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Old 02-12-2017, 09:26 AM   #1
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Default Really complex Reaper control surface for iPad - can we hope for it ?

The new Reaper remote control is really great and ideal for record start/stop etc. I use it permanently on my iPhone.

I wonder if we can hope in really complex remote control suitable for big iPads etc. and containing all the basic functions, big remote control, mix and other parameters (something like virtual Faderport - that would yet surpass it etc.).

See also https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id638394624

http://www.avid.com/products/pro-tools-control

etc.

I tried that saitara software AC-7 and AC-X but found it completely unusable

Looking forward to the real Reaper one ...
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Old 02-12-2017, 09:50 AM   #2
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Just had a quick look at the Avid link, this may already work in Reaper, it's free in the App store.

If you have an iPad, try downloading it and see if it works.

You will have to install the software noted in my sig below, as well as the EuCon software.

Edit: Lol Reynaud beat me as I was typing.
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:02 AM   #3
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I was going to make a comparison with the Soundcraft UI range of mixers that offer ipad or Android control and which have a fantastic interface and functionality. And I was going to fantasize about what a REAPER equivalent would be like and how that would really put Cockos on the map as people start using REAPER for live sound. And how Serr would start doing tutorial videos with Kenny...

Well I just had a quick look at this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHB6xLWQL1c

Soundcraft just started offering multitrack recording with their latest version (as opposed to stereo master only on the UI16).
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:15 AM   #4
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:25 AM   #5
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I guess I have a small confession to make.
I still haven't really integrated the newer OSC based touch MIDI control. Between the remote desktop connection for the iPad and the physical MIDI controllers (via wi-fi USB hub) everything just works.

I'm aware that my wi-fi data load could be cut down to a tiny fraction of what RDP uses but... nothing's broken right now and thus laziness has taken over. Along with becoming disgruntled with live sound work and getting into studio projects more.

I still want to incorporate this into the rig one of these days. It's just software updates to existing hardware. I've got it in my head that this would be a couple/few days of learning curve and R&D. Is that wrong and I'm just being stupid? So... I wouldn't mind seeing something from Reaper to simply download to get started either.


I've tried to quiz a few Behringer/Midas or Presonus users about the iPad connection with those out_of_the_box apps as to any lag or other network issues. I'm pretty sure they have them actually and they are actually critical! It's just that many people aren't doing real "hands on" mixing where you make quick moves (like quick tapping in a tempo and turning up a send to a delay for a single word for one example). They push the fader up for the gtr solo and the 3 second lag doesn't even register as a problem for them. What I'm saying is those that aren't complaining aren't being very demanding of the system.


The interference issues I've run into a handful of times were either a shootout with a wi-fi based POS system (that's Point Of Sale, not...) or an old leslie motor that was basically a radio jammer.
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:58 AM   #6
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Wait!

Can I use an older smartphone (iphone 4S) to control Reaper?
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:08 AM   #7
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Wait!

Can I use an older smartphone (iphone 4S) to control Reaper?
Sure!

Either with a remote desktop app or the OSC based stuff. Treat it just like an iPad.
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:08 PM   #8
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Sure!

Either with a remote desktop app or the OSC based stuff. Treat it just like an iPad.
I just entered the 21st century with this old iphone.

So, I know what a remote desktop is (never used one) but I am not sure what OSC is.
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:10 PM   #9
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You can use ProTools Control with the Eucon beta for Reaper:
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/18477/EuCon%20Beta.zip

Discussion here: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=122509

Sadly, the Eucon beta is no longer being developed.
This does not work: you add Eucon as a new controller and Reaper crashes ... all the time ... useless
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:13 PM   #10
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But this ProTools control looks really great: several windows (arrange, mix, tracks, soft buttons etc.), big transport control.

Please, make something like this for Reaper )
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:21 PM   #11
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I just entered the 21st century with this old iphone.

So, I know what a remote desktop is (never used one) but I am not sure what OSC is.
It's news to me, too. I had to look it up...

This wikipedia article mentions REAPER:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Sound_Control

I hope this means that I can use an old i-pod touch w/ wi-fi.
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:35 PM   #12
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Works well here with the latest Eucon drivers on OS X.11.6, Reaper 5.33 and an iPad Air 2. No crashes.

Only issue is the slow responsiveness in Reaper when adding new tracks which lags a little.

The driver is good enough that I am still half considering investing in Avid's S3, and if the Reaper Eucon portion was still actively developed I would strongly consider investing in an S6.
I don't understand what difference it could make. Macbook Pro with the latest Sierra + iPadPro. All done as per description, then finding Eucon among surface modes, selecting it - OK - and "Reaper quit unexpectedly". All the time again and again

Is the the latest Eucon driver ? https://stash.reaper.fm/v/18477/EuCon%20Beta.zip
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Old 02-12-2017, 03:33 PM   #13
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Has anyone tried v-control pro? Looks quite interesting and reaper is mentioned as a supported daw.
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Old 02-12-2017, 04:59 PM   #14
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Ok, so I have tried it ... it works, but it is a bit limited in functions for Reaper

I found Duet Display with a second display on iPad a bit more useful. But I found an unpleasant limitation there - it somehow does not show any "roll out" sub menus (in plugins, settings etc.). You move it to the main display, no problem. Quite strange
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:55 AM   #15
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Yep, that is an awesome way to control Reaper...especially from the vocal booth

Cant work out why it hasn't caught on more it's a very sophisticated template, not sure if it's going to be developed further.

The one to watch is Metagrid - http://www.metasystem.io/ especially if it locks into the OTR workflow.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:27 AM   #16
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Someone made a TouchOSC preset for reaper based on LogicTouch. This Youtube video has a demo and a download link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2QoJzDWVuw

It's not exactly the same as the protools one, but it can do a lot.
It works really well actually!
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Old 03-01-2017, 01:09 PM   #17
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Yep and it works fine on an Android device too.
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There is also metagrid, from http://www.metasystem.io
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ReaperWRB?

https://reaperblog.net/2019/05/reaperwrb-2-1-update/
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