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05-13-2019, 02:17 AM
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Plugin alliance Plugins
Hi everyone, just a quick question related to the knobs/sliders on the bx_ plugins.
I´ve noticed that when changing parameters with mouse click + drag the values change very unstable for all the plugins i have from Plugin Alliance. If i use the scroll value change smoother but increment / decrement on values that i m not interested in. Most of the plugins i use from other companies i have no problem changing the values.
I asked a couple of friend and they have no problem (with plugin alliance), but they use other daws.
Is this a DAW related issue or simply a know bus in Reaper?
Thanks
EDIT: The channel x and VSM3 they work OK , only for the bx_ ones.
Last edited by pepe44; 05-13-2019 at 02:24 AM.
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05-14-2019, 05:43 AM
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Ok, installed the VST version and doesn't happen. Only VST3 the knobs behave weird. Anyone ?
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05-14-2019, 05:48 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2014
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I think the default mouse movement is rotational, not up-and-down as most plugins are. I think there might be somewhere you can change that behaviour, but I just use the mouse wheel.
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05-14-2019, 05:56 AM
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Hi Judders, mousewheel values are not incremented by 0.1 with their plugins, there is the Shift + drag that smooths out the changes. Its a DAW related issue, doesnt happen on other DAWs, strange not hearing more comments on this.
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05-14-2019, 05:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepe44
Hi Judders, mousewheel values are not incremented by 0.1 with their plugins, there is the Shift + drag that smooths out the changes. Its a DAW related issue, doesnt happen on other DAWs, strange not hearing more comments on this.
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Hmmm... can't say I've noticed, but I can't think of a time where i needed 0.1 increments so perhaps a usage issue.
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05-14-2019, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepe44
Ok, installed the VST version and doesn't happen. Only VST3 the knobs behave weird. Anyone ?
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Can you show us a video or gif of the issue? I use their plugins all the time and don't see the issue
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05-14-2019, 03:44 PM
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Maybe hard to see from the gif, but here it is:
VST = smoth , normal behaviour
VST3 = bad knob movement, hard to follow.
https://ibb.co/6g3NFYC
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05-14-2019, 04:45 PM
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all Plugin Alliance plugins behave weird with the knobs. Maybe it is Reaper, maybe not..I never had them before I had reaper. As was mentioned, they don't adjust up/down like ALL OTHER PLUGS. You have to draw a circle with the mouse....WTF? It is absolutely frustrating to the point I can't even use them, personally.
You can also click directly on the value you want (say, the 3 o'clock position) and it will jump directly there. Very weird...nice sounding but very difficult to control and get precise values.
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05-15-2019, 01:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepe44
Maybe hard to see from the gif, but here it is:
VST = smoth , normal behaviour
VST3 = bad knob movement, hard to follow.
https://ibb.co/6g3NFYC
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I haven't noticed that, they both function smooth on my end
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05-15-2019, 04:28 AM
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Can't say I've really noticed this here and I have a ton of Plugin Alliance plugins that I use regularly.
The only thing I have noticed is the bx_limiter sliders tend to be difficult to adjust in small amounts. I'm probably not going to be using that much any more though since I purchased FabFilter Pro-L recently.
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05-15-2019, 06:03 AM
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Well i do understand that with the GIF is not very clear, but is very different...i've been testing some other VST3 plugin have the same behaviour from the VST2 version.
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05-15-2019, 08:13 AM
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Almost no plug-in supports this, but brainworx does!
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05-15-2019, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Breeder
Almost no plug-in supports this, but brainworx does!
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I knew I'd seen an option to change the knob behaviour somewhere!
Thanks!
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05-15-2019, 12:14 PM
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Breeder, i think that solved the problem, thanks man! its way better now.
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05-15-2019, 01:22 PM
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well that does change everything! thank you, love this community
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05-15-2019, 07:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
well that does change everything! thank you, love this community
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I agree. Very few idiots in this one compared to others. Most here are very helpful.
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05-16-2019, 04:38 AM
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Human being with feelings
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that is one of the reasons why Reaper grows so fast!
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05-16-2019, 04:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Breeder
Almost no plug-in supports this, but brainworx does!
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Thanks!
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