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Old 08-10-2018, 11:32 PM   #1
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Default Recommended Distro?

My older core2 duo laptop irrevocably crashed recently during a windows update, so I have an opportunity to do a clean install of Linux. Probably a subjective question, but what is the recommended Distro for Reaper?
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:44 PM   #2
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Hi i have used avlinux 64 on my hp elite 8200. It's easy distro gnu linux based on system debian stretch 9.5 specialized and optimized for audio,video grapfhic production similar at other distro ( ubuntu studio,kx studio). On avlinuxl4 you have pre installed a version of reaper development. It work perfect. On this site you can download version 32 or 64 bit of avlinux - http://www.bandshed.net/avlinux/

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AvLinux, Io.gnu.linux or KXStudio (more heavy with KDE environment), but a Debian or Ubuntu with KXStudio repo
and some tweeks (PAM, rtiq) and a low-latency kernel can
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Old 08-11-2018, 12:57 AM   #4
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Thanks, I'll give AvLinux a go.
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I recommend for example AVLinux or a Debian with individual customizations. :-)
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Old 08-11-2018, 05:51 AM   #6
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It's really hard to recommend a distro, as it really depends on the Linux skills and motivation of the user to dig into system details.
As you have most software available on all main distros, it also doesn't matter too much which one you chose, as you can customize the system anyways.

I personally like to be KISS and my system is customized to be as ergonomic as possible, e.g. got many repetetive tasks mapped to shortkeys reachable by my left hand, to avoid switching my right hand between mouse and keyboard too much - and to avoid using the mouse as much as possible.

I'm running a super minimal RT customized Debian installation with a tiling window manager (Awesome WM) where nothing is running except the absolute essential processes.

No icons, no moving or resizing windows, no titlebars and all that clutter that one got used to when Windows took over in the 90s.

Reaper has almost all system resources for itself on my system.

For that matter I like Debian, because you can start with the most minimal installation possible, and then add the needed packages.
With Ubuntu you always get kind of a bloated installation - which is fine for users who don't want to be bothered with low-level system stuff.

But I wouldn't recommend my approach to anyone without enough experience with Linux.
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I was using Ubuntu Studio for years. Due to bugs and issues I switched to Mint XFCE. I really like the Xfce interface (so does Linus). I have it on several machines and they all work fine.

Linux is fun to mess with and I sometimes write code on it. I have not used it much for serious music production. It's great on an older PC.
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I was using Ubuntu Studio for years. Due to bugs and issues I switched to Mint XFCE. I really like the Xfce interface (so does Linus). I have it on several machines and they all work fine.

Linux is fun to mess with and I sometimes write code on it. I have not used it much for serious music production. It's great on an older PC.
You can't just walk in here, drop a bomb like that, and run away.

When did you last use Ubuntu Studio (which version)? What were the bugs you noticed? When you switched to Mint XFCE did you use it for audio and if so what did you have to do with the distro (swap kernels, etc.)?

I don't want it to be "a Windows PC" (I won't be running Wine or Windows plugins) but I do want it to work properly.
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The Liquorix kernel seems to be ok for audio https://liquorix.net/

It installs on Debian/Ubuntu based distros.
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Thanks for all the info. I installed AVLinux, which was reasonably painless, and loaded reaper. I'm not very familiar with linux. I couldn't get the install script to work so I just put reaper in the home directory.

First problem I have run into is that I put my JSFX files in the Effects directory, but reaper does not seem to be able to recognise them when I scan for new plugins. I've tried renaming them (removing the .jsfx and any spaces in the filename) and simplifying the directory structure, but no luck. Any clues?
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Thanks for all the info. I installed AVLinux, which was reasonably painless, and loaded reaper. I'm not very familiar with linux. I couldn't get the install script to work so I just put reaper in the home directory.

First problem I have run into is that I put my JSFX files in the Effects directory, but reaper does not seem to be able to recognise them when I scan for new plugins. I've tried renaming them (removing the .jsfx and any spaces in the filename) and simplifying the directory structure, but no luck. Any clues?
Where is the directory that you've put them in?
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\o/
Console: Use the tab key to complete the path.
change to the directory
Code:
u@law ~ $ cd blablabla/reaper/reaper_594pre6/
install (with sudo or as root (su))
Code:
u@law ~/blablabla/reaper/reaper_594pre6 $ sudo ./install-reaper.sh
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Originally Posted by bla@bla ~blabla//reaper_594pre6 $ ./install-reaper.sh
REAPER installation script

PLEASE NOTE -- REAPER for Linux is an unsupported experimental version.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
which: no sudo in (/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/7.3.0:/usr/lib/llvm/6/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin)
Available commands:
[V]iew readme-linux.txt and REAPER license agreement

[R]un REAPER from /home/daw/Musik/reaper/reaper_594pre6/REAPER/reaper5

You can run REAPER without installing it.
Your ~/.config/REAPER/ directory will be used

[I]nstall REAPER (you will be prompted for various options)

This install script can put the REAPER program into /opt
or ~/opt, or a path of your choice, and optionally set
up desktop integration (menu items, file associations).

