Old 11-28-2017, 11:11 AM   #1
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v5.65pre18 - November 28 2017
+ Mouse modifiers: add context for tempo/time signature markers
+ Mouse modifiers: add contexts for project region and marker/region edge
+ Tempo envelope: enable freehand draw (always snaps drawn points to beat, though)
# MIDI editor: fix display of tempo/time signature changes
# Tempo envelope: fix weird bug [p=1917743]
# macOS: another small dmg layout tweak

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Old 11-28-2017, 11:23 AM   #2
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Neat! How about adding double-click contexts for those new mouse modifier sections? I can see "Open region/marker properties" as a viable candidate there (for Project region and Project tempo/timesig marker sections), and of course the action list. Also a left click option would be nice, so we can tweak alt+click on region deletes it, or other modifiers could do other stuff from action list, etc etc.
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Old 11-28-2017, 11:28 AM   #3
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+ Tempo envelope: enable freehand draw (always snaps drawn points to beat, though)
This is mucho nice, but shouldn't it respect current grid/snap settings? Not all timesigs use a quarter note as a reference. As expected, this doesn't work in 6/8 and similar timesigs, it still rounds to quarter notes. It should round to 8th notes in those timesigs at least! Always follow the denominator.

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Old 11-28-2017, 11:35 AM   #4
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Thanks for adjusting the Tab walk order in Tempo/Time Signature Marker dialog.

However, that dialog now opens with Position text input field focused. It should have the Tempo text input field focused, as it used to be!
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Old 11-28-2017, 12:41 PM   #5
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First of all, INFINITE THANKS FOR THE FREEHAND TEMPO DRAW!!!!!!

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This is mucho nice, but shouldn't it respect current grid/snap settings? Not all timesigs use a quarter note as a reference. As expected, this doesn't work in 6/8 and similar timesigs, it still rounds to quarter notes. It should round to 8th notes in those timesigs at least! Always follow the denominator.
I completely agree! It only needs to respect every possible grid/snap setting.
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Old 11-28-2017, 02:35 PM   #6
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# macOS: another small dmg layout tweak
It looks pretty good now on High Sierra. Will check Sierra soon.

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Still some blurry text though on Sierra:

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Neat! How about adding double-click contexts for those new mouse modifier sections? I can see "Open region/marker properties" as a viable candidate there (for Project region and Project tempo/timesig marker sections), and of course the action list. Also a left click option would be nice, so we can tweak alt+click on region deletes it, or other modifiers could do other stuff from action list, etc etc.
Absolutely, and adding a tempo or signature event with a mouse modifier would be a great workflow improvement.

Another thing, when I double click on a tempo or signature event, the cursor focus is always the position. It would be more logical, if the cursor would directly focus the tempo or signature field.
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Envelope tooltip gets out of sync with tempo marker.

(Isn't this a little too coarse for "fine" adjustment? Zoom dependant, but even at almost full screen it's about half a bpm)

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Would it be possible to add "Snap to media items edges" when dragging the marker?

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Old 11-28-2017, 08:15 PM   #11
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Maybe not quite a weird bug, but kind of funny.



Eighth note grid is on while freehand drawing. Saved after undoing it.



edit. Shift clicking some points there does this.

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It looks pretty good now on High Sierra.
But it still doesn't look so good on El Capitan (10.11.6) i.e. the window size doesn't match the background size, and the REAPER/ReaMote icons aren't positioned correctly.
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Old 11-29-2017, 12:05 PM   #13
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Bug:
Ruler measure numbers don't respect the project start measure offset. It does show the correct number in transport bar.

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Old 11-29-2017, 06:48 PM   #14
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Time signature not copying with this 3/8 region after edge point at same position is deleted. Licecap shows both. Undo at 0:08 after copy with edge point. Then delete edge point and copy again.

Tried something roughly similar with 4/4 measures and it didn't matter if the edge point at the same position as the time signature was deleted or not prior to copying. The signature still copied over with it either way.

