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05-19-2017, 11:15 AM
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v5.50pre9 - May 19 2017
v5.50pre9 - May 19 2017
+ Transport: new option to flash transport status yellow on possible audio device underrun
+ VST3: IContextInfoHandler2/IContextInfoProvider2 support
+ Windows: support receiving ASIO overload notifications
# Automation items: add option to trim existing items behind edited items
# Automation items: edits to unselected items do not affect selected items when other pooled items are affected [p=1843967]
# Automation items: fix item length after re-looping [p=1843705]
# Automation items: fix undo after closing automation item properties dialog [p=1843695]
# Automation items: fix uneditable points in looped items [p=1843639]
# Automation items: ignore "edits affect pooled copies" option when copying
# Automation items: improve "collect points" behavior when editing pooled automation items
# Automation items: improve ripple editing behavior
# Preferences: add "trim content behind media items when editing" to Preferences/Project/Media item defaults
# Video: try to open .aac files with video decoders
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Last edited by vitalker; 05-19-2017 at 11:22 AM.
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05-19-2017, 11:32 AM
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How should AIs work with VCAs and "Envelope: apply all VCAs to selected tracks and remove from VCA groups" when an AI is on the VCA track?
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05-19-2017, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
v5.50pre9 - May 19 2017
+ Transport: new option to flash transport status yellow on possible audio device underrun
+ VST3: IContextInfoHandler2/IContextInfoProvider2 support
+ Windows: support receiving ASIO overload notifications
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awesome! So maybe someone could script a marker to drop in places where this might have happened 
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05-19-2017, 01:18 PM
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Creating new pooled AI's is broken with "edits affect all pooled automation items at the same time position" on.
- Create AI with option-left drag (macOS) (draw a pooled copy of the selected automation item)
- Select created AI
- Create AI with option-left drag (macOS) (draw a pooled copy of the selected automation item)
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05-19-2017, 01:25 PM
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Collect points with "edits affect all pooled automation items at the same time position" on gives different results depending on what was selected last!
Easy-replication:
- Create an AI on a Volume Track (1)
- Create a pooled copy of (1) starting at the same time on a Pan Track
- Collect Left (Cmd-left drag macOS).
- Alternate this process after selecting the 'other ai' once.
- Try this process after selecting back and forth manually.
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05-19-2017, 01:30 PM
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With "edits affect all pooled automation items at the same time position" on, Collecting points only can collect the bottom AI.
Gif should be self-explanatory.
This may not be strictly a bug per-se, however I think the expectation would be that the selected, or acted upon, AI is what consumes the envelope.
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05-19-2017, 01:38 PM
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When writing automation manually, if the written automation crosses an AI boundary, then the automation seems to almost always be written 1-2 points "late" to the AI.
The gif doesn't show an example where it's particularly problematic, however there are times when that automation point that ends up 'under' the AI is a vital part of a complex motion.
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05-19-2017, 01:42 PM
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Regarding posts 5 and 6, maybe the best solution is for the "affects all pooled automation items" option not to apply to the "collect points" mouse modifier?
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05-22-2017, 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill
awesome! So maybe someone could script a marker to drop in places where this might have happened |
Yes! Please ☺👍🍺
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05-19-2017, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
v5.50pre9 - May 19 2017
+ Transport: new option to flash transport status yellow on possible audio device underrun
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Hallelujah !
Many thanks for this Cockos !
For the ones interested in this option:
I noticed this option can be found by right-clicking in the time indicator area of the Transport Bar.
It seems, by default, the option is now turned OFF. (great !).
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05-19-2017, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanhaze
For the ones interested in this option:
I noticed this option can be found by right-clicking in the time indicator area of the Transport Bar.
It seems, by default, the option is now turned OFF. (great !).
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Thanks, I was wondering where to find it (checked device settings but no dice).
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05-19-2017, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
# Video: try to open .aac files with video decoders
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Thanks.
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05-19-2017, 10:37 PM
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# Automation items: fix uneditable points in looped items [p=1843639]
Gutted, i was hoping this mean't we could select points inside an automation item and run actions, this badly needs adding 
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05-20-2017, 06:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gpunk_w
# Automation items: fix uneditable points in looped items [p=1843639]
Gutted, i was hoping this mean't we could select points inside an automation item and run actions, this badly needs adding
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To elaborate, here's a list of non-script actions that don't seem to work on points in AIs:
- Envelope: Copy points within time selection (Copies the AI, not the points)
- Envelope: Copy selected points (Copies oddly. Paste is done oddly)
- Envelope: Cut points within time selection (Cuts the AI, not the points)
- Envelope: Cut selected points (Copies oddly. Paste is done oddly)
SWS/BR actions largely don't work correctly. I haven't found any that do in a quick look.
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05-20-2017, 07:01 AM
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Collecting points leaves an 'edge point' of the AI behind.
- Collect points with AI over existing envelope points (edge-left drag macOS)
- Move AI to reveal underlying envelope
The collection action seems to create a new edge point that's added to both the AI and the underlying envelope.
Option-left drag to consume points with a new AI acts like I'd expect.
I understand that the AI needs a new point added when collecting, but the underlying envelope should not get that point.
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05-20-2017, 07:08 AM
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The mouse modifier "Move automation items relative to other selected items" is available as a left-drag option.
If this is intentional, then it doesn't work.
Shouldn't this be for the "Automation Item" context?
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05-20-2017, 07:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Randolph
The mouse modifier "Move automation items relative to other selected items" is available as a left-drag option.
If this is intentional, then it doesn't work.
Shouldn't this be for the "Automation Item" context?
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You need at least 3 selected items at different positions for this to have an effect.
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05-20-2017, 08:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Randolph
To elaborate, here's a list of non-script actions that don't seem to work on points in AIs:
- Envelope: Copy points within time selection (Copies the AI, not the points)
- Envelope: Copy selected points (Copies oddly. Paste is done oddly)
- Envelope: Cut points within time selection (Cuts the AI, not the points)
- Envelope: Cut selected points (Copies oddly. Paste is done oddly)
SWS/BR actions largely don't work correctly. I haven't found any that do in a quick look. |
There are no actions that work on selected points within in an AI, it is a terribly flawed design, this is going to annoy a lot of people in use.
Having to slice an AI to run actions on it is just bizarre (Edit, i mistyped here, i meant having to create a time selection)
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05-20-2017, 09:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gpunk_w
There are no actions that work on selected points within in an AI, it is a terribly flawed design, this is going to annoy a lot of people in use.
Having to slice an AI to run actions on it is just bizarre
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I don't think that's correct. I tried literally every envelope point action when writing that post. The only ones that didn't work were what I listed.
Can you give a specific example?
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05-20-2017, 10:49 AM
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copy paste unlooped automation item with start offset.
https://goo.gl/LTf3au
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05-20-2017, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Randolph
I don't think that's correct. I tried literally every envelope point action when writing that post. The only ones that didn't work were what I listed.
Can you give a specific example?
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No point actions work on selected points within an automation item, they only work on selected automation items, so i cant select half the points inside an automation item and run the reduce points action for instance.
It will reduce the points of the entire automation item.
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