ReaMote + REAPER

Justin · 03-27-2018, 05:07 PM

Just curious -- does anybody use ReaMote? If we removed it would you be sad? Do tell!

Studiodawg · 03-27-2018, 06:23 PM

Do you use it? I guess I'm just ignorant of what it even does...

Justin · 03-27-2018, 06:27 PM

Not so much in the last 8 years...

SonicAxiom · 03-27-2018, 06:35 PM

I'd be fairly sad!

Philbo King · 03-27-2018, 06:58 PM

I've never tried it. Might be handy for realy big projects, I guess.

Justin · 03-27-2018, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SonicAxiom

I'd be fairly sad!

So you use it? Or you like the idea of it?

SonicAxiom · 03-27-2018, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin

So you use it? Or you like the idea of it?

both

and I like the idea of it being optimized by you in the future

I have adopted audio networking (Dante) in my studio, I'm using CopperLan for MIDI networking and I see a lot of potential in networking other tasks (like fx processing). ReaMote does not work with all my plugins unfortunately - for various reasons (licensing, compatability, ???). Would be great if some of the issues could be fixed to make it even more useful.

Is it inevitable that both machines need to have the plugins installed at the same location? If there was a way to simply outsource the calculation to the helping computer. Couldn't it just load the plugin files into its ram via the network connection to remotely make use of them?

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Arionas · 10-18-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin

Just curious -- does anybody use ReaMote? If we removed it would you be sad? Do tell!

Justin please, don't remove ReaMote.
It's a huge cpu saver for my daily professional works in the studio.

davewah · 11-26-2018, 06:21 AM

Hello Justin, Networked audio has been great for me in the Live world and I'd like it in my studio too. Dante is common Live and available from Focusrite for the studio. I like the look of Waves Soundgrid for the studio but that's not supported by Reaper. Do you think Reaper will support Soundgrid asp?

I run Reaper just now on an RME Hammerfall ASIO system, I've used Pro Tools, Cubase and Logic but I think I prefer Reaper, great program. So why Soundgrid and not REAmote. A very useful range of I/O boxes and format converters. Plus the appearance of Cards for Digital Mixers. I do a lot live sound work and Plugins are making more of an appearance in that world. And it gets a bit boring moving from USB, to Firewire, to Thunderbolt, to USB-C etc.....If it's all on an RJ45 life is better.

I'd really really like to stay on Reaper but moving to a Network audio system that has off the shelf hardware I/O available is probably going to become to tempting....

srdmusic · 05-20-2019, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin

Just curious -- does anybody use ReaMote? If we removed it would you be sad? Do tell!

Please don't remove it. I just now discovered it and it's one of the most genius parts of Reaper you guys have come up with.

oblh · 06-26-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Justin

Just curious -- does anybody use ReaMote? If we removed it would you be sad? Do tell!

Yes I would be very sad! I am just a little step to purchase reaper after testing and can tell ReaMote is the last thing I discovered with wau in my mind. Immi I took advantage of this as I was just about to buy new PC (I have weak CPU). I was depressed as it means new MB, then new RAMs etc, licenses transfer, firewire no longer supported (new audio interface?)..and suddenly I discovered ReaMote, just plugged my old PC laying around and vuala! No need to buy anything! I admit I have problems to use Waves plugs and other iLok stuff, but still. I can at least lave my non Waves chains! And maybe time to switch from Waves to other devs which support more to endless licenses (Hornet for example). With that kind of plugins and ReaMote I can even do a hemendex in Reaper for next 10 years

Please do not remove ReaMote

It just makes Reaper even more special (even if I thought it's not possible after previous testing

I agree to think oposite, maybe improve it and it will really take reaper to the new era

just my 2cents. Thanks!

oblh · 07-23-2019, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by oblh

Yes I would be very sad! I am just a little step to purchase reaper after testing and can tell ReaMote is the last thing I discovered with wau in my mind. Immi I took advantage of this as I was just about to buy new PC (I have weak CPU). I was depressed as it means new MB, then new RAMs etc, licenses transfer, firewire no longer supported (new audio interface?)..and suddenly I discovered ReaMote, just plugged my old PC laying around and vuala! No need to buy anything! I admit I have problems to use Waves plugs and other iLok stuff, but still. I can at least lave my non Waves chains! And maybe time to switch from Waves to other devs which support more to endless licenses (Hornet for example). With that kind of plugins and ReaMote I can even do a hemendex in Reaper for next 10 years

Please do not remove ReaMote

It just makes Reaper even more special (even if I thought it's not possible after previous testing

I agree to think oposite, maybe improve it and it will really take reaper to the new era

just my 2cents. Thanks!

