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Old 11-13-2017, 09:14 AM   #321
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My Faderport arrived today, so I'd just like to say thanks to everyone who has been a part of making this happen
FP1 or FP8? Either way congrats, I value mine so much I'm considering ordering one as a backup.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:18 AM   #322
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FP1 or FP8? Either way congrats, I value mine so much I'm considering ordering one as a backup.
FP1. My girlfriend would get far too suspicious if I had an FP8 on my desk that is supposed to be making me a living from graphics work

Not got the fx fader control working yet though, even though I've added the lines in the .ini file and reset the FP. Any ideas? How about controlling fx parameter envelope lanes? Can't get that going either. I've read the readme, is there anywhere with more in-depth documentation?
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Derp. Figured it out. I had the .ini file in the plugins folder instead of the REAPER folder.
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FP1 or FP8? Either way congrats, I value mine so much I'm considering ordering one as a backup.
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FP1. My girlfriend would get far too suspicious if I had an FP8 on my desk that is supposed to be making me a living from graphics work

Not got the fx fader control working yet though, even though I've added the lines in the .ini file and reset the FP. Any ideas? How about controlling fx parameter envelope lanes? Can't get that going either. I've read the readme, is there anywhere with more in-depth documentation?
I handed the code off before the fx envelope support was added and I never got around to updating (just make sure faderport XT is the one selected in control surfaces and completly disabled in midi devices). I have a copy of that later code but never had time to look. One reason is my original code has some custom code I wrote that turns my studio lights Red/Green/White based on record/play/stop and haven't taken the time to forward port that code into the latest version.
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Hmmm... still not able to record fx envelopes. I had imagined the fader would control whatever was selected, as the cc faders on my midi controller keyboard do.
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Hmmm... still not able to record fx envelopes. I had imagined the fader would control whatever was selected, as the cc faders on my midi controller keyboard do.
Can you confirm some other INI assignment works? Say tell one of the buttons to run some arbitrary action so we know the right driver is loaded and is consuming the INI file. You'll likely need to reload the control surface (in control surfaces prefs) or restart reaper so it knows to load any INI config changes FYI.
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Can you confirm some other INI assignment works? Say tell one of the buttons to run some arbitrary action so we know the right driver is loaded and is consuming the INI file. You'll likely need to reload the control surface (in control surfaces prefs) or restart reaper so it knows to load any INI config changes FYI.
Yeah, the change to the .ini file changed the shift-bank fx parameter behaviour. I can use channel select to select fx in the chain and pan selects fx parameters and the fader controls the value. The one thing I can't figure out is how to record that - selecting the envelope stops this working. I'm sure I'm just being dense...
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Yeah, the change to the .ini file changed the shift-bank fx parameter behaviour. I can use channel select to select fx in the chain and pan selects fx parameters and the fader controls the value. The one thing I can't figure out is how to record that - selecting the envelope stops this working. I'm sure I'm just being dense...
As smart is I tend to 'think' I am (and that's pushing it lol), I've never used the newer bits so I simply don't know the answer.
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As smart is I tend to 'think' I am (and that's pushing it lol), I've never used the newer bits so I simply don't know the answer.
Hehe... No problem

I'm sure Nimaj or someone else will chime in at some point and set me straight.
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Hehe... No problem

I'm sure Nimaj or someone else will chime in at some point and set me straight.
I haven't heard from him in a while. The code is OSS: https://github.com/TheNimaj/Faderport_XT - If he commented it well the answer may be easy to find in code - you shouldn't need to download and can just browse it from the github site. You could also email him as I think this email addy is in the first post.
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I figured it out eventually! It was a mixture of read/write mode, envelope focus and which envelopes were set to record. It was just a bit complicated after being used to super-quick midi learn with cc faders & knobs.

Having the transport controls alone is sooooo nice! Very happy with my purchase
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I figured it out eventually! It was a mixture of read/write mode, envelope focus and which envelopes were set to record. It was just a bit complicated after being used to super-quick midi learn with cc faders & knobs.

