v5.01pre5 - August 21 2015

vitalker · 08-21-2015, 11:22 AM

v5.01pre5 - August 21 2015
+ Audio Units: fixed ReaMote issues
+ Audio Units: fixed issues with renamed plug-ins
+ Audio engine: optimized channel mixing, media item fades
+ VST3: fixed sidechain issues
# Nudge window: prevent showing offscreen
# VST3: check plugin latency on every buffer block
# VST3: hide option "Inform plug-in when track channel count changes" (n/a)
# VST3: request plugin latency later in initialization
# Window positioning: fixed various windows restoring to multimonitor areas
# Windows: installer now signed with SHA256 hash

plamuk · 08-21-2015, 12:01 PM

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# Window positioning: fixed various windows restoring to multimonitor areas

any further info on this one?

on the subject, is there any way to specify "X window ALWAYS open on X monitor"
often my FX chain windows, when closed, will re-open on the wrong screen, and i have to drag it back.

same with the "add fx" window.

one can always correct it by recalling a screenset but that's kind of disruptive

Justin · 08-21-2015, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nym

any further info on this one?

on the subject, is there any way to specify "X window ALWAYS open on X monitor"
often my FX chain windows, when closed, will re-open on the wrong screen, and i have to drag it back.

same with the "add fx" window.

one can always correct it by recalling a screenset but that's kind of disruptive

Hmm, OSX?

musicbynumbers · 08-21-2015, 12:38 PM

Window positioning: fixed various windows restoring to multimonitor areas

Thanks guys!

EvilDragon · 08-21-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vitalker

# Window positioning: fixed various windows restoring to multimonitor areas

Finally the MIDI editor (and undocked mixer) remember they've been maximized when doubleclicking their title bar! Finally!!

plamuk · 08-21-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin

Hmm, OSX?

win 8.1, sorry.

what determines upon which monitor a window opens? afaict it's "whichever monitor upon which the screen was last closed, per track in case of fx chain" ... in my default project, if i close a track fx chain window (settings--only 1 visible at a time) and reopen another track's fx chain window, it will often open in the "wrong" place

maybe if i understood the logic a bit better i could solve this on my end, but if it's project/track specific that = a lot of opening and closing fx chain windows in a lot of existing projects, plus revising my default.

any advice/feature for multimonitor users who always want X screen to open on X window would be terrific.

plamuk · 08-21-2015, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Finally the MIDI editor (and undocked mixer) remember they've been maximized when doubleclicking their title bar! Finally!!

may i please request that all floating windows do this, too? specifically the floating docker. i always have midi editors, media explorers etc docked, and occupying 1 dedicated monitor. they have no maximize function, and require the edges to be dragged to the limits of the monitor.

mezzo · 08-21-2015, 01:12 PM

Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 (Vst3 version) crashed Reaper (pre4 & pre5)
pre3 (and early) - its'OK! (Win7 x32)

nofish · 08-21-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Finally the MIDI editor (and undocked mixer) remember they've been maximized when doubleclicking their title bar! Finally!!

I'd love if I could also maximize a floating docker (if that's technically possible, I don't know).

Right now doubleclicking title bar does nothing and right-clicking -> Maximize is greyed out (Win 8.1)

airon · 08-21-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Finally the MIDI editor (and undocked mixer) remember they've been maximized when doubleclicking their title bar! Finally!!

Long time coming. I know someone must have come in their pants.

It'll be my turn with Preview functionality.

EvilDragon · 08-21-2015, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nofish

I'd love if I could also maximize a floating docker (if that's technically possible, I don't know).

Right now doubleclicking title bar does nothing and right-clicking -> Maximize is greyed out (Win 8.1)

Yep, agreed here as well!

clepsydrae · 08-21-2015, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vitalker

# Window positioning: fixed various windows restoring to multimonitor areas

Oooh ooh ooh, speaking of multiple monitors, please please this, I grovelingly request:

http://forums.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=5342

Argitoth · 08-21-2015, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Finally the MIDI editor (and undocked mixer) remember they've been maximized when doubleclicking their title bar! Finally!!

evildragon happy? that's a rare thing to behold.

cereboso · 08-21-2015, 07:13 PM

This release is causing audio dropouts during playback every 15-20 seconds or so. It basically just skips about half a second and then comes back to playback. I reverted back to pre4 and the problem is fixed.

FYI I'm using a mix of VST2 and VST3 plugins on Windows 8.1 x64.

vicnest · 08-21-2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by vitalker

v5.01pre5 - August 21 2015
+ VST3: fixed sidechain issues

For which VST3 plugins??
I still see no working VST3 sidechain in MCDSP plug-ins, Waves plug-ins, Softube plugins.

Also, is it possible to resize Auto-tune 8 to specified window size correctly when reopen the VST3 GUI (just like VST2)?

EpicSounds · 08-21-2015, 09:23 PM

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+ Audio engine: optimized channel mixing, media item fades

What's this about?
Sounds better or lower cpu?

Neutronic · 08-21-2015, 10:57 PM

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# Window positioning: fixed various windows restoring to multimonitor areas

In a multiple monitors with different screen resolutions scenario floating FXs always resize according to the screen resolution of monitor #1. Even if the floating FX window is manually resized on monitor #2 it is back to its default setting after reopening. That does not happen if an FX is opened in an FX chain window.
OS: Windows 10, but it also happened on Windows 7.

mabian · 08-21-2015, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Argitoth

evildragon happy? that's a rare thing to behold.

LOL

EvilDragon · 08-22-2015, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Argitoth

evildragon happy? that's a rare thing to behold.

