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Old 09-03-2007, 05:34 PM   #41
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wow...

awesome update...

keep up the killer work...I'm floored...
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:34 PM   #42
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Now THIS...I like.(Automated Send mutes in 2.01...pretty please)

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Old 09-03-2007, 05:37 PM   #43
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Can I ask the bad question?

How much more will 2.0 be? And will non-com ones go up? I'm balancing the price of going into debt for the current version vs. the new prices when I actually can afford it
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:41 PM   #44
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Here is the draft documentation for some of the New Features:

http://www.cockos.com/~glazfolk/Reap...ide2.00NEW.pdf

Hope it helps ....
Incredible. I started to feel like a veeeery lazy lizard enjoying the last days of summer after reading that post, nicholas. Many thanks.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:41 PM   #45
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so far very cool but...

in toggling between classic theme and the new default, i miss the white band behind the track names ala the classic theme. (makes it much easier for me to see, plus i'm used to sharpie on masking tape on a mixer scribble strip )

can't seem to bring that back thru prefrences. anybody? thanks in advance.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:44 PM   #46
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All I can say is quality stuff. Really must go to bed being from the ole England means its way past my bed time but seeing this I just had to check it out.

Love the new default theme, clean and just looks "soooo much better" for people who will be finding out about Reaper

Also thankyou for the mixer seeing the plugins and just being able to Shift+Click to disable/enable the plugins just makes me smile!!

Not had a huge time to play with the other features but from where I am looking like a great platform in which to really put Reaper on the map for DAW software and roll on Reaper 3
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:54 PM   #47
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Spent the last hour or so tracking and I must say... ran flawlessly and looks absolutely gorgeous. Thanks so much for all the hard work. I love it!
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:09 PM   #48
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first impression is fantastic, the automation enhencement and fx,sends in the mixer are wonderfull.

the only thing i don't get : why has the RMS level in the master such a big overhead now. beside that many old advance theme master vu looks bad i would suggest, that the rms level will never reach the zeropoint for a normal mix anyway ????
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I sooo love the way the FX & sends on the mixer are scalable.. it's perfect flexibility. Nicely thought out!

One thought - having seen Vegas Pro 8's mixer has horizontal faders on the sends, I reckon it could be a very good idea to make right-click hold on the sends display a draggable left to right send level (a thin line like the velocity throttles) which disappears as soon as you release the mouse! Otherwise it's likely to turn up as a "hey they've got that & we haven't" FR very soon!

Is that do-able I wonder?
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I haven't appeared here for months, cos it was summer and I was sailing and biking and stuff. Apparently others weren't.

Anyway - v 2 - w00t!

I think I know what I'll be playing with this fall and winter.

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The external MIDI editor link is still broken in this update btw

hope it will be OK in the next one
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:57 PM   #52
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Fecking awesome. Big multi-track project with tons of edits in progress opened first time and runs great! Looks great too!

Thanks!

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How can I get Reaper to show fx inserts on every project by default? I have to right click and enable it every time, and it resets when I close and reopen? I didn't find this in the global preferences...thanks!
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GREAT UPDATE! Love the FX and Sends in the mixer. If I could suggest ONE change though... it would be freakin' awesome if clicking the same button AGAIN, CLOSED the opened dialog.

Reaper rocks on...

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Old 09-03-2007, 07:16 PM   #55
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Man!!......

now us Mac users feel farther behind than ever!
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This is too good to be true.

I cannot be happier, both Reaper and and Jamstix went 2.0. God bless you guys...you've made me a very happy man today.

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Now THIS...I like.(Automated Send mutes in 2.01...pretty please)

This is a nice addition. I also like the transport buttons.(not pictured here) Just as good if not better than the Cornish style which I have adopted as my fave. I must say, a minimize function for the docker is getting to be more necessary with so much more real estate being developed. Alt+D for now.
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What a great start into ver 2.x! Grats and thanks to everyone involved.
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:30 PM   #59
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Nicholas, in the PDF of the additions to the manual, it says that Alt-click in the FX bay will float an fx control window, but it actually deletes the fx.

I love this new release. The FX bay: great addition. It alone will save us collectively millions of mouseclicks in the coming months.

Automation: the auto-creation of envelopes option is clearly there to stop me from whinging about automation. It succeeds totally in that regard :-)

The new theme deserves to be the default. I've never really clicked to WT's theme's before, but this one is beautifully restrained -- or refined might be a better word. Very easy to look at and decipher, and it skillfully manages to tread the fine line of balance between the 2d and 3d camps among the theme users. And it just looks classy.

