Crash while loading ReaFir (FIXED)

Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 01:37 AM

justin,

just wanted to try out the new opengl-acceleration, but i can't even get reafir to load in 1.48. reaper crashes immediately (see attached screeshot).

graphiccard: matrox millenium p650 agp (64mb, opengl 1.3) with driver version 1.12.00.110

FIXED

Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 01:43 AM

with acceleration disabled it doesn't crash!

Diogenes · 12-07-2006, 10:33 AM

It seems OK on my laptop. ATI Radeon Xpress 200M. My main system has a Matrox card but I don't recall trying ReaFir on it since upgrading to V1.48. I'll try it this evening and post back if it bombs...

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Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 10:45 AM

thank you!

Christophe · 12-07-2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dandruff

justin,

just wanted to try out the new opengl-acceleration, but i can't even get reafir to load in 1.48. reaper crashes immediately (see attached screeshot).

graphiccard: matrox millenium p650 agp (64mb, opengl 1.3) with driver version 1.12.00.110

Please put this dll into your REAPER/Plugins/fx folder, then launch reafir with opengl acceleration. It will generate a "c:\gldebug.txt" file. Then cut/paste this text file here so I can see where it crashes

http://cockos.com/~christophe/reafir.dll

Thanks,
-Christophe

Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 12:23 PM

thank you too. here you go:

Christophe · 12-07-2006, 12:42 PM

Ok, try this new DLL and let me know if it still crashes (and if so, attach the new gldebug.Txt)

http://cockos.com/~christophe/reafir.dll

-Christophe

Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 12:52 PM

yes, this one crashes too. same debug-output as above.

Christophe · 12-07-2006, 01:17 PM

Hmm, try this sample opengl application to see if it crashes on your system:

http://cockos.com/~christophe/ogl_test.zip

-Christophe

BTW: do you have AIM or MSN/Yahoo?

Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 01:25 PM

crashes too.

maybe my card even only supports opengl 1.2 (don't know which version/features you need). and i'm also running windows/matrox-drivers in independent mode (means 2 displays, not a stretched desktop).

here some info on my system (from dxdiag.exe - don't know if it's useful):

Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 01:26 PM

and i only have icq.

Christophe · 12-07-2006, 01:45 PM

What about this opengl sample test?

http://cockos.com/~christophe/ogl_test2.zip

If it still crashes, I'd definitly say it's a driver issue. Can you check on the matrox website if there are updated drivers for your card?

-Christophe

Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 02:15 PM

this one doesn't crash. it gives this error on startup: "could not get a valid pixel format"

then it runs. i see a room which can be moved via my mouse. the colors are in green only!?

drivers are the latest (from august 2006).

Christophe · 12-07-2006, 02:28 PM

Ok, try this DLL, it won't give you accelerated support but at least, should not crash on your system.

http://cockos.com/~christophe/reafir.dll

-Christophe

Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 02:31 PM

crashes too (reaper, not the system):

Christophe · 12-07-2006, 02:50 PM

Ok, refetch the DLL

Should not crash now

-Christophe

Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 03:05 PM

confirmed. works!

Diogenes · 12-07-2006, 05:02 PM

Well... I see why it did'nt bomb on my Matrox card in the main DAW. It DOES NOT support OpenGl! Hah! Oh well... I'm glad you got it sorted out.

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Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diogenes

It DOES NOT support OpenGl!

which model? must be very old!?

Diogenes · 12-07-2006, 05:58 PM

G450 dual-head. I bought a couple for like 10 bux apiece when my original ATI Radeon 9200SE went to the PCB junk yard in the sky. Since it only lasted till the warranty expired, I'm actually hoping it wound up in PC board hell.

I don't do video. Just straight-up audio work so I just needed a basic dual-head card that would not put a ton of traffic on the buss. Know what I mean?

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Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 06:10 PM

yeah, but if i remember correctly, the g450 had opengl support (i had such a card long time ago). but maybe it's even worse than on the newer cards ...

Diogenes · 12-07-2006, 06:16 PM

This thing only has 16MB of RAM so I don't expect much... also, I could find nothing about OpenGl in the Matrox control panel. The 450 goes back quite a few years... what mid 2000 or there abouts? That is eons in the PC hardware biz.

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Christophe · 12-07-2006, 06:28 PM

I just found a great OpenGL diagnostic app. Both of you download it there:

http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/download.html

Then, check out if your card supports the WGL_ARB_pbuffer extension.

Also, you could save the XML result file and attach it to this thread, that could be helpful.

Thanks,
-Christophe

Diogenes · 12-07-2006, 06:42 PM

It is as I thought... the 450 is too old. No hardware accelerated OpenGl support...