Having the transport controls alone is sooooo nice! Very happy with my purchase
Excellent, yes, I'd be totally like a fish out of water without the faderport - not sure about Mac but the other thing I like is it is completely removed and impervious to application/OS focus and so on, meaning even if my machine auto-locks due to inactivity, but reaper is still playing audio (which happens if I loop a mix and listen to it for awhile), I can just use transport (or any other button/action combo) on the FP and not have to login and bring focus to reaper to hit stop and so on.
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Excellent, yes, I'd be totally like a fish out of water without the faderport - not sure about Mac but the other thing I like is it is completely removed and impervious to application/OS focus and so on, meaning even if my machine auto-locks due to inactivity, but reaper is still playing audio (which happens if I loop a mix and listen to it for awhile), I can just use transport (or any other button/action combo) on the FP and not have to login and bring focus to reaper to hit stop and so on.
Yep, application focus has no effect on functionality here, too. Especially cool for changing gain/routing/fx in my interface software while still having control over REAPER with the faderport.

Shame it seems that sends can't be automated with it, but I can use the rotary encoders on my Axiom for that
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Shame it seems that sends can't be automated with it, but I can use the rotary encoders on my Axiom for that
Same here I have a Axiom or two lying around.
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Can someone help me get this working. I have a new Faderport 8 with firmware 1.10 and cannot get the Faderport XT thing working. It only works in Mackie Control mode.

I have installed the dll and the ini file to the correct folder.
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Can someone help me get this working. I have a new Faderport 8 with firmware 1.10 and cannot get the Faderport XT thing working. It only works in Mackie Control mode.

I have installed the dll and the ini file to the correct folder.
All of the FaderportXT versions were written against Faderport 1, I have no idea what works or doesn't for FP8.
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All of the FaderportXT versions were written against Faderport 1, I have no idea what works or doesn't for FP8.
Oh then I have misunderstood. I thought the XT version was for FP8.
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Oh then I have misunderstood. I thought the XT version was for FP8.
It would be cool if someone looked into it. I handed the code off a couple of years ago and haven't looked at it in ages.
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I am a programmer (albeit mostly Java these days) but I'd be willing to give it a go.

Just wonder how much time it would need though.

What do i need to get started?
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I am a programmer (albeit mostly Java these days) but I'd be willing to give it a go.

Just wonder how much time it would need though.

What do i need to get started?
If you go to the very first post, there is a GitHub link with all the code. I considered poking around but I'm useless without an FP8 to test with. If you decide to look, the item of importance I see is it's best if whomever updates, can compile for both Mac and PC - that's one reason I handed off as I had no way to compile for Mac.

You should be able to download and compile in Visual Studio for PC at least if you want to poke around and see. If you use the free version of VS, MFC support doesn't come with it so you may have to do some additional installs to get it to compile - that code needs MFC because that's what the settings dialog is built on IIRC. If it doesn't compile, report back with the errors and I 'may' know how to get it compiling.
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Ok, i will see.

I need to get familiar with what works and what doesn't. At the moment, there seems to be quite a bit working out of the box using the Mackie Control.

Then there's a time aspect ...i'm in the middle of an album production that will be ongoing until at least March.
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Ok, i will see.

I need to get familiar with what works and what doesn't. At the moment, there seems to be quite a bit working out of the box using the Mackie Control.

Then there's a time aspect ...i'm in the middle of an album production that will be ongoing until at least March.
Yep, in the middle of a similar project so I know what you mean. Since all the buttons/fader commands hit the code as a packet of hex data, my assumption is that it is similar to what it was before but now potentially carries a byte that tells which fader index or something but not sure not having an FP8.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:34 AM   #344
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I have tested the default Mackie Control and it works pretty well.

I am also testing the Klinke Mackie Control and it works also pretty well albeit some differences that could be made to work better and some missing things that work with the original controller but don't with the Klinke.

I have noticed some buttons on the Faderport 8 do not trigger any midi codes. Presumably, these are device driven and specifically for Studio One?

I am loathe to dig in and create a specific Faderport 8 interface to Reaper because it will create expectations and requests and I would have to implement stuff I'd never personally use as well as document everything. All I want to do is focus on my album right now.
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I have noticed some buttons on the Faderport 8 do not trigger any midi codes. Presumably, these are device driven and specifically for Studio One?
Likely there is just no code written to handle whatever those commands are being sent by the device.

