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12-31-2017, 09:16 AM
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Reaper seems to operate in a random way to me. I held shift to select all tracks at once but it only selected half of them. I then tried to select the rest but it then just selects the other half and deselects the first lot. I then held control and clicked on 2 tracks and then deselected them by clicking in empty space and tried shift again to select all but it now resolutely only selects the 2 tracks I clicked with control. How can you have a workflow with this nonsense going on
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12-31-2017, 09:23 AM
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Ctrl-A to select all tracks. Shift only selects multiple tracks.
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12-31-2017, 09:28 AM
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I just and did exactly what you said you did and it worked just fine, including playing with control, click.
Without wishing to offend, did you actually get the free user guide and have a look around in it? Also there are some excellent free video tutorials that will help you get in the swing of things quicker.
At this stage, assuming you are actually clicking on the actual tracks where the information is contained rather than the control section of the TCP, I`m wondering if you either deliberately or accidentally tweaked something you didnt need to.
The quickest and easiest way to check that you didn`t is to re-download Reaper and when you open the .exe file to install, check the portable install box. This will install a brand new version of reaper without anything you may have changed - if it is still misbehaving, there is also an option to start reaper using only the factory default settings.
BUT if you use that, you will lose any configuration changes you may have made.
Hopefully one or the other will point you in the right direction to fix this, but in any case let us know how you get on.
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01-03-2018, 10:16 AM
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OK thanks it seems to be working ok, maybe I'm the random element, or my finger is. Cheers
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01-03-2018, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisBlue
OK thanks it seems to be working ok, maybe I'm the random element, or my finger is. Cheers
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The modifier key + click behaviors are generally standardized across most apps and OS's. Meaning...
CTRL+Click: Select multiple non-contiguous objects - in this case you can select tracks 1, 3 and 5 without selecting 2 and 4 by holding down control and clicking each track you want included. If you click one that is already included, then CTRL+Click removes it from the selection.
SHIFT+Click: Select multiple *contiguous* objects. For example you have 20 tracks but only want to select tracks 5 through 15. Click track 5 then SHIFT+Click track 15. There is a side behavior where it will select the inverse if you jump around which is what you were seeing.
CTRL+A: Select all of whatever it is regardless.
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01-03-2018, 10:47 AM
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I find that shift-click works fine if you go from top-to-bottom, but not bottom-to-top. Not sure why, I'll have to test it later...
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01-03-2018, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Judders
I find that shift-click works fine if you go from top-to-bottom, but not bottom-to-top. Not sure why, I'll have to test it later...
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I would call that bug but it seems to work here.
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01-03-2018, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by karbomusic
I would call that bug but it seems to work here.
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Ah, no.
It's if I have several tracks selected and then shift-click another track. It selected all above the previously selected tracks, which isn't intuitive to me.
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01-03-2018, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Judders
Ah, no.
It's if I have several tracks selected and then shift-click another track. It selected all above the previously selected tracks, which isn't intuitive to me.
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Correct. Works that way everywhere not just reaper. I'll show you in other apps and the OS if you want me to assuming I didn't misread but shift click is first to last and "first" changes when you go to do that third click regardless of what intuition wants it to do Now if different on Mac in general can't help you there but from a historical standpoint shift-click = first to last - better stated previous to current click. Btw in your example you want to change to CTRL+Click to add it to the existing selection.
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Last edited by karbomusic; 01-03-2018 at 03:35 PM.
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01-03-2018, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by karbomusic
Correct. Works that way everywhere not just reaper. I'll show you in other apps and the OS if you want me to assuming I didn't misread but shift click is first to last and "first" changes when you go to do that third click regardless of what intuition wants it to do Now if different on Mac in general can't help you there but from a historical standpoint shift-click = first to last - better stated previous to current click. Btw in your example you want to change to CTRL+Click to add it to the existing selection.
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Yeah, just me being dumb. Feels like it should work.
CNTRL/CMD-click is fine, but only selects one track at a time.
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01-03-2018, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Judders
Yeah, just me being dumb. Feels like it should work.
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You know, I know how it works from having the same confusion. I got used to it though from experiencing when selecting files in the OS for all these years.
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CNTRL/CMD-click is fine, but only selects one track at a time.
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Yea, it's not bad once it's solidified that CTRL = non-contiguous and SHIFT = contiguous. There is also ALT+Drag which in many text, code and other editors, allows vertical selection areas of text.
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