Quote:

System Info
Windows XP Professional

Vendor
Microsoft Corporation
1.1.0

Renderer
GDI Generic

Extensions
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_paletted_texture
GL_WIN_swap_hint

Core features

v1.1 (100 % - 7/7)
v1.2 (12 % - 1/8)
v1.3 (0 % - 0/9)
v1.4 (0 % - 0/15)
v1.5 (0 % - 0/3)
v2.0 (0 % - 0/10)
v2.1 (0 % - 0/3)
OpenGL driver version check (Current: 1.1.0, Latest known: 1.1.0):
Latest version of display drivers found

According the database, you are running the latest display drivers for your video card.
No ICD registry entry

The current OpenGL driver doesn't expose the SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Windows (NT)/CurrentVersion/OpenGLDrivers registry entry. Unable to detect the driver version, driver revision name and filename.
No hardware support

Your current video configuration DOES NOT support hardware accelerated OpenGL.
No compiled vertex array support

This may cause performance loss in some applications.
No paletted texture support

This may cause performance loss in some older applications.
No multitexturing support

This may cause performance loss in some applications.
No secondary color support

Some applications may not render polygon highlights correctly.
No S3TC compression support

This may cause performance loss in some applications.
No texture edge clamp support

This feature adds clamping control to edge texel filtering. Some programs may not render textures correctly (black line on borders.)
No vertex program support

This feature enables vertex programming (equivalent to DX8 Vertex Shader.) Some current or future OpenGL programs may require this feature.
No fragment program support

This feature enables per pixel programming (equivalent to DX9 Pixel Shader.) Some current or future OpenGL programs may require this feature.
No OpenGL Shading Language support

This may break compatibility for applications using per pixel shading.
No Frame buffer object support

This may break compatibility for applications using render to texture functions.
Few texture units found

This may slow down some applications using fragment programs or extensive texture mapping.
Extension verification:
GL_EXT_color_subtable was not found, but has the entry point glColorSubTableEXT

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Dstruct · 12-07-2006, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christophe

I just found a great OpenGL diagnostic app. Both of you download it there:

http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/download.html

just searched this tool today, but didn't found it. here the info:

System Info
Windows XP Professional

Vendor
Matrox Graphics Inc.
1.3

Renderer
Matrox ICD for Parhelia

Extensions
GL_ARB_depth_texture
GL_ARB_multisample
GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_point_parameters
GL_ARB_shadow
GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_texture_compression
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map
GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix
GL_ARB_window_pos
GL_ATI_element_array
GL_ATI_vertex_array_object
GL_Autodesk_valid_back_buffer_hint
GL_EXT_bgra
GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate
GL_EXT_blend_logic_op
GL_EXT_blend_minmax
GL_EXT_blend_subtract
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint
GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements
GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays
GL_EXT_packed_pixels
GL_EXT_point_parameters
GL_EXT_rescale_normal
GL_EXT_secondary_color
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap
GL_EXT_subtexture
GL_EXT_texture3D
GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_env_add
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3
GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias
GL_EXT_texture_object
GL_EXT_vertex_array
GL_EXT_vertex_shader
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_KTX_buffer_region
GL_MTX_fragment_shader
GL_MTX_precision_dpi
GL_NV_blend_square
GL_NV_texgen_reflection
GL_NV_texture_rectangle
GL_S3_s3tc
GL_SGIS_multitexture
GL_SGIS_texture_lod
GL_WIN_swap_hint
WGL_ARB_extensions_string
WGL_ARB_multisample
WGL_ARB_pbuffer
WGL_ARB_pixel_format
WGL_EXT_extensions_string
WGL_EXT_pixel_format
WGL_EXT_swap_control

Core features

v1.1 (100 % - 7/7)
v1.2 (100 % - 8/8)
v1.3 (100 % - 9/9)
v1.4 (86 % - 13/15)
v1.5 (0 % - 0/3)
v2.0 (0 % - 0/10)
v2.1 (0 % - 0/3)
OpenGL driver version check (Current: 1.3 , Latest known: 1.3 ):
Latest version of display drivers found

According the database, you are running the latest display drivers for your video card.
No ICD registry entry

The current OpenGL driver doesn't expose the SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Windows (NT)/CurrentVersion/OpenGLDrivers registry entry. Unable to detect the driver version, driver revision name and filename.
Compiled vertex array support

This feature improves OpenGL performance by using video memory to cache transformed vertices.
No paletted texture support

This may cause performance loss in some older applications.
Multitexture support

This feature accelerates complex rendering such as lightmaps or environment mapping.
Secondary color support

This feature provides an alternate method of coloring specular highlights on polygons.
S3TC compression support

This feature improves texture mapping performance in some applications by using lossy compression.
Texture edge clamp support

This feature improves texturing quality by adding clamping control to edge texel filtering.
No vertex program support

This feature enables vertex programming (equivalent to DX8 Vertex Shader.) Some current or future OpenGL programs may require this feature.
No fragment program support

This feature enables per pixel programming (equivalent to DX9 Pixel Shader.) Some current or future OpenGL programs may require this feature.
Texture anisotropic filtering support

This feature improves the quality of texture mapping on oblique surfaces.
No OpenGL Shading Language support

This may break compatibility for applications using per pixel shading.
No Frame buffer object support

This may break compatibility for applications using render to texture functions.
Extension verification:
GL_EXT_vertex_array has the entry point glArrayElementEXT missing!

GL_EXT_vertex_array has the entry point glColorPointerEXT missing!

GL_EXT_vertex_array has the entry point glDrawArraysEXT missing!

GL_EXT_vertex_array has the entry point glEdgeFlagPointerEXT missing!

GL_EXT_vertex_array has the entry point glGetPointervEXT missing!

GL_EXT_vertex_array has the entry point glIndexPointerEXT missing!

GL_EXT_vertex_array has the entry point glNormalPointerEXT missing!

GL_EXT_vertex_array has the entry point glTexCoordPointerEXT missing!

GL_EXT_vertex_array has the entry point glVertexPointerEXT missing!

WGL_MTX_video_preview was not found, but is available in driver version 1.3