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The new theme deserves to be the default. I've never really clicked to WT's theme's before, but this one is beautifully restrained -- or refined might be a better word. Very easy to look at and decipher, and it skillfully manages to tread the fine line of balance between the 2d and 3d camps among the theme users. And it just looks classy.
I could not agree more... excellent job guys! I can't wait for the "gag order" to be lifted!

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Old 09-03-2007, 08:00 PM   #61
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Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

The FX insert view is worth it alone! Thanks Justin and crew!!

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Your commitment to this project is second to none. Just downloaded the beta... no sleep tonight. I was going to spend some time tonight remixing a tune I've been working on, so the beta going to get a workout.

Just a sidenote: My computer keyboard has a series of keys you can set to open frequently used programs. Reaper has knocked Cubase 4 off the #1 button... you're #1 on my "speed dial".
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The external MIDI editor link is still broken in this update btw

hope it will be OK in the next one
fixing, might even sneak it into this build.. I'll post if I do...
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It's there...it just doesn't have a visible border around it. Just double click there and the edit window will be available.

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It's still there, just blends in now.. doubleclick where it would be...
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:20 PM   #67
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2.0 looks very nice. I've just started using Reaper so I haven't registered it. Will the price increase be large? Will the mac version become feature complete in the semi-near future?

Also... I found a bug but I was unable to repro it. In a 1.888 project I had a folder track containing two audio tracks and a couple of VSTi tracks below. I loaded this into the beta and all was well. I messed around for a bit and then clicked on the folder tracks button and all of the tracks would toggle between folder tracks and non-folder tracks. I was unable to get the folder tracks to work correctly after this. I then created a new project to see if I could repro there but it didn't. I then loaded up the offending project again and it no longer had the problem. Wish I had a solid repro for you. (I'm a programmer myself and know that no repro bugs are a pain )
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Do I need to uninstall ver 1, or can I just install ver 2 over it.
I realize that sometimes this is a 'no-no', but with the amazing stuff Justin does... I fiqured I better ask.
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install right over it.
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I don't get it, why is jumping to 2.0 a good thing.
I was hoping for a lot more fixes improvements before 2.0

For this update, why don't I see the FX and Sends in the TCP. There's plenty of room and it wouldn't bother anyone that doesn't want it. 2 columns below the meter.

The Master displays fx before the tracks when stretching the window, and remains out of line until the fx pane has expanded to it's maximum height.

The Mixers "Scroll tracks when Activated" only works downward, when lower number track is selected the mixer does not scroll.

I was expecting an option to display the Matrix when i rightclick ed on the new send pane.

I don't see much use of renaming fx in the mixer, but I sure would like it if Reaper would not overwrite my corrections for mis-naming, and longlong naming, by the FX manager. It's a losing battle. At least I should be able to keep the right names in the My Folders section

Well, I doubt anyone will appreciate this post, and I won't rehash the contents listed in Bug and Nitpicks, but I really don't see a 1.89 to 2.00 jump here.

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Nicholas, in the PDF of the additions to the manual, it says that Alt-click in the FX bay will float an fx control window, but it actually deletes the fx.
Yeah, it was like that but got changed. Ctrl-click floats it now.
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[*]Mixer: Optional FX/send views on the track.[/list]
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Are the "FX/sends views" only that..? Views..?

For inserts that's nice - at a glance view of all the insert FX. But for sends, how does just a view help in any way?

Is it possible to tweak send amounts on the channel strip without opening another window/dialogue yet?


The GUI does look nice - a big improvement. But overall I'm extremely underwhelmed by this version. It seems that most of the "improvements" have been cosmetic rather than functional and many user requests have been ignored - MIDI, quantise & groove etc.

I know a lot of forum members will disagree with me for various reasons and some may even be abusive toward me. But frankly, that's how I feel - extremely disappointed.


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I don't get it, why is jumping to 2.0 a good thing.
I was hoping for a lot more fixes improvements before 2.0

For this update, why don't I see the FX and Sends in the TCP. There's plenty of room and it wouldn't bother anyone that doesn't want it. 2 columns below the meter.

The Master displays fx before the tracks when stretching the window, and remains out of line until the fx pane has expanded to it's maximum height.

The Mixers "Scroll tracks when Activated" only works downward, when lower number track is selected the mixer does not scroll.

