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For the French langpack, I worked on a list of around 1000 rows of synonyms, which I'm going to test step by step.
This thread could be used to suggest synonyms, if you're interested.
Here are my first suggestions:


fade-out,fadeout,fade out,
fade-in,fadein,fade in,
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Old 11-08-2023, 12:48 AM   #2
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Possibly 'automation' and 'envelope' should be synonyms?
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Possibly 'automation' and 'envelope' should be synonyms?
at first, I'd say :
envelope,envelopes

but maybe automation could work with envelope, however I think you shouldn't go too fast for this kind of synonyms
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at first, I'd say :
envelope,envelopes

but maybe automation could work with envelope, however I think you shouldn't go too fast for this kind of synonyms
Automation and envelope are often used synonymously, though. The whole term 'envelope' is kinda REAPER-centric, I think. A lot of DAWs just talk about automation curves or something on those lines. So when I'm looking for an action that affects envelopes, my first instinct might be to type in 'automation' in the search.
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I think it needs testing.
you'd have to start by typing in the filter :
automation NOT envelope
or
envelope NOT automation

to see the number of actions in question and whether it's likely to cause problems

then type several words in the filter for several types of search.
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Old 11-08-2023, 03:23 AM   #6
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Envelope and automation are not stricly synonims.



Envelope is a type of support for the automation. An envelope is a kind of automation lane.


If you want to record fader movement, you will record automation, not record envelope. The envelope will already be there, ready to handle your automation data, display as envelope points.


An envelope with points handle the automation of a parameter value over time.


To go further, the automation of a parameter could be handled wthout envelope (like with action marker for eg, MIDI, etc) - but the term isnt used that way in action list I think indeed.
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Envelope and automation are not stricly synonims.
Not strictly, no. But they are very closely related, and they are often *used* synonymously. There are actions that modify envelope points or segments of an envelope, but don't include the word "envelope". (One example is "Automation lane: Decrease active fader a little bit" and its siblings, which I recently encountered in a different thread and is the main reason why I happened to be thinking about these terms.)

Another issue is that other DAWs often use different terminology, so people coming from elsewhere may not be as familiar with the term "envelope".

But I personally can't say if they're close enough to merit being search synonyms. That's for smarter people than me to decide. But I just wanted to bring this up, because the overlap of these terms was something I had actually very recently thought about even before this topic was posted.
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1Not strictly, no. But they are very closely related, and they are often *used* synonymously
this is precisely what I was trying to showcase in my post.
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the synonyms to be included in a "synonyms" row are not necessarily strictly synonyms. they may be related words, or even antonyms...
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or even antonyms...

That's convenient 😅
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there can sometimes be antonyms.
In the English version of Reaper, there's the row "open,display,view,show,hide" with the word "hide" as an antonym.

You could, for example, put words like "freeze" and "unfreeze" in the same row without any problem. Because there are few actions. (I don't know if these words are relevant).

Knowing that you can disable a synonym by enclosing the word you want to appear in the list in quotation marks.
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Maybe you could add the new synonyms to the original post, instead of posting a new comment for each new one? It gives a better overview, and it doesn't spam the forum so much
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I've finished the proposals, in case the developers are interested.
I've put the ones I noticed in my langpack list.
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