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Old 11-29-2017, 08:49 PM   #15
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Using Remove Contents Of Time selection. Not only a bad cutting of measure 6 (4/4*), but the zooming and scrolling gets real laggy afterwards. (and CPU use goes up dramatically while doing so, in comparison with how it was before the problem.)




Maybe the asterisk should come before the 4/4 so that the indication of a problem will be visible at a greater zoom level? Or some other indication?
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:18 AM   #16
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But it still doesn't look so good on El Capitan (10.11.6) i.e. the window size doesn't match the background size, and the REAPER/ReaMote icons aren't positioned correctly.
Hmm looks good on 10.13 and 10.6 here (the window size is slightly bigger than the background, but not terribly so), so maybe we'll just blame 10.11... :/
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Hmm looks good on 10.13 and 10.6 here (the window size is slightly bigger than the background, but not terribly so), so maybe we'll just blame 10.11... :/
Fair enough then I guess. Do note that the v5.62 and older DMGs always looked fine (and still do) on El Capitan.

Anyways, High Sierra is the way forward (even if it is two steps back), so I will likely update soon.
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Fair enough then I guess. Do note that the v5.62 and older DMGs always looked fine (and still do) on El Capitan.

Anyways, High Sierra is the way forward (even if it is two steps back), so I will likely update soon.
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Hi,
Sorry to report this late, but the ruler is taking more verticle space no matter what I set ruler options to. It not a whole lot, but maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Went back to pre 13 and it was thinner verticly.
Anyone else?
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Fair enough then I guess. Do note that the v5.62 and older DMGs always looked fine (and still do) on El Capitan.

Anyways, High Sierra is the way forward (even if it is two steps back), so I will likely update soon.
Yeah it's maddening, the process for configuring those windows. The .DS_Store file format is utterly opaque, you have to mount a disk image, tweak it, unmount, remount, copy the file out. And apparently tweaking it on various OS versions produces different results that fail in various ways on various systems. Sigh.
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Apple - it "just works", right?
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Hi,
Sorry to report this late, but the ruler is taking more verticle space no matter what I set ruler options to. It not a whole lot, but maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Went back to pre 13 and it was thinner verticly.
Anyone else?
Minimum here is at least 2.5 toolbar buttons height with tempos/signatures hidden, probably a little more than that. Showing one of those doesn't change the minimum size. Showing both in separate lanes brings the minimum size up to about three toolbar buttons. Main ruler itself seems a little bigger in minimum size. Minimum size here with 5.62 is about 2.2 toolbar buttons high.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:40 PM   #23
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Devs.. Would there be any chance to fix this bug?

Packed Theme and Backgroud Icons

Packed themes with ReaperThemeZip extension sometimes cannot read all of the images, especially toolbar.
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+ Mouse modifiers: add contexts for project region and marker/region edge
When dragging a marker, what is it snapping to on the ruler marks? Edit: (If the grid is turned off)

If I have my ruler set to hours mins frames, and zoom in to see the frame marks on the ruler, when I drag the marker, shouldn't it snap to the frame marks?




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Yeah it's maddening, the process for configuring those windows. The .DS_Store file format is utterly opaque, you have to mount a disk image, tweak it, unmount, remount, copy the file out. And apparently tweaking it on various OS versions produces different results that fail in various ways on various systems. Sigh.
Yeah, been there, done that...

FYI: I have just installed reaper570_x86_64.dmg, and the 64-bit version looks better than the 32-bit version of the installer (the icons are correctly positioned, yay!). I guess most Mac users are running the 64-bit version anyway nowadays, but just saying.
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+ Mouse modifiers: add contexts for project region and marker/region edge

There is a regression with markers and snapping since this release.

If in the snap settings, I uncheck "Snap to project sample rate", the markers are still snapping to project sample rate.

In 5.62 it worked correctly.
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