I was expecting an option to display the Matrix when i rightclick ed on the new send pane.

I don't see much use of renaming fx in the mixer, but I sure would like it if Reaper would not overwrite my corrections for mis-naming, and longlong naming, by the FX manager. It's a losing battle. At least I should be able to keep the right names in the My Folders section

Well, I doubt anyone will appreciate this post, and I won't rehash the contents listed in Bug and Nitpicks, but I really don't see a 1.89 to 2.00 jump here.

Sorry,
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well, no offense but its a MASSIVE jump.

you really have to read a bit to see that.

just cause ALL of YOUR concerns havent totally been met yet, or you dont know about or understand the new features, doesnt mean its not a worthy jump.

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Are the "FX/sends views" only that..? Views..?

For inserts that's nice - at a glance view of all the insert FX. But for sends, how does just a view help in any way?

Is it possible to tweak send amounts on the channel strip without opening another window/dialogue yet?


The GUI does look nice - a big improvement. But overall I'm extremely underwhelmed by this version. It seems that most of the "improvements" have been cosmetic rather than functional and many user requests have been ignored - MIDI, quantise & groove etc.

I know a lot of forum members will disagree with me for various reasons and some may even be abusive toward me. But frankly, that's how I feel - extremely disappointed.


Uhhh...did you actually use it or just look at it? Try clicking, right-clicking, dragging, shift, ctrl, alt click, drag, etc.

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but I think you're not even bothering to check the details before forming an opinion.

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for those that havent bothered to read the ENTIRE changelog, here it is:

v2.0 beta 0 - FORUM ONLY BUILD - September 3 2007
+ new about screen
+ mixer: optional FX and Send views (configurable via the mixer menu)
+ mixer: more settings are now stored in the project
+ mixer: options are now assignable actions
+ mixer: state refreshed on project load (to project settings)
+ mixer: new FX/send views are themeable (mcp_fxlist_norm/byp/off/empty, mcp_master_fxlist_ too)
+ master track: can now have more than 2 channels
+ master track: can now control source channels/phase/volume/pan/etc of each hardware output independently
+ master track: better RMS metering, lots of RMS display options
+ automation: added option prefs/editing/"Automatically add/arm envelopes when tweaking parameters in write modes"
+ JS: PDC support for effects (pdc_bot_ch and pdc_top_ch to specify channels, pdc_delay to specify sample delay)
+ JS: added play_state, play_position, and beat_position variables
+ JS: added time_adjustment which allows delay/predelaying signal
+ JS: added autopeakfilter for fun autowah type effects
+ screensets: fixed docker issues
+ screensets: added mixer flags saving
+ screensets: added last focused window state saving
+ fx: comment window is now modeless
+ fx: added vertical scrollbar to comment window
+ fx: you can now rename instances of effects to better describe their application
+ fx: action to build multichannel routing for the output of multichannel VSTis
+ fx: action to build 16 channels of midi routing for the current track
+ editing: fixed cutting items in ripple all mode
+ editing: split items at loop selection selects only items in selection (not unsplit previously selected items)
+ editing: apply fx to new take now works on empty items
+ editing: better zoom from scrollbar when zoom set to center on mouse cursor
+ editing: enabled zoom out to see more than a few hours
+ editing: better envelope behavior in item moving and ripple editing
+ theming: faster drawing, faster mouseover updating
+ theming: background for faders, window backgrounds, name backgrounds, etc support pink line for unstretch areas
+ theming: docker is now independently colorthemeable
+ theming: new default colortheme (by WhiteTie!)
+ theming: support for when path to theme dir changes on diff systems
+ theming: advanced faders can have zero line set
+ theming: configurable fonts for track panels / volpan labels etc -- keyman sam look here!
+ theming: track_fxempty_h and track_fxempty_v
+ theming: window drawing improvements (less screen corruption issues)
+ theming: fixed stopped resize of transport drawing issues
+ theming: fixed some playspeed automation refresh issues
+ midi editor: fixed a bug with play cursor and lengthy looped midi items
+ midi editor: colortheme settings in prefs (including for piano keys etc)
+ midi editor: better vertical scrollbar
+ track I/O dialog: fixed labelling on hardware outs after adding routing
+ faster dB unit conversion throughout
+ reacomp/reaxcomp: performance improvements
+ demo song: updated mix
+ Monkey's Audio: fix for Unicode files

i bolded the ones i found personally important. but theres alot of good stuff in here!

