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Old 05-28-2020, 04:34 AM   #1
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Default Envelope vertical scaling across DAWs

I've just used AATranslator to bring a project over from Studio One to Reaper, and I was comparing volume automation envelopes. It's not something you usually get a chance to do, to compare exact values from DAW to DAW. At least I've never thought about it before until now.

But checkout this hihat automation. It ranges from -38dB to around -20dB.

Here it is in Studio One:


Here is the same data in Reaper:


Now I'm much more able to see the relatively differences between levels and get a good idea of what is going on inside Studio One. Because the vertical scaling is more to my taste.

Reaper goes from -inf to +6dB, and there is a lot of range there that is difficult to access, even when the automation track is at full height.

Studio One goes from -inf to 0dB, and the scaling curve seems to be very different.

Is this something that is, or could ever be, customizable?

I'm sure all DAWs do this differently and everyone is gonna have their own preferences.
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Old 05-28-2020, 04:40 AM   #2
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Can't check right now, but I believe in preferences you can set your fader range to whatever you want, and then set volume envelope to fader scale.
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Can't check right now, but I believe in preferences you can set your fader range to whatever you want, and then set volume envelope to fader scale.
Changing from -inf to 0dB in the prefs helps a little. But it's still quite a huge difference in terms of visual display. All the information is crunched up at the bottom of the envelope.
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Old 05-28-2020, 02:27 PM   #4
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Yes, in your pic it's amplitude scaled.
Below: top lane is fader scaled, bottom is amplitude scaled (the two points going from -38 to -20).
I don't know though if it's possible to 'afterwards' convert existing automation lanes from amplitude - to fader scaled.

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Old 05-28-2020, 11:48 PM   #5
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Yes, Fader Scale is the answer that we had to wait for years...

You can change it afterwards by right-clicking on the envelope and select Envelope Default.
But you have to do it for each one.
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