tried the new version on Windows 10 64bit.

I realize this is preliminary but here's a few notes...

On Reaper boot, it takes about 3 seconds for faders to engage and another 5 seconds for the display to engage (track names etc).

Works very fast when switching to Reaper with Reaper running.

After adding a new track there seems to be a full reset. All volume sliders quickly go to zero and back to the correct position. It then takes about 5 seconds for the display to update.

After renaming tracks they only change on the Artist Mix after adding a new track and the above-mentioned reset.

All fader movements, pans, selection, rec arm, mute, solo, are all good and fast.

Thanks much for your work on this.

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Hi Geoff,

Just tried the new version on Windows 10 64bit.

I realize this is preliminary but here's a few notes...

On Reaper boot, it takes about 3 seconds for faders to engage and another 5 seconds for the display to engage (track names etc).

Works very fast when switching to Reaper with Reaper running.

After adding a new track there seems to be a full reset. All volume sliders quickly go to zero and back to the correct position. It then takes about 5 seconds for the display to update.

After renaming tracks they only change on the Artist Mix after adding a new track and the above-mentioned reset.

All fader movements, pans, selection, rec arm, mute, solo, are all good and fast.

Thanks much for your work on this.

Cheers, Jacob
Thanks for testing !!

Yes, that's about as good as we are going to get, performance wise.

The Track rename looks like a bug, will investigate.

What surface(s) are you testing on ?
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Testing on an Avid Artist Control and Artist Mix that I got from this awesome Canadian

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Is the reset after adding a track or tracks expected?

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Is the reset after adding a track or tracks expected?

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Yup, it's all due to the EuCon software layer (EuControl) that sits in between the surface(s) and Reaper.

It needs to rebuild with the new Track count.

In the past we tried various hacks to improve things, but they had their own issues.

This new version's performance is a lot better than it was before on previous versions
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Glad to see you back in the eucon saddle Geoff. Load time on large projects definitely seems, better than it's been in the past. The full reset when adding and deleting tracks is kind of bummer, but not that big a deal and still happens relatively quickly compared to older versions.

I'm seeing the same track name bug as Jacob, where track names don't refresh until the surface resets with track add/delete.

Switching project tabs is not working for me. Eucon seems to only want to recognize one project tab. When I switch tabs, the displays go blank and the new project never loads. If I then switch back to the original tab, that original project reloads in eucon, but I can never get any other project tabs to load.

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Faders
Pan
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Mute
Solo

That's it.
This stuff all works for the most part, with the notable exception being that writing automation with the faders/knobs is broken. The fader does not seem to be recognizing touch which results in our friend the jagged envelope.


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Obviously we need to add Transport.

After that, I'm open to whatever you folks want next with regard to features, except FX mapping, that will be last.
I know you're still working on making sure basic performance is solid, but the stuff I'd personally love to see next in order of importance would be
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  • Automation Writing
  • Automation Modes
  • Assigning Reaper Actions to Softkeys
  • Hide/Show Tracks based on MCP visibility
  • Saving layouts with Reaper Projects
  • Track Colors
  • Meters
  • VCA/Folder Spill

Lots of other stuff too, but I'll save the smaller stuff for later.
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Glad to see you back in the eucon saddle Geoff. Load time on large projects definitely seems, better than it's been in the past. The full reset when adding and deleting tracks is kind of bummer, but not that big a deal and still happens relatively quickly compared to older versions.

I'm seeing the same track name bug as Jacob, where track names don't refresh until the surface resets with track add/delete.

Switching project tabs is not working for me. Eucon seems to only want to recognize one project tab. When I switch tabs, the displays go blank and the new project never loads. If I then switch back to the original tab, that original project reloads in eucon, but I can never get any other project tabs to load.



This stuff all works for the most part, with the notable exception being that writing automation with the faders/knobs is broken. The fader does not seem to be recognizing touch which results in our friend the jagged envelope.




I know you're still working on making sure basic performance is solid, but the stuff I'd personally love to see next in order of importance would be
  • Sends
  • Automation Writing
  • Automation Modes
  • Assigning Reaper Actions to Softkeys
  • Hide/Show Tracks based on MCP visibility
  • Saving layouts with Reaper Projects
  • Track Colors
  • Meters
  • VCA/Folder Spill

Lots of other stuff too, but I'll save the smaller stuff for later.
Thanks for testing !

Yes, Track name bug.

Haven't implemented Touch yet, jaggies should vanish once I do that.

As far as project tabs, forgot to mention that isn't working, don't seem to get the notifications that I recall from Reaper of a tab switch, I'll have to do a bit more research.

Loading a project from Reaper with another open one should work though.

I like your feature priority order, let's go with that for now.

We've uncovered some anomalous behaviour in CSI in Hide/Show Tracks based on MCP visibility, will have to see if that is an issue here.

All other features look achievable.
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Old 07-23-2022, 02:31 AM   #436
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New build is up.

EuCon Exp.zip

VERY PRELIMINARY !!