Jupii, finally managed to complete the purchase

Hope ReaMote will stay with "us"

Cheers!

Win Conway · 07-23-2019, 05:54 PM

Just sell the multiple computers and buy a single faster one, this tech was useful a long time ago, not so much now, again if it worked with Kontakt then yeah, all over it, but it doesn't, remove it, move on.

picophone · 07-23-2019, 06:38 PM

Intel has 32 core processors now. They will be increasing this over the next decade as the can't make the transistors any smaller. The atoms are almost touching! Multiple cores on one system will out-perform a network, so ya... ReaMote seems obsolete.

mschnell · 07-23-2019, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gpunk_w

this tech was useful a long time ago, not so much now,

Nonsense !
Computers gets faster, but the demands get bigger at at least the same rate.

Hence the need for distributing workload on several even more powerful boxes will not fade.

-Michael

picophone · 07-24-2019, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mschnell

Nonsense !
Computers gets faster, but the demands get bigger at at least the same rate.

Hence the need for distributing workload on several even more powerful boxes will not fade.

-Michael

Respectfully, that's not quite accurate. There was a time when having 48 tracks required syncing two $200,000 machines. 10 years later a room was replaces by a single desktop that could do 96 tracks. I think the main point is ReaMote is hindering the speed and efficiency of Reaper and the benefits of removing it would outweigh the losses.

denork · 07-24-2019, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gpunk_w

Just sell the multiple computers and buy a single faster one, this tech was useful a long time ago, not so much now, again if it worked with Kontakt then yeah, all over it, but it doesn't, remove it, move on.

Well, it would be useful for me with AA / Nebula plugins if it weren't because it doesn't work as I would like, I guess it's obsolete.

JohnAngelo716 · 08-06-2019, 09:36 AM

I use reamote! It has saved my skin on a couple occasions when I had a big project and just needed a hair more available dsp. Please keep it!

Tower Studio · 11-08-2019, 06:24 PM

I don't know what the status is on this matter, but I found this thread after searching for help with ReaMote. I'm currently experimenting with it and actually got it to work so far and it's very much promising to make my life A LOT easier without too much hassle. I want to use it to run a couple of VERY CPU intensive mastering plugins. But I can't get any metering or visual feedback from the plugins (although all other controls work fine), which is so damn frustrating (and for mastering plugins I need metering). Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way to get those working that I overlooked? Even Cockos or JS plugins seem to have that problem here.

clepsydrae · 11-08-2019, 06:42 PM

IIRC reamote just uses the VST parameters of the local instance to control the remote instance (someone correct me if wrong). If you want the real GUI on your local machine, you might consider another solution. E.g. you can use remote desktop software to control/watch the remote plugins and then loop the audio out and back in as if it was an external hardware chain. I assume you'd have to correct for latency manually in that case.

mschnell · 11-08-2019, 11:12 PM

Very obviously only Audio and Midi is sent back from the Remotely running version of a plugin, but not any visual feedback that it gives in its GUI.

To see those remotely you would need to use Remote Desktop or some similar tool, which might be a little less handy, but supposedly doable.

In fact I vote for a new version of ReaMote that does not need to install the plugin on the local box, but only on the remote one, and hence do away with licensing and version/setup synchronization issues, but allow for configuring the remoted plugins via Remote Desktop (or similar).

(Independent of Reaper) I once did a program that allows for showing a rectangle on a remote boxes GUI in a window in a local box (based on the open source VNC protocol). Such tool - at best built into Reaper's ReaMote - would come handy here.

-Michael

kris.audioplanet · 12-17-2019, 03:45 AM

I am just beginning my foray into Reamote but I am definitely a client

kris.audioplanet · 12-17-2019, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tower Studio

I don't know what the status is on this matter, but I found this thread after searching for help with ReaMote. I'm currently experimenting with it and actually got it to work so far and it's very much promising to make my life A LOT easier without too much hassle. I want to use it to run a couple of VERY CPU intensive mastering plugins. But I can't get any metering or visual feedback from the plugins (although all other controls work fine), which is so damn frustrating (and for mastering plugins I need metering). Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way to get those working that I overlooked? Even Cockos or JS plugins seem to have that problem here.

As far as I know the metering doesn't work.

mschnell · 12-17-2019, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kris.audioplanet

As far as I know the metering doesn't work.

As the local GUI of the FX is completely decoupled from the remote FXes GUI, it can't.

