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11-08-2009, 02:21 PM
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#121
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I Agree, we need this.
+1
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11-08-2009, 02:27 PM
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#122
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there is a JS fx on my signature that does that,
called Delay_Pan
it even can delay one channel to make a wide stereo effect.
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11-09-2009, 07:45 PM
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#123
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallisman
Stereo Balance Panner controls the balance between the left and right channels.
This is the default mode.
- If you right-click in the pan control field for a (stereo) audio
channel, you can select one of three pan modes:
- If Stereo Dual Panner is selected, there will be two pan controls with the upper controlling pan for the left channel, and the lower controlling pan for the right channel. This allows you set pan independently for the left and right channels. Note that it is possible to reverse the left and right channels, i.e. the left channel can be panned to the right and vice versa. You can also “sum” two channels by setting them to the same pan position (i.e. mono) – note that this will increase the volume of the signal.
- If Stereo Combined Panner is selected, the left and right pan positions are shown as two lines with a blue/gray area between them. If you reverse the left and right channels, the area between the pan controls will be red instead of blue/gray.
yessir!
now that is what I'm talking about!
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yes, please add this feature. please!
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11-09-2009, 10:52 PM
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#124
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no steinberg ideas needed.
Please Cockos, if you're going to implement this, i trust your talent,
to make an unique feature.
i personally don't know what the rush to make such "built-in plugins" features.
you already can have in REAPER, any FX in the world as a built in, when you use the feature to put its controls, on the TCP.
EDIT: i think this is an un-necessary feature, as with a dedicated FX, you can get much more options.
but you can ask for a default track template, that will give you the result, and much more, you're asking for.
BTW: think of the CPU usage, before asking any built-in plugin feature.
Last edited by whatsup; 11-09-2009 at 11:04 PM.
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11-09-2009, 11:18 PM
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#125
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whatsup: you are forgetting sends, let's say one wants to pan only sends to the opposite sides from the track (R/L) ?
in reaper: one would have to make a new track, bus to that track, remove master/parent output from the new track,
put a plug-in on that new track (is pan law going to match reaper's setting? no!). the request is for a valuable feature.
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11-09-2009, 11:29 PM
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#126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whatsup
no steinberg ideas needed.
Please Cockos, if you're going to implement this, i trust your talent,
to make an unique feature.
i personally don't know what the rush to make such "built-in plugins" features.
you already can have in REAPER, any FX in the world as a built in, when you use the feature to put its controls, on the TCP.
EDIT: i think this is an un-necessary feature, as with a dedicated FX, you can get much more options.
but you can ask for a default track template, that will give you the result, and much more, you're asking for.
BTW: think of the CPU usage, before asking any built-in plugin feature.
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let's re-invent the wheel instead! It has cubendo colours so dump it outright! better yet let's not even add this wheel...
let us make sure that these essential tools remain hidden beneath a third-party plugin, out of sight of the MCP and TCP and behind at least an extra click or three.
hmmm forgive my snooty ass-in-view attitude. Fact: Reaper would be better with proper stereo panning capability. Reaper would be better off with at-a-glance-and-in-sight left and right controls. Save the TCP controls for other special case controls. And the beauty of the Steinberg implementation is that if you don't like it, you never have to use it nor see it.
boggles my mind that anyone could look at the power behind that simple implementation and say "meh!" But I guess I am spoiled, many men get used to compromise, but my wife is smoking (and she: is nice and kind, a good mommy, sexy, can cook, hot, brings home the bacon... is organized ...)
heheh
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11-09-2009, 11:45 PM
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#127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cerberus
put a plug-in on that new track .
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this is already, very easy to do, just one click.
Right-Click on the FX button, you can access all your FXs and FX chains.
with a FR for a Default track template, you won't even need this one click.
Sends can be Pre or Post FX, and if i didn't miss something,
will work perfectly in any situation.
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11-09-2009, 11:48 PM
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#128
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btw. we can reverse-pan with any plug-in by reversing the pin connectors. but that
still requires using a plug-in. and it would deeply complicate reading the signal flow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by whatsup
....if i didn't miss something,
will work perfectly in any situation.
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what you missed is that i made a template in cubase that uses 35 tracks and busses.
in reaper, the equivalent uses 72 tracks and busses.
that's because every time i used dual panners on a send in cubase,
i had to make a new bus in reaper, and also add another plug-in.
jeff dinces
Last edited by cerberus; 11-09-2009 at 11:56 PM.
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01-11-2010, 05:27 AM
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#129
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+1 for (optional) power panning -looks very user friendly and intuitive as visualized by Tallisman.
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01-11-2010, 06:18 AM
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#130
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamChaos
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Indeed...
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01-22-2010, 01:16 AM
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#131
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This is a total must-have feature. In fact I don't understand it's still not implemented, even if it can be done with JS. When you come from another DAW, there's no way you think about inserting a JS to do that kind of stuff. Other DAW users don't even know what a JS is. Come on !
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01-22-2010, 03:02 AM
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#132
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallisman
I miss the Cubase handles and offers multiple methods of panning.
by far my favorite flexibility seen thus far.
we have regular (like Reaper)
Dual Like pro Tools
and combined which... errm combines the two by enabling you to set the position of the left CH and the right ch, and then if you want you can pan that width. Very cool
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me too. +1 to a set up like this.
EDIT: i just realised how old and huge this thread is.
Hmmmmmm.....
anyone home?
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01-22-2010, 02:25 PM
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#133
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+ 1.