Requires Catalina or later on Mac (supports native Intel/M1/ARM) and 64 bit Windows.

This is just a shakedown cruise to test that the new approach works.

You should see much improved load times, project switch times, and Track addition/deletion times.

The current functionality includes:
Faders
Pan
Select
RecArm
Mute
Solo

That's it.

Obviously we need to add Transport.

After that, I'm open to whatever you folks want next with regard to features, except FX mapping, that will be last.

So, please try this out and ensure it works on your system and report the performance improvements you see, if any.
Geoff, we need to have the updated CSI as well as the preliminary EuControl installed as well as the latest Eucontol from Avid before this will work
I have gotten used to the meters on each channel and being able to control the transport that is on my Artist control surface working is this the transport you are talking about or is it the additional Avid Artist transport that is a separate module with the Artist Series.
I don't want to do all this and only have half of the things working
This is the first time I have been back in my Studio I have been dealing with Medicare on a daily basis with Medicare I got everything paid for but with Medicare, I am having to pay for part B out of my SS check so I am Broke down and Busted and dealing with this has taken up all my time. So I just want to be clear on the process before I dig in and change things
Thanks
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Geoff, we need to have the updated CSI as well as the preliminary EuControl installed as well as the latest Eucontol from Avid before this will work
I have gotten used to the meters on each channel and being able to control the transport that is on my Artist control surface working is this the transport you are talking about or is it the additional Avid Artist transport that is a separate module with the Artist Series.
I don't want to do all this and only have half of the things working
This is the first time I have been back in my Studio I have been dealing with Medicare on a daily basis with Medicare I got everything paid for but with Medicare, I am having to pay for part B out of my SS check so I am Broke down and Busted and dealing with this has taken up all my time. So I just want to be clear on the process before I dig in and change things
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Perry
Sorry to hear about your health issues, hope your are feeling better.

Just went through some myself, so I can definitely relate.

Unless you are using non Avid surfaces, you don't need CSI at all, CSI and EuCon are now completely separate projects.

You can remove CSI in preferences and delete the CSI folder from the Reaper resource path and the reaper_csurf_integrator dll/dylib from the Reaper resource path, UserPlugins folder.



You say you don't want to do all of this and have things half working, so you might want to delay this until EuCon is more fully featured -- these are early days and we are building the feature set slowly and carefully.

Your choice.

As far as Transport, I mean any surface that supports Transport functions, that's how Avid EuControl works.


As far as EuControl, I'm running 2022.4.0.78 here, I think it will run with earlier versions, not sure how far back.

Then you need to download EuCon Exp.zip from here:

https://stash.reaper.fm/v/42522/EuCon%20Exp.zip

and place either the dll(Windows) or dylib(Mac) in the usual location - Reaper resource path - UserPlugins folder. You need 64 bit (Windows) or Catalina or later (Mac).

Then add EuCon in preferences.
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Perfect, thank you for your kind reply.

I'm curious to test compatibility even if I'm stuck to high Sierra in the studio (iMac 2010). Still deciding whether stay on apple or move to windows (last pc I used had DOS installed hehe) that's why I also want to test reaper..
Just to let you know, they were recently sold here in Canada.
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New build is up.

EuCon Exp.zip

Track rename now works.

Basic Transport functions implemented, please let me know if there is anything missing.

Took a shot at Touch for Track Volume, flying blind as the iPad doesn't seem to generate Touch messages, or the code doesn't work.

Those with physical surfaces, please let me know if the jaggies are gone.
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New build is up.

EuCon Exp.zip

Track rename now works.

Basic Transport functions implemented, please let me know if there is anything missing.

Took a shot at Touch for Track Volume, flying blind as the iPad doesn't seem to generate Touch messages, or the code doesn't work.

Those with physical surfaces, please let me know if the jaggies are gone.
Hi Geoff I think I will wait a bit before I take the plunge with the new
Eucontol and how it interfaces with Reaper I'm still working on a mix
I do have s few ssugestiond
1. When Reaper is in Stop could we please have it light up the stop button in Reaper I have attached a screen clip of the stop button I am talking about
2. Can we get to put in the Master fader since CSI and Eucontrol are now separated it would be nice if you could re-assign it by Holding down the on key on the control surface that way one could assign the master fader to any open fader ao
The mas could be assigned to any open fader Which would really improve my workflow grouping the master to another track fader does not work for me. It does assign it
but I find that a bit awkward. I'm still working on the softkeys to coincide with the menus in Reaper.
Well, that's all I can think of for now.

On another note, I did my DNA a few years back and found some of my ancestors and
their descendants are living there now in Nova Scotia, and Port Archadia. Are you near either of the places? My family trees have many common ancestors turn out that my birth ancestors settled there. My adopted surname is Lancaster but I was adopted at birth so my surnames are different. And they came to New France from a small village Southwest of Paris. Can't remember them all. I will have to look them up I am a descendant of the King of Turin and his son who was a famous painter back in the early 1500's. Fun Stuff
Cheers for now.
Perry Lancaster

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