Remoting the GUI is a completely additional task / protocol from remoting audio and Midi.

-Michael

Lefthander · 12-17-2019, 03:43 PM

I have moved to Reaper especially, but not primarily because of the reamote app. My only issue with it is it seems to disconnect the plugins when idle for more than a few seconds, or am I missing a setting or two. As someone else has said it would be nice if we didn't have to have the plugins on both machines as this can mean extra licences for some plugins.

TonE · 04-09-2020, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Justin

Just curious -- does anybody use ReaMote? If we removed it would you be sad? Do tell!

No, not me, not knowing even what it does or for what it is useful? Did anyone answer those questions in this thread?

Hellfog · 05-11-2020, 09:26 AM

Please update ReaMote

juan_r · 05-17-2020, 12:37 PM

+1 improve it, don't ditch it!

Absolutely. I've been a big fan of remoting CPU power/disk libraries for a long time. Remember FX Teleport anyone?

I am with @mschnell about the main point: having to have the very same plugin.version installed on both machines is the biggest hindrance. I personally don't mind having to Remote Desktop/VNC into the "slave" machine to access the plugin GUI, as long as the underlying system (Reaper in this case) handles the moving of audio/midi streams without the need for me to setup complex audio/midi send/return arrangements. Just an additional category "ReaMote" in the FX selection dialog. A dream!

I would be quite happy to have the "server" (slave) part of ReaMote decoupled into a separate program - basically a specialized VST/VSTi host with a specialized protocol to talk to the main "client" (master: Reaper). The protocol is already in place (great forward thinking, Justin, Schwa &co), and it works fine. Transferring the GUI to the master machine is a welcome plus, but entirely optional for my use case - as long as I don't need to have two machines with synchronized installs just to be able to execute a plugin remotely.

In other words: what I would really like now is a specialized ReaMote server that displays the GUI locally, without trying to show it on the client's screen. I think this would negate the need for synchronized installs, and it would provide us with a terrific tool for, e.g., large orchestral template setups or CPU-hungry fx like Nebula.

One can always hope...

mschnell · 05-17-2020, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by juan_r

Transferring the GUI to the master machine is a welcome plus, but entirely optional

I in fact once did a "transfer a rectangle of a remote GUI to a rectangle in my GUI" program by means of the free VNC protocol libraries. That was not hard to do, works in realtime and would allow for installing the plugin only on the remote engine and not locally.

-Michael

juan_r · 05-17-2020, 02:49 PM

... and the UI transfer could be shut down (spare LAN bandwidth) if the window is closed on the master.

Unfortunately, the TightVNC libs are licensed through GPL (v3 by default I think). Same goes for LibVNCServer/LibVNCClient, so they can't be used in commercial software without appropriate licensing.

EugenS · 05-23-2022, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin

Just curious -- does anybody use ReaMote? If we removed it would you be sad? Do tell!

I'm a beginner in Reaper although I've been working with DAWs since 1987.
For me that was a huge argument to watch Reaper.
I drive all computers to the top with big projects, mostly about tracks and plugins.
Meanwhile many people ask me why I try to do my new projects on Reaper...
There are a few arguments for this and one of them is ReaMote. With young people that I teach, it's all the virtual synths. Then there are some people who make film music, they often have a lot of virtual synths, a lot of tracks and use a lot of plugins at the same time.
Every time I show this to people they open their mouths...)))
I think this is a very brilliant idea! I would nurture that idea and use it to promote Reaper.
I myself now have to get along with the standard things in order to be able to continue working fluently and rethinking takes some time. After that I would like to try my hand at ReaMote, if there is one.
I don't know the effort and the problems associated with ReaMote and so I can't judge what that means for the programming team.
I'm repeating myself now but I would get it right and market that as an extra joker.
Most of my colleagues don't know Reape, let alone ReaMote, but many have a need for more CPU power.
I hope that I have contributed something to the consideration and decision.
(As always, please forgive my bad English)

Flemingsound · 12-01-2023, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin

Just curious -- does anybody use ReaMote? If we removed it would you be sad? Do tell!

Being Reaper no longer has Reamote, what are the chances of a plugin version coming out to connect to a reaper server over lan?

blumpy · 12-01-2023, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin

Just curious -- does anybody use ReaMote? If we removed it would you be sad? Do tell!

I would but it's too unreliable the few times I've tried to use it.

mschnell · 12-02-2023, 01:18 AM

IMHO, -> https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...7&postcount=82 still holds.
There are 3rd party solutions, but a Reaperish option would be very appropriate.