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YOU ARE SIMPLY genius!!!!! OK i'm gonna giver this a try , already installed it and it seem to ROCK solid.. now i'll test the new features tomorrrow WOW and Mister White T... as usual, greeat great job!!

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im not utterly dissapointed or anything like that...I always look for work arounds. But i do feel what Xactley is saying. From a logical perspective a person would think to himself "Damn, the quantize aint there and the Per item FX aint there. And we waited all this time for version 2 ???" Im just as impatient as he is. It gets you to thinking "Were gonna have to wait for these for another year until 3 comes out to get these features." So dont bash the man. All of us have pride in Reaper. If not we wouldnt be the least bit upset when our upgrade isnt in the upgrade. I just hope they most requested features come soon and dont take a year.(Freeze, Per item FX, Input quantize).
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Woot! Great update! I'm behind in times...just FR'ed changable TCP fonts...now gotta delete that thread!


A few bugs :
-I don't know whats up with the midi track. Previously, guru and Reaper would sync, but now it doesnt. It plays at will.

-Midi notes dont play the right events in the VST...editor seems to be messed up...
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for those that havent bothered to read the ENTIRE changelog, here it is:

v2.0 beta 0 - FORUM ONLY BUILD - September 3 2007
+ new about screen
+ mixer: optional FX and Send views (configurable via the mixer menu)
+ mixer: more settings are now stored in the project
+ mixer: options are now assignable actions
+ mixer: state refreshed on project load (to project settings)
+ mixer: new FX/send views are themeable (mcp_fxlist_norm/byp/off/empty, mcp_master_fxlist_ too)
+ master track: can now have more than 2 channels
+ master track: can now control source channels/phase/volume/pan/etc of each hardware output independently
+ master track: better RMS metering, lots of RMS display options
+ automation: added option prefs/editing/"Automatically add/arm envelopes when tweaking parameters in write modes"
+ JS: PDC support for effects (pdc_bot_ch and pdc_top_ch to specify channels, pdc_delay to specify sample delay)
+ JS: added play_state, play_position, and beat_position variables
+ JS: added time_adjustment which allows delay/predelaying signal
+ JS: added autopeakfilter for fun autowah type effects
+ screensets: fixed docker issues
+ screensets: added mixer flags saving
+ screensets: added last focused window state saving
+ fx: comment window is now modeless
+ fx: added vertical scrollbar to comment window
+ fx: you can now rename instances of effects to better describe their application
+ fx: action to build multichannel routing for the output of multichannel VSTis
+ fx: action to build 16 channels of midi routing for the current track
+ editing: fixed cutting items in ripple all mode
+ editing: split items at loop selection selects only items in selection (not unsplit previously selected items)
+ editing: apply fx to new take now works on empty items
+ editing: better zoom from scrollbar when zoom set to center on mouse cursor
+ editing: enabled zoom out to see more than a few hours
+ editing: better envelope behavior in item moving and ripple editing
+ theming: faster drawing, faster mouseover updating
+ theming: background for faders, window backgrounds, name backgrounds, etc support pink line for unstretch areas
+ theming: docker is now independently colorthemeable
+ theming: new default colortheme (by WhiteTie!)
+ theming: support for when path to theme dir changes on diff systems
+ theming: advanced faders can have zero line set
+ theming: configurable fonts for track panels / volpan labels etc -- keyman sam look here!
+ theming: track_fxempty_h and track_fxempty_v
+ theming: window drawing improvements (less screen corruption issues)
+ theming: fixed stopped resize of transport drawing issues
+ theming: fixed some playspeed automation refresh issues
+ midi editor: fixed a bug with play cursor and lengthy looped midi items
+ midi editor: colortheme settings in prefs (including for piano keys etc)
+ midi editor: better vertical scrollbar
+ track I/O dialog: fixed labelling on hardware outs after adding routing
+ faster dB unit conversion throughout
+ reacomp/reaxcomp: performance improvements
+ demo song: updated mix
+ Monkey's Audio: fix for Unicode files

i bolded the ones i found personally important. but theres alot of good stuff in here!
And being a very active beta tester myself along with the other beta testers who contributed to this build, I can assure people that there were way more things that were changed/fixed than what the changelog indicates. More items can definitely be added to this list.

Jason has pointed out the major change/fixes which are massive, but there were many more behind the scenes.

Shane
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