Gradualy making the jump from protools, this is first feature I noticed missing.
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02-14-2010, 03:36 PM
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#134
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this one is such a must-have ...
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03-25-2010, 09:31 PM
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#135
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After trying a dozen different JS plug-ins, I found that chanmix2 is the best for me to mimic the Cubase Combined panner. It seems to maintain gain level more accurately than stereofield, stereowidth, pseudostereo, etc. I'll set the width with the plug-in then the position with the regular panner. That being said:
+111111 for a built-in power panner.
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05-02-2010, 02:18 PM
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#136
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Just to keep this thread alive. Power panning should be implemented.
So, +1 to power panning!
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05-02-2010, 03:39 PM
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#137
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One more +1 for this simple but important feature, as described by Tallisman.
Power Panning for all !
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05-13-2010, 04:23 PM
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#138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallisman
Stereo Balance Panner controls the balance between the left and right channels.
This is the default mode.
- If you right-click in the pan control field for a (stereo) audio
channel, you can select one of three pan modes:
- If Stereo Dual Panner is selected, there will be two pan controls with the upper controlling pan for the left channel, and the lower controlling pan for the right channel. This allows you set pan independently for the left and right channels. Note that it is possible to reverse the left and right channels, i.e. the left channel can be panned to the right and vice versa. You can also “sum” two channels by setting them to the same pan position (i.e. mono) – note that this will increase the volume of the signal.
- If Stereo Combined Panner is selected, the left and right pan positions are shown as two lines with a blue/gray area between them. If you reverse the left and right channels, the area between the pan controls will be red instead of blue/gray.
yessir!
now that is what I'm talking about!
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yes!!
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05-13-2010, 04:43 PM
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This FR is at least two years old, maybe older, so I suspect that either the devs have no interest in it or it's difficult to pull off for some reason.
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05-13-2010, 06:05 PM
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#140
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adding my +1
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05-13-2010, 06:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence
This FR is at least two years old, maybe older, so I suspect that either the devs have no interest in it or it's difficult to pull off for some reason.
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I don't think that it is difficult to implement such a simple thing into reaper...
I think that the main reason why the progress is so slow (when it comes to adding features like this) is because they want to keep everything skinnable...also, maybe they need more technical info on how to program it...
maybe if white tie or someone else will make a workable mockup with full details, the devs will make it in few days...it really shouldn't be a big problem IMO.
maybe and maybe and maybe....and maybe schwa or justin will tell us what's holding them back with this and other popular features, so we will be able to be useful instead of wasting time talking in "maybe..."
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06-03-2010, 10:18 AM
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#142
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dual panning would be great for auxes too
Hi,
I think that plugin works great fot narrowing stereo BUT in-build dual panner would bee great because I asume that it would also be on aux sends.
That way you could send signal to your stereo delay in different position in stereo. I Know that you can put chanel mixer to the delay track but then it will effect all signals driven to the delay.
Can you follow my thought and poor english?
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06-03-2010, 04:51 PM
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#143
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This missing pro feature in Reaper is keeping me from adopting the software, and I am sure I am not the only one. This is a sine qua non for people who understand mixing. Proper panning is not something that should require workarounds like using plug ins.
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06-04-2010, 03:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philter
This missing pro feature in Reaper is keeping me from adopting the software, and I am sure I am not the only one. This is a sine qua non for people who understand mixing. Proper panning is not something that should require workarounds like using plug ins.
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Yep, a very basic function for a mixer. Almost as basic as a channel fader.
It should be affecting the send pan as well - optional of course but necessary for REAL stereo FX use.
Vote, everyone.
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06-04-2010, 04:55 AM
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#145
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yes please for dual panners, power panners or whatever you want to call them..
i also miss them since i left protools...
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06-04-2010, 05:25 AM
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Here you can vote:
http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=2581
This is pretty essential me thinks.
Thanks.
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07-24-2010, 06:36 AM
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Oh yes pleeeaaaase include dual panners or power panners in Reaper, this is so useful - as in "very easy to use". I know it can be done using plugins but that requires a lot of extra clicks and clutters your insert list when it could be done with just one anytime.
Please
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08-02-2010, 06:07 PM
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#148
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+1 for dual panning!
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08-04-2010, 06:54 AM
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This is one basic feature, make reaper more pro friendly, this keeps reaper out of pro's universe.
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10-12-2010, 05:34 AM
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#150
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Until this is a feature of Reaper here is a workaround
Add chanmix2 as an FX
Use envelope parameters to make left and right knobs available from TCP
Minimize track so knobs are beside each other
Save as a track template
Hope this helps, for now
Paul
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10-20-2010, 02:05 AM
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#151
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POWER PANNNNINNNGGGG
it s a necessity to put the stereo track across the panorama ... pleaseee
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10-20-2010, 05:25 AM
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#152
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Yes please...plus ..
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10-20-2010, 08:06 PM
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#153
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I just use THIS.....
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05-16-2012, 03:13 PM
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#154
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With dual panning, using pan and width, is it also to control e.g. width via external hardware midi controllers already? In short, does "width" also have midi mapping?
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05-16-2012, 03:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonE
With dual panning, using pan and width, is it also to control e.g. width via external hardware midi controllers already? In short, does "width" also have midi mapping?
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Same system as for the ordinary pan/balance control, as learnable actions. Filter for "width" (duh! ). These actions are controlling both, the width control in stereo pan mode and the right pan control in dual pan mode.
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05-16-2012, 04:02 PM
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#156
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yes please.
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