Old 05-04-2019, 04:35 AM   #81
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Can Reaper get interval lines from note to note in piano roll* as well? See the link below, where I added graphics and explanations.

* https://github.com/michaelsjackson/r...orums/issues/1
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:43 AM   #82
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That has nothing to do with CC envelopes discussion, at all.
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:48 AM   #83
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But it has with piano roll, where midi cc envelopes are part of, so why only improving the envelopes but not the notes? Both is better, as the source codes should be same place, you know my friend.
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:49 AM   #84
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What's the title of this thread? Does it contain "piano roll" in it? It doesn't. So, you're off-topic.
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Old 05-04-2019, 05:05 AM   #85
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I am in-topic in the off topic, btw. for listening to midi compositions I am not using Reaper at all, loading midi files in Synthesia, loading synths in buze, all in wine in linux, watching the played notes in Synthesia, all wonderful, wonderful display, wonderful sound, even when used cheapest piano vst like S-YXG50, advantage is low cpu consumption, thanks to great reverbs available for buzz, like HALYverb and Funkyverb.

midi > Synthesia > buze > S-YXG50 (piano vst) > HALYverb || Funkyverb.

Piano enjoyment in purest and simplest form.

Now what is missing is the analysis part. What is available is MusicGraph, but as a Reaper user, Reaper could take over this job, wonderfully, getting best composition and analysis environment. Synthesia and buze as best playing environment, if you do not want to compose anything, not analyze anything, just enjoying listening to great midi compositions.
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:41 AM   #86
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What's the title of this thread? Does it contain "piano roll" in it? It doesn't. So, you're off-topic.
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Totally off topic, but the forum seems less polite now 2c
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Old 05-05-2019, 11:14 AM   #87
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I agree with ED. It was completely off topic and should have been posted in Feature Requests not here. It literally had nothing to do with CC Envelopes and isn't relevant to the discussion and testing of this new CC implementation.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:16 AM   #88
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There's no modifier for square mode, there's a default curve option for MIDI CC envs in Prefs->Editing Behavior->MIDI Editor that is by default set to square. You don't have to do anything.
Sorry, but I can't find this in Prefs->Editing Behavior->MIDI Editor. Where can I set the default curve mode? Did a search in preferences, no result.
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That option is not there in the current CC envelopes implementation. It was in the older one, several dev cycles ago.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:56 AM   #90
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That option is not there in the current CC envelopes implementation. It was in the older one, several dev cycles ago.
Is the CC envelopes feature still planned.
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Is the CC envelopes feature still planned.
schwa's comment about it:
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...0&postcount=72
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thanks, so let's wait.
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:13 AM   #93
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REAPER is step-by-step moving away from the plain MIDI standard. First, MIDI events got flags for selected and muted states, then notation was added, and now CC envelopes.

Perhaps this is a good time to completely re-think how REAPER stores MIDI data.

In particular, notes can be transformed into miniature "items" that store more than just a note-on:

* Instead of separate note-ons and note-offs, each note event can store the note length. This will avoid all the problems with overlapping notes that get infinitely extended or chopped off.

* Each note can store its own polyphonic aftertouch events, which will allow REAPER to eventually develop something similar to Cubase's "note expression".

* Each note can store its own notation, so that scripts don't have to search the MIDI stream for a matching notation event.
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Old 07-11-2019, 11:40 AM   #94
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Perhaps this is a good time to completely re-think how REAPER stores MIDI data.

In particular, notes can be transformed into miniature "items" that store more than just a note-on
This would be absolutely brilliant and really the ultimate goal.
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Yep, I like the idea as well.
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* Instead of separate note-ons and note-offs, each note event can store the note length. This will avoid all the problems with overlapping notes that get infinitely extended or chopped off.
yes, extremely important.

this will also allow for items that contain midi notes that extend past the item end. this crucial for pickups and chords whose notes don't all begin at item start/x.1.1.



if i'm trying to split/copy move the above chord, where a strum is simulated, i cannot split on the 3.1.1 without creating unwanted multiple notes. desired behavior: the first 2 notes go in item 1, full length, and the 3rd note goes in item 2, full length.

in the MPC series, "items" were called "sequences" and behaved as described above. you could go from one sequence/item to another and long notes held from the previous sequence would keep playing until their length had been reached (this was overridden by the stop button)

i'm aware of snap offset, but that presents its own problems (overlapping midi items) in the case where you're pasting midi over existing midi. overlapping midi items are horror for people using midi overdub.

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In particular, notes can be transformed into miniature "items" that store more than just a note-on
"track-based midi." whatever it takes to get the workflow without breaking scripts.
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