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But you'd be hero. I agree though, I've spent decades programming, I won't even write a simple script for Reaper for my own needs because I have a fairly strict policy of keeping my computer/programming life separate from my music making live.
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Likely there is just no code written to handle whatever those commands are being sent by the device.



But you'd be hero. I agree though, I've spent decades programming, I won't even write a simple script for Reaper for my own needs because I have a fairly strict policy of keeping my computer/programming life separate from my music making live.

I tested with a MIDI input capture program...nothing happens when i press certain buttons.

Yeah, my day job is coding!
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I tested with a MIDI input capture program...nothing happens when i press certain buttons.

Yeah, my day job is coding!
I'd just get VS compiling, toss the compiled dll in the user plugins folder, fire up reaper, then attach the visual studio debugger to reaper.exe. If you now set a breakpoint at the main incoming data function in the code, the breakpoint will hit when you press the button, then you just look at the incoming value to figure it all out. I'm not sure if you would see this via MIDI capture program.

That's precisely how I coded the majority of FaderPortXT minus what was done before I showed up.
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I'd just get VS compiling, toss the compiled dll in the user plugins folder, fire up reaper, then attach the visual studio debugger to reaper.exe. If you now set a breakpoint at the main incoming data function in the code, the breakpoint will hit when you press the button, then you just look at the incoming value to figure it all out. I'm not sure if you would see this via MIDI capture program.

That's precisely how I coded the majority of FaderPortXT minus what was done before I showed up.
Thanks. I will try and get time to take a look at it.

I figured out what the problem was. On the FP8 there are 3 modes...Studio One , MCU and HUI...if you enable MCU (Mackie) some buttons have no function and do no send any codes.

I am testing now in Studio One mode to see what goes wrong. Maybe i just remap what I need.
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Thanks. I will try and get time to take a look at it.

I figured out what the problem was. On the FP8 there are 3 modes...Studio One , MCU and HUI...if you enable MCU (Mackie) some buttons have no function and do no send any codes.

I am testing now in Studio One mode to see what goes wrong. Maybe i just remap what I need.
I now have the Faderport 8 manual which has the Studio One mode midi mappings, I will include a starter map for the Faderport 8 in the project mentioned in my sig below.
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Thanks, will have a look!

I am a developer but i've no experience with this stuff but I would gladly help out as long as I don't have to start from the ground up.
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So I got a Presonus Faderport for Christmas and I love it but most of its functionality is lost in Reaper. Thereís been some discussion on it on the Cockos forum, a way to add some functionality but Iím having some difficulty with it, and itís not really what I had in mind.

What I had in mind was something Iíve put together from my Reaper setup, something Iíve refined over the years to be useful. Iíve developed all the Reaper end of things - scripts and macros and such - but Iím lost when it comes to getting the Faderport to work. Not even sure if my ideas are possible (which is why this is getting posted on the Presonus page, theyíd know the hardware).

The two biggest obstacles are: using the knob to change whatever parameter the mouse is hovering over, and using the Mix, Project, and Trns buttons as keyboard shift, CTRL, and ALT respectively.

If someone were able to get that working I could provide the rest of the work.

The crux of the idea is to have three modes: Track, Edit, and Mix. The modes are selected by shift and mute, solo, or rec. While most buttons remain the same in any mode, some change to tools appropriate with the mode. Each button can also be modified by the shift, CTRL, and ALT buttons giving four values for each button per mode.
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So I got a Presonus Faderport for Christmas and I love it but most of its functionality is lost in Reaper. Thereís been some discussion on it on the Cockos forum, a way to add some functionality but Iím having some difficulty with it, and itís not really what I had in mind.

What I had in mind was something Iíve put together from my Reaper setup, something Iíve refined over the years to be useful. Iíve developed all the Reaper end of things - scripts and macros and such - but Iím lost when it comes to getting the Faderport to work. Not even sure if my ideas are possible (which is why this is getting posted on the Presonus page, theyíd know the hardware).

The two biggest obstacles are: using the knob to change whatever parameter the mouse is hovering over, and using the Mix, Project, and Trns buttons as keyboard shift, CTRL, and ALT respectively.

If someone were able to get that working I could provide the rest of the work.