With that one particular thing, yeah. There's plenty of other stuff that doesn't warrant any happiness at all

Sexan · 08-22-2015, 04:02 AM

Not V5 bug but you can dock any window in toolbar docker,looks cute but you can't move it or resize:

Mini mixer

the mini of miniest

JHughes · 08-22-2015, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vitalker

# Windows: installer now signed with SHA256 hash

Windows still doesn't like the installer, even running as admin doesn't help. Guess I'll reboot and try again.
<edit>Reboot fixed it. This problem (Windows not liking preview builds) is not new but is worse in Win 10 for me. I think a breadcrumb is in windows error logs.</edit>

BTW, the WASAPI loopback is brilliant.

javiramallo · 08-22-2015, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JHughes

Windows still doesn't like the installer, even running as admin doesn't help. Guess I'll reboot and try again.

BTW, the WASAPI loopback is brilliant.

Here the Installer work Fine now.

Windows 7 x64. i7, 8gb RAM.

xpander · 08-22-2015, 06:00 AM

Not mentioned but there´s a new folder in v5.01pre5, MIDINoteNames. That seems to be the default folder from where Reaper looks for the note name files for the MIDI editor piano keyboard.

esosotericmetal · 08-22-2015, 06:49 AM

Is this sends bug going to get fixed? Seems like a pretty glaring one. Thought it was only the default theme at first but it seems to be happening with other themes as well.

BlackBart · 08-22-2015, 08:22 AM

Vienna Ensemble Pro VSTi3 hangs when loading...starting with Pre4. (Pre3 and before are fine)

Win 8.1 Reaper x64

+NRG · 08-22-2015, 08:28 AM

Haven't ever had an issue with the installer? Windows 8 & 10...

vitalker · 08-22-2015, 09:18 AM

Devs, what about pinned windows over all the windows in system?

Jeffos · 08-22-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mezzo

Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 (Vst3 version) crashed Reaper (pre4 & pre5)
pre3 (and early) - its'OK! (Win7 x32)

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Originally Posted by BlackBart

Vienna Ensemble Pro VSTi3 hangs when loading...starting with Pre4. (Pre3 and before are fine)

Win 8.1 Reaper x64

Yes, thanks for the reports, this should be fixed soon...

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Originally Posted by vicnest

For which VST3 plugins??
I still see no working VST3 sidechain in MCDSP plug-ins, Waves plug-ins, Softube plugins.

I think there are plugin issues too, at least with some IPlug-based plugins and Softube (heartbeat vst3?), but would you mind elaborating a bit? What is the problem exactly?

EDIT: erratum for Softube/heartbeat -- No sidechain actually, I was thinking to a different issue (this plug-in's output seems stuck stereo, it doesn't obey to our our setBusArrangements() requests...)

Lawrence · 08-22-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilDragon

With that one particular thing, yeah. There's plenty of other stuff that doesn't warrant any happiness at all

We're gonna transform you into "Happy Dragon".

EvilDragon · 08-22-2015, 11:19 AM

LOL

EvilDragon · 08-22-2015, 11:41 AM

It's Mario. But ED's fine.

Way to pollute the pre thread

Mink99 · 08-22-2015, 12:14 PM

Is the "first bar" bug on hardware midi out in scope ? -- description --
Is the "loop ignored" when synced externally in scope ? (Was noted in pre 3)

Kemeros · 08-22-2015, 03:05 PM

Installer still needs to be in a windows defender exclusion zone otherwise it will take 5 minutes to load.

ramses · 08-22-2015, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kemeros

Installer still needs to be in a windows defender exclusion zone otherwise it will take 5 minutes to load.

Confirmed, still takes a good while to initate.

Lannister · 08-22-2015, 03:56 PM

Haven't had any problems with the REAPER installer either on Windows 8/8.1 or now Windows 10.

Maybe installing using the "portable install" option like I do makes a difference, I dunno. It could be problems relating to permissions if using the normal install option and installing to Programs Files.

Might be worth a try doing a portable install and seeing if there's still a problem.

Kemeros · 08-22-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lannister

Haven't had any problems with the REAPER installer either on Windows 8/8.1 or now Windows 10.

Maybe installing using the "portable install" option like I do makes a difference, I dunno. It could be problems relating to permissions if using the normal install option and installing to Programs Files.

Might be worth a try doing a portable install and seeing if there's still a problem.

I only do portable installs and the problem is before choosing which kind of installation.

The installer doesn't even start until windows defender decides it's safe. It can take up to 10 minutes. If you add an exclusion zone in windows defender for the folder where the installer is, it works without any problem. So windows defender is interfering for some reason.

Lannister · 08-22-2015, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kemeros

I only do portable installs and the problem is before choosing which kind of installation.

The installer doesn't even start until windows defender decides it's safe. It can take up to 10 minutes. If you add an exclusion zone in windows defender for the folder where the installer is, it works without any problem. So windows defender is interfering for some reason.

OK so that's strange then,. because I don't have an exclusion for the installer folder and yet it starts as soon as I double-click on it.

No delay at all

TBProAudio · 08-22-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vicnest

For which VST3 plugins??
I still see no working VST3 sidechain in MCDSP plug-ins, Waves plug-ins, Softube plugins.

I can confirm this for Impress, VST3 side chain is not working.

Regards
Thomas

+NRG · 08-23-2015, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lannister

OK so that's strange then,. because I don't have an exclusion for the installer folder and yet it starts as soon as I double-click on it.

No delay at all

Very strange... I don't do a portable install or have an exclusion set up for the installer in Windows Defender? Windows 8 - 10. Reaper is the quickest download and install in the west! I've installed just about every update, pre & rc since 2012...

Catesby · 08-23-2015, 03:53 AM

this could definitely use a look see. cant see the whole title of the parameter im selecting and there in some strange spacing behind each column. makes it difficult to select a specific freq band for example. atleast a scrolling title might help. ..
..altho it only seems to happen in the Take Envelope popup
latest pre/osx