Old 08-07-2018, 10:04 AM   #1
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Default WINE File|Open menu issue

I'm running the 64 bit version of Xubuntu Bionic Beaver and have seen this now on two separate fresh installs. WINE installs and most stuff works, BUT any attempt to perform a Windows "File|Open" will instantly blow WINE up and terminate the Windows program.

Also, from digging around I found that just issuing the command "wine explorer", which ought to bring up a Windows Explorer, blows with the very same errors.

Anybody know what the cause/resolution is for this?

Here's an example of attempting to launch Windows Explorer:

$ wine explorer

wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address (nil) (thread 003b), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x00000000 in 32-bit code (0x00000000).
Register dump:
CS:0023 SS:002b DS:002b ES:002b FS:006b GS:0063
EIP:00000000 ESP:0032f6bc EBP:0032f708 EFLAGS:00010202( R- -- I - - - )
EAX:00000000 EBX:7ed45ec8 ECX:00000000 EDX:0015fc24
ESI:00000001 EDI:7fb420b8
Stack dump:
0x0032f6bc: 7ecc0b42 0016d5d0 7fb420b8 0015fc24
0x0032f6cc: 00000000 00165160 00110000 00000002
0x0032f6dc: 0015fc24 ffffffff 0016de08 0016d5d0
0x0032f6ec: 33d7b300 0032f794 7ecc0a96 0032f720
0x0032f6fc: 7fb4af68 0032f794 0015fc10 0032fde8
0x0032f70c: 7fb3c29f 0001000f 00165160 0032f720
000d: sel=006f base=00000000 limit=00000000 16-bit r-x
Backtrace:
=>0 0x00000000 (0x0032f708)
1 0x7fb3c29f (0x0032fde8)
2 0x7fb3f72f (0x0032fe88)
3 0x7fb3f63f (0x0032feb8)
4 0x7b461a7c in kernel32 (+0x51a7b) (0x0032fed8)
5 0x7b4634ce in kernel32 (+0x534cd) (0x0032ffd8)
6 0x7b461a8a in kernel32 (+0x51a89) (0x0032ffec)
0x00000000: -- no code accessible --
Modules:
Module Address Debug info Name (16 modules)
PE 71590000-71617000 Deferred comctl32
PE 77f60000-77fd6000 Deferred shlwapi
PE 7b410000-7b5b6000 Export kernel32
PE 7bc10000-7bc14000 Deferred ntdll
PE 7eb70000-7eb73000 Deferred usp10
PE 7ebc0000-7ebc4000 Deferred msvcrt
PE 7ec70000-7edd2000 Deferred shell32
PE 7f230000-7f234000 Deferred winex11
PE 7f2d0000-7f2f8000 Deferred ole32
PE 7f410000-7f414000 Deferred imm32
PE 7f720000-7f727000 Deferred gdi32
PE 7f850000-7f916000 Deferred user32
PE 7fa30000-7fa34000 Deferred advapi32
PE 7fab0000-7fab4000 Deferred rpcrt4
PE 7fb20000-7fb25000 Deferred explorer
PE 7ffd0000-7ffd4000 Deferred version
Threads:
process tid prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 stockmonitor.exe
00000009 0
0000000e services.exe
00000022 0
0000001d 0
00000013 0
00000010 0
0000000f 0
00000011 winedevice.exe
0000001c 0
00000017 0
00000016 0
00000012 0
0000001a plugplay.exe
0000001f 0
0000001e 0
0000001b 0
00000020 winedevice.exe
00000029 0
00000024 0
00000023 0
00000021 0
00000027 explorer.exe
0000002c 0
0000002b 0
0000002a 0
00000028 0
0000002d VDFDAEMON.EXE
0000002f -1
0000002e 0
00000039 (D) C:\windows\system32\explorer.exe
0000003b 0 <==
System information:
Wine build: wine-3.0 (Ubuntu 3.0-1ubuntu1)
Platform: i386
Version: Windows XP
Host system: Linux
Host version: 4.15.0-30-generic
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:49 AM   #2
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So everyone but me can open a terminal window and issue the command,

wine explorer

and it works?