[A]dd desktop integration for /home/daw/Musik/reaper/reaper_594pre6/REAPER/reaper5

If you've extracted REAPER into the path you would like
it to live in (/home/daw/Musik/reaper/reaper_594pre6/REAPER), you can set
up desktop integration (menu items, file associations,
etc) via this action.

Command [V,R,I,A]:
Plugin path of your personal plugins have you defined in Reaper?

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For those still interested in what distros work well with Reaper:

Any of the Ubuntu family should work. The low-latency kernel exists in the default repos and it is easy to install. So, basically, any member of the Ubuntu family will work just fine. Pick a Desktop Environment you want to use, load the Ubuntu distro that has it, install the Low-latency repo, configure, and you're ready to go. :-)

Personally, because I'm trying to get to the point where everything works on a touch screen, I have chosen Gnome 3. It works fine. :-)
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For those still interested in what distros work well with Reaper:

Any of the Ubuntu family should work. The low-latency kernel exists in the default repos and it is easy to install. So, basically, any member of the Ubuntu family will work just fine. Pick a Desktop Environment you want to use, load the Ubuntu distro that has it, install the Low-latency repo, configure, and you're ready to go. :-)

Personally, because I'm trying to get to the point where everything works on a touch screen, I have chosen Gnome 3. It works fine. :-)
I also like the package "ubuntustudio-controls" that is in the regular ubuntu repositories, so you can use it in any ubuntu-based distro (I use KDE Neon). It is a simple way to set up realtime permissions and put your user in the audio group.
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I also like the package "ubuntustudio-controls" that is in the regular ubuntu repositories, so you can use it in any ubuntu-based distro (I use KDE Neon). It is a simple way to set up realtime permissions and put your user in the audio group.
Interesting! I wasn't aware of this package! I've been setting everything up manually! This tip will be a great time saver!! Thanks!
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\o/
Console: Use the tab key to complete the path.
change to the directory
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u@law ~ $ cd blablabla/reaper/reaper_594pre6/
OK, that's the bit I missed with trying to run the installer. It's about thirty years since I last used UNIX. That's my excuse anyway.
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Where is the directory that you've put them in?
I'm not in front of my Linux computer so I can't give you the path, but I just put them in a sub folder under /Effects, which is where I would put them in my Windows install. Reaper is currently in a folder in my home directory. I'm seeing all of the JS and other plugs that come with the install, but not any that I add in. I could understand the problem if it was VSTs, but I would have thought that JS should just work if I put them in the Effects folder, unless there is a problem with the file type, but they are basically just text files.
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Reaper uses ~/.config/REAPER by default for it's configuration. Try putting them into there instead.
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EDIT: untrue
You have specified your "~/Effects" folder in Reaper >> "Options > Preferences > Plug-Ins > ReaScript"?
https://www.reaper.fm/sdk/reascript/reascript.php
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You must have Python installed on your computer and enabled in REAPER preferences (Options > Preferences > Plug-Ins > ReaScript).
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Reaper uses ~/.config/REAPER by default for it's configuration. Try putting them into there instead.
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You have specified your "~/Effects" folder in Reaper >> "Options > Preferences > Plug-Ins > ReaScript"?
https://www.reaper.fm/sdk/reascript/reascript.php
This would normally go into ~/.config/REAPER/Effects
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Yes. I also quoted your answer and agree with you (ack).
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~/.config/REAPER/
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You have specified your "~/Effects" folder in Reaper >> "Options > Preferences > Plug-Ins > ReaScript"?
AFAIK, there is no such option.. And in any case if there was, probably a stupid idea to change the path to elsewhere, this should work out of the box.
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That's right.
What I meant refers to "Custom path of Python dll directory". Ergo wrong information on my part.
I beg your pardon. :-)
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No problem! I just don't want people to get confused..
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I'm confused. Currently I have put reaper here: /home/mal/reaper_linux_x86_64/REAPER.

Here's what I get if I try to run the install script:

mal@malAVL64:/$ cd /home/mal/reaper_linux_x86_64/
mal@malAVL64:~/reaper_linux_x86_64$ sudo install-reaper.sh
sudo: install-reaper.sh: command not found
mal@malAVL64:~/reaper_linux_x86_64$ dir
install-reaper.sh readme-linux.txt REAPER
mal@malAVL64:~/reaper_linux_x86_64$ sudo install-reaper.sh
sudo: install-reaper.sh: command not found
mal@malAVL64:~/reaper_linux_x86_64$

However, Reaper runs fine, apart from the JSFX issue. I put a folder containing my JS files here: home/mal/reaper_linux_x86_64/REAPER/InstallData/Effects/ReaRackModularSynth/ along with all the other JS files that reside in folders under /Effects. However, my JSFX don't appear either when selecting running 'Scan for new plugins' or on restarting Reaper. Where is this /.config directory?
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I'm confused. Currently I have put reaper here: /home/mal/reaper_linux_x86_64/REAPER.