The crux of the idea is to have three modes: Track, Edit, and Mix. The modes are selected by shift and mute, solo, or rec. While most buttons remain the same in any mode, some change to tools appropriate with the mode. Each button can also be modified by the shift, CTRL, and ALT buttons giving four values for each button per mode.
Great to see someone else with the Faderport 8.

I am waiting to see what Geoff comes up with in the upcoming weeks before i settle on anything.

I am using it mostly to control volumes and automation curves as well as reassigning some of the buttons to a few actions and am quite happy with it at the moment.

One of the great things that is working with the default MCU controller is that you can hide tracks in the MCP and the Faderport will remove them from its view. This is sadly missing from the MCU "klinke" controller despite having many other improvments with the FP's visual display.
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Hey Inertia, thanks for the reply. Only one issue...
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Great to see someone else with the Faderport 8.
I don't have an 8, just a regular Faderport. That being said, I'm sure the tech end of the gear is similar. As for Reaper, I can certainly offer my design to be modified for the 8, and the scripts would be easily adjusted.

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I am waiting to see what Geoff comes up with in the upcoming weeks before i settle on anything.
What is Geoff coming up with?
(I know, I know... read the thread!)

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So I've been doing a little work and I've figured out how to get the Faderport to switch to different modes.

My questions now are more hardware oriented. Are the buttons all assignable? Also, can you change their behavior? That is, making the shift button act like a regular button and making the Mix, Proj, and Trns buttons act like keyboard shift, CTRL, and ALT respectively.

Also, in Reaper, is there a action trigger condition for mouse over? I know Reaper is sensitive to that, the tool tips change on mouse over. I'm thinking that you could use that in conjunction with the 'pan' knob to make it a universal value knob for any parameter moused over.

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Hey Inertia, thanks for the reply. Only one issue...

I don't have an 8, just a regular Faderport. That being said, I'm sure the tech end of the gear is similar. As for Reaper, I can certainly offer my design to be modified for the 8, and the scripts would be easily adjusted.


What is Geoff coming up with?
(I know, I know... read the thread!)

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Haha dammit, I need to remind myself that the XT thread is for the single volume Faderport.

Geoff will be adding the FP8 midi commands while the device is set in Studio One mode meaning all the buttons will be usable for future use in Reaper. Using MCU mode has a limited number of buttons. I assume to remain compatibile with the Mackie Controller.

You can test if all the buttons are assignable by going to the action list and pressing the buttons while editing an actions keypress. If you get a response from the controller it will appear in the shortcut text box. You can quickly test all your buttons and assign them to a custom action in the interim.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:27 AM   #356
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One issue:
When grouping eg. solo for two tracks,
wanting to toggle between them,
Faderport solo does not work on the group
(so unable to use the faderport to toggle)
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:06 PM   #357
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Hi guys, I haven't been using Faderport very long.
The Off button in Fader Mode doesn't work for me. It doesn't light up, doesn't latch and doesn't disengage the fader.
Read, Write and Touch work fine, but the fader is always active on the selected channel(s), which of course is easily bumped accidentally.
Any tips on how I can fix this?
Presonus support just points me back to this thread
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:26 PM   #358
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I tried a workaround. I went to Actions and set shortcut keys for 'Set volume for selected track' and 'Set volume for Track 1', figuring that I could assign the fader to Track 1, in this case a muted ,unnecessary track, when I wasn't using it for automation or level adjustment, but that didn't work either. The Faderport fader controls volume of the selected track no matter what.
I've tested the Faderport in Studio One and it works perfectly, so the unit isn't faulty. Otherwise,I have nothing to go on here at all. Presonus support doesn't give me a direct answer, just directs me to this thread.

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Old 04-22-2018, 03:46 PM   #359
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Most of my tracks were in Trim/Read mode. Didn't make much difference to me before I got the Faderport, but I've set them to Read mode now for safety, just change them when needed.
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:44 AM   #360
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Hi guys, I haven't been using Faderport very long.
The Off button in Fader Mode doesn't work for me. It doesn't light up, doesn't latch and doesn't disengage the fader.
Read, Write and Touch work fine, but the fader is always active on the selected channel(s), which of course is easily bumped accidentally.
Any tips on how I can fix this?
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