Did you install more than just wine-stable or devel versions? I've tried both and got the same results.

I even installed the Windows version of REAPER and it closes instantly for me if I simply click "File|Open". I can drag a song onto it and it loads it OK though.

Same thing with Winamp. Drag-n-Drop works, but "Play|File" vaporizes.
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That sounds like some error on your system, don't think that can be regarded as normal at all. In fact I've never personally seen that behaviour.. Maybe some packaging error, check with your distro support?
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:01 AM   #4
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That sounds like some error on your system, don't think that can be regarded as normal at all. In fact I've never personally seen that behaviour.. Maybe some packaging error, check with your distro support?
I'm using the package that is native to Xubuntu, and I've seen the exact same behavior twice on new installs. Should I kill the native one and try installing the one from Wine-HQ?
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:15 AM   #5
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You can try, though I'm not familiar with the details of xubuntu and what the winehq one does (maybe be careful about your package manager). FWIW, wine explorer works fine on my system.
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You can try, though I'm not familiar with the details of xubuntu and what the winehq one does (maybe be careful about your package manager). FWIW, wine explorer works fine on my system.
Thanks for the input. I may leave it as is, because I've got a lot of Windows plugins working just fine. It was a sampler that I installed that first alerted me to the "File|Open" problem.

Interesting thing is, if the software doesn't use native Windows file browsing, then it will work. The 16-channel soundfont player VSTi "Phenome" lets me navigate to files, but uses it's own file browsing. Same thing with a programming editor I use and a visual programming language for Windows. It's only when calls are made through the native Windows .dll that does file browsing, and those will vaporize the program or plugin instantly.
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:34 AM   #7
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If a certain hardware or software does not run under Linux, contact the appropriate manufacturer.
The "do not support under Linux" is a very old problem.

Maybe it'll change things. ;-)
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If a certain hardware or software does not run under Linux, contact the appropriate manufacturer.
The "do not support under Linux" is a very old problem.

Maybe it'll change things. ;-)
Well, that wine can't run the explorer application it bundles, seems to indicate a distro problem
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Yeah. Not directly related to the problem. SRY ;-)
Meaning only generally one could also ask times. LV2, VST3 ... . :-)
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I'm running the 64 bit version of Xubuntu Bionic Beaver and have seen this now on two separate fresh installs. WINE installs and most stuff works, BUT any attempt to perform a Windows "File|Open" will instantly blow WINE up and terminate the Windows program.
So I now know how this functionality got corrupted.

Using WineTricks, I added "Comctrl32" for an old NNTP newsgroup reader, but there is a bug in WineTricks that adds a global override for the Comctrl32 it downloaded. Removing the global override and leaving only the override for the program that actually needed it seems to have fixed the issue for me. It sure was was a bitch to isolate.
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Congratulations! I had no idea how to help you with this..

You do know that you can use different wineprefixes for different programs?
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Congratulations! I had no idea how to help you with this..

You do know that you can use different wineprefixes for different programs?
I knew that you could, but never tried it since I've only got about five Windows programs that I haven't replaced with Linux versions. They all work, but use their own file browsers. It was trying a Windows sampler in REAPER that made me aware that Windows Explorer calls for file browsing were screwed up.
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:34 AM   #13
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You can install the Winehq versions by the way, just in case you want/need to. It works fine fur *buntu distros and should automatically remove the distro version you have already installed.
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You can install the Winehq versions by the way, just in case you want/need to. It works fine fur *buntu distros and should automatically remove the distro version you have already installed.
I am in fact now using the WineHQ repo. It was one of the diagnostics that finally revealed that WineTricks had added a global override when adding a Windows .dll or component.

My kid and I went through the process of setting up a Wineprefix from WineHQ's repository. It didn't initially exhibit the issue of vaporizing apps on a File|Open, but after having WineTricks grab comctrl32 for use with one single app that needed it, suddenly all apps would blow on a File|Open. Backtracking led to the addition of an unnecessary global override that was made by WineTricks. Clearing that corrected the issue, but I left the WineHQ repository setup, so I should be getting updated from them from now on if I understand it all correctly.
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