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08-25-2018, 08:20 PM
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v5.95pre12 - August 25 2018
v5.95pre12 - August 25 2018
+ Automation items: pasting items with AIs will obey trim content behind automation items preference [p=2027226]
+ Item copy via drag: include automation between items
+ Mixer: fix incorrect channel info tooltip for hardware outputs [t=210380]
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08-25-2018, 09:06 PM
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+ Automation items: pasting items with AIs will obey trim content behind automation items preference [p=2027226]
Undo doesn't behave correctly when trim is enabled.
Copy selected area items,
Paste,
Undo,
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08-26-2018, 01:07 AM
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+ Item copy via drag: include automation between items
Amazing! Thanks for this. Will aim to test it later today!
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08-26-2018, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
+ Automation items: pasting items with AIs will obey trim content behind automation items preference [p=2027226]
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Much better!
Please also remember the Duplicate actions:
* Duplicate items
* Duplicate selected are of items
* Move duplicate of item to edit cursor
* Move duplicate of item under mouse to edit cursor
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08-26-2018, 08:47 AM
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+ Item copy via drag: include automation between items
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Thanks, seems to be working perfectly.
Would it also be possible to make dragging via copy obey the current time selection if it's longer then the selected items (right now it only obey time selections that are shorter than the selected items) so that the copy could include automation that's in the time selection but not between items. Similar to the way the action "Item: Copy selected area of items" works
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08-26-2018, 11:37 AM
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Last edited by Edgemeal; 08-26-2018 at 11:43 AM.
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08-26-2018, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musicbynumbers
+ Item copy via drag: include automation between items
Amazing! Thanks for this. Will aim to test it later today!
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Tested and so far so good! Thanks, this is super useful!
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08-26-2018, 12:47 PM
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Nice improvements.
It would be a good idea there is an option which give the possibility to automatically delete an automation item under an item when we delete an item.
Last edited by ovnis; 08-26-2018 at 02:17 PM.
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08-26-2018, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ovnis
Nice improvements.
It would be a good idea there is an option which give the possibility to automatically delete an automation item under an item when when delete an item.
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08-26-2018, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ovnis
It would be a good idea there is an option which give the possibility to automatically delete an automation item under an item when when delete an item.
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I'm not sure that a new option is necessary:
In current versions, if the automation item is *selected*, it will be deleted along with the media item and everything else that is selected (whether or not "Envelope points move with media items" is enabled). This is consistent with other item-related functions: if an item is selected, the function is applied; if an item is not selected, the function is not applied.
That said, if "Envelope points move with media items" is enabled, it might make sense if envelope points -- including AIs -- are deleted along with the media items.
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08-26-2018, 02:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juliansader
I'm not sure that a new option is necessary:
In current versions, if the automation item is *selected*, it will be deleted along with the media item and everything else that is selected (whether or not "Envelope points move with media items" is enabled). This is consistent with other item-related functions: if an item is selected, the function is applied; if an item is not selected, the function is not applied.
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It would me more complicated, because, we shoud to display envelope tracks. Plus, it could be compasated the lake of AI actions (for exemple : there is no action to select all AI on a track).
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That said, if "Envelope points move with media items" is enabled, it might make sense if envelope points -- including AIs -- are deleted along with the media items.
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Yes, it's true.
But I don't use any more "Envelope points move with media items" because from time to time, we can move item on an another track to test some new arrangement possibilities. The issue is than, sometimes, envelope automation/automation item below the item can unintentionally modifie VST which are on the track where the item has been moved.
So, "envelope points move with media item only on the same track" should be a good idea, for me.
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08-26-2018, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinGShore
Would it also be possible to make dragging via copy obey the current time selection if it's longer then the selected items (right now it only obey time selections that are shorter than the selected items) so that the copy could include automation that's in the time selection but not between items. Similar to the way the action "Item: Copy selected area of items" works
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Agreed.
At the moment, Ctrl+leftdrag to "Copy selected area within time selection" handles AIs and non-AI points differently, neither correctly:
* Non-AI points that fall inside the time selection but outside the item boundaries are ignored.
* In contrast, entire (selected) AIs are moved, even parts that extend outside the time selection. Ctrl-dragging the AIs themselves, do trim correctly
(P.S. This GIF is from an old thread, so please ignore how the AIs lag behind the mouse position - that bug has been fixed.)
Last edited by juliansader; 08-27-2018 at 02:06 AM.
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