I use Reaper with fast PC/RME Raydat/Apogee Rosetta and few hardware units - compressors and reverbs.
Unfortunatelly I found that few instances of ReaInsert make audio playback unstable and DAW starts to react noticable slower.
Sometimes after pushing play, I can even see signal going into reverbs but hear no audio and daw is not showing any movements - after few moments starts to play.
It is not a small issue - it makes editing work annoying and fatiguing.
CPU load is around 30%.
As I remember Reapers older version had problem with hardware integration but I was sure that R5 will deliver stable ReaInsert. Is it still buggy or I`m doing it wrong?
I forgot to mention that reaper sometimes crash during close.
It happened again so I decided to paste crash logs
Podpis problemu:
Nazwa zdarzenia problemu: APPCRASH
Nazwa aplikacji: reaper.exe
Wersja aplikacji: 5.2.0.0
Sygnatura czasowa aplikacji: 57439c2e
Nazwa modu≥u z b≥Ídem: ntdll.dll
Wersja modu≥u z b≥Ídem: 6.1.7601.17514
Sygnatura czasowa modu≥u z b≥Ídem: 4ce7c8f9
Kod wyjπtku: c0000005
PrzesuniÍcie wyjπtku: 00000000000532d0
Wersja systemu operacyjnego: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Identyfikator ustawieÒ regionalnych: 1045
Dodatkowe informacje 1: 2195
Dodatkowe informacje 2: 2195ee4951804e64f7c9e1b983b1ca33
Dodatkowe informacje 3: 4a25
Dodatkowe informacje 4: 4a25de19f20de0bbb53695d20dd21da1
I found that crash depends from looping playback. If I make a loop and play few times - Reaper crash on close.
So I removed all ReaInsert instances and playback is now very responsive, audio withot dropouts and no crash on close even with looped audio. Looks like ReaInsert bug/architecture to me.
If you have a powerful machine wou might try with this:
Preferences/Audio/Buffering:
"Anticipative FX processing" disabled
"Allow live FX multiprocessing enabled
To me it seems like there is some RAM usage issue with ReaInsert too. Empty project with 57 ReaInsert instances uses 1638 MB RAM here. Doesn't look right to me. Can't get it to crash tho.
PDC is quite low in my project when compare with Yours.
Some of Reainserted channels even show PDC value 0.
I changed few things:
1. In preferences/playback unchecked Flush Fx... and Run fx...options
2. Made new digital cables to connect all digital devices /spdif, AES/EBU, ADAT /
3. Redesigned my digital clock flow.
4. Set up smaller buffer size /128/.
It helped a lot - not sure what exactly but maybe every change I made helped a little.
Reaper is not crashing on close, only sometimes lags with playback but not so much as before.
Actually I`m not big fan of folders - i tried but lost in the bush
I prefer old, good busses - maybe it makes Reaper little confused. Is it better for performance to use folder tracks instead routing tracks to busses and busses to master?
I have a short break before next project so let me upgrade thread.
The issue still exist.
I use reainserts in two ways:
1. to patch external fx on aux track and route aux track to instrument bus /drum bus,vox bus etc/
2. to insert hardware on bus track /compressors/
In the last project I wanted to send all instrument buses to aux track with reainserted Lexicon PCM reverb - to add some space.It actually routed reainserted auxes to buses and buses to master and one reainserted aux.
It almost completely killed performance. To finish my work I had to bypass Lexicon track, tweak sound without it and make reverb active only during rendering.
PDC for Lexicon track was really high and was changing during playback randomly. It is similiar behaviour Dsctruct was describing few post earlier, so maybe PDC miscalculation is the point.
Reaper grows pretty fast and maybe it is good time to take care about better hardware integration - if I could help - just let me know
Hi. Just wondered if anyone can help me with Reainsert? I've been trying to use it with my roland fa/06 hardware synth. If no hardware sends are selected, the ping detector doesn't seem to work. Then if I select any hardware sends, I hear the "ping" but when I go to record, the click track doesn't work anymore.
How do I get the click to work with Reinsert? I use a roland fa-06 through a focusrite 18i20 interface. Any advice on the best way to connect the synth to reaper and what settings to use would also be greatly apreciated. cheers.
I have a short break before next project so let me upgrade thread.
The issue still exist.
I use reainserts in two ways:
1. to patch external fx on aux track and route aux track to instrument bus /drum bus,vox bus etc/
2. to insert hardware on bus track /compressors/
In the last project I wanted to send all instrument buses to aux track with reainserted Lexicon PCM reverb - to add some space.It actually routed reainserted auxes to buses and buses to master and one reainserted aux.
It almost completely killed performance. To finish my work I had to bypass Lexicon track, tweak sound without it and make reverb active only during rendering.
PDC for Lexicon track was really high and was changing during playback randomly. It is similiar behaviour Dsctruct was describing few post earlier, so maybe PDC miscalculation is the point.
Reaper grows pretty fast and maybe it is good time to take care about better hardware integration - if I could help - just let me know
Bumping this thread to note that I'm having the same issue here. ReaInsert works beautifully for mixes with a flat architecture (no subgroups). Especially if you correct the driver reported latency numbers in the preferences, it does *everything* automatically and effortlessly - no pinging necessary, even for parallel compression. Wonderful.
However...
Right now I'm working on a mix that can run at a 128 sample buffer on my system without breaking a sweat, including a bunch of plugins and instances of ReaInsert. BUT, in order to make that work I have to bypass the ReaInsert for the compressor across the drum bus. As soon as I put a ReaInsert over the drum bus it all falls apart and chokes on play back, even with a buffer of 2048. Performance monitor still shows 20-25% usage
The issue is that there is routing within the drum bus that ReaInsert can't seem to figure out how to deal with. There are HW FX returns in it that receive from tracks that are both in and out of the subgroup. There are also sends from HW FX return tracks to other HW FX.
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe this has also come up with simpler routing where it's just a ReaInsert on a track that's inside a folder that has a ReaInsert on it.
Would love to see this addressed in a future update but it seems like the devs have deemed ReaInsert "fixed," which for basic uses it seems to be. It's still not allowing me to reproduce the workflow of a LFAC, though.
I agree, for me works great when I have two instances, but when its starting to get 3 and above things can get messy. A quick overhaul from the devs would be very nice. Lots of people want to integrate HW in Reaper.
Do any regular forum users know the protocol at this point for formally reporting bugs? It seems like the problems with ReaInsert are being considered addressed as of V5, but there's still some significant issues.
ReaInsert issue/bug?
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