Here's what I get if I try to run the install script:

mal@malAVL64:/$ cd /home/mal/reaper_linux_x86_64/
mal@malAVL64:~/reaper_linux_x86_64$ sudo install-reaper.sh
sudo: install-reaper.sh: command not found
mal@malAVL64:~/reaper_linux_x86_64$ dir
install-reaper.sh readme-linux.txt REAPER
mal@malAVL64:~/reaper_linux_x86_64$ sudo install-reaper.sh
sudo: install-reaper.sh: command not found
mal@malAVL64:~/reaper_linux_x86_64$

However, Reaper runs fine, apart from the JSFX issue. I put a folder containing my JS files here: home/mal/reaper_linux_x86_64/REAPER/InstallData/Effects/ReaRackModularSynth/ along with all the other JS files that reside in folders under /Effects. However, my JSFX don't appear either when selecting running 'Scan for new plugins' or on restarting Reaper. Where is this /.config directory?
The config directory is a hidden one, you might need to enable hidden files to see it. It is located in your home, /home/mal/.config/REAPER

Not sure why you can't run the script...Doesn't debian come without sudo? That would be why I expect.
https://unix.stackexchange.com/quest...mand-not-found
https://wiki.debian.org/sudo
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Code:
bla/reaper_595pre5 $ sudo ./install-reaper.sh
Had lost the "./" while editing. Sry. ^^
Code:
/home/mal/.config/REAPER
"./"

This forum is quite retro 1990s in style (and editing) ago. ;-)

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Here's what I get if I try to run the install script:

mal@malAVL64:/$ cd /home/mal/reaper_linux_x86_64/
mal@malAVL64:~/reaper_linux_x86_64$ sudo install-reaper.sh
sudo: install-reaper.sh: command not found
Try sudo sh install-reaper.sh

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However, Reaper runs fine, apart from the JSFX issue. I put a folder containing my JS files here: home/mal/reaper_linux_x86_64/REAPER/InstallData/Effects/ReaRackModularSynth/ along with all the other JS files that reside in folders under /Effects. However, my JSFX don't appear either when selecting running 'Scan for new plugins' or on restarting Reaper. Where is this /.config directory?
Yes, it's very possible that you don't see it in a filemanager, as the preceeding dot '.' makes it a hidden directory. Either cd ~/.config/REAPER or you will have to tell your filemanager to show hidden directories.
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You can't just walk in here, drop a bomb like that, and run away.

When did you last use Ubuntu Studio (which version)? What were the bugs you noticed? When you switched to Mint XFCE did you use it for audio and if so what did you have to do with the distro (swap kernels, etc.)?

I don't want it to be "a Windows PC" (I won't be running Wine or Windows plugins) but I do want it to work properly.
OK, fair enough. The last version I used was the most recent (don't remember the release). I was using the studio version for the fast multi-media kernel and the fact it used Xcfe. I'm told the Studio version has lost a lot of developers (could be fake news). I had trouble mostly with installation. Things like WiFi not working. None of them are perfect unless you are lucky.
The more generic and "standard" the hardware you have- the better! There so many PC's with various hardware it's tough. Mint seems to have some issues with Wine, if that matters. DOSBOX works fine though. I like to mess with antique software sometimes.

Other than a day or so of messing about and searching on-line, you have to find the distro that works the best with your hardware. I use Mint on two desktops and two laptops and seems to work ok. One desktop is my beautiful wife's. She knows nothing about computers and it works for her. Granted she only uses internet apps and LibreOffice.

I am not a sysop, but have been using Official Unix versions (AT&T/NCR and BSD) on DEC hardware and such since I taught computer science at the university level. It's complex, but fun!
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You can't just walk in here, drop a bomb like that, and run away.

When did you last use Ubuntu Studio (which version)? What were the bugs you noticed? When you switched to Mint XFCE did you use it for audio and if so what did you have to do with the distro (swap kernels, etc.)?

I don't want it to be "a Windows PC" (I won't be running Wine or Windows plugins) but I do want it to work properly.
One more thing, you may also like XFCE, which ever distro/kernel you use. Otherwise Linux tries to Windows or a Macintosh. At least to me. . . It's so easy, I can't figure it out!
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Ubuntu Studio now uses XFCE, and that's what I plan to use.

I know Linux isn't compatible with everything. One of the first things a person should do is check if their hardware is supported. Most of my stuff is onboard, on a common mainboard, so that's easy enough. My only concern was my audio card, and I found a compatible one to buy.

I have no plan to use Wine or anything that requires it. I'm ditching Windows programs/plugins entirely. Having Reaper for Linux (natively) was one of the last things I was waiting for before trying Linux again.

For that matter I have no plan to use JACK. I want to run things "in the DAW" like I did in Windows. Reaper no longer requires JACK for MIDI, and I have enough plugins that are native Linux VST, so I'm good there.
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Things like WiFi not working. None of them are perfect unless you are lucky.
If "dmesg" shows something, then install the missing packages.
Code:
Yours@LAW/DAW ~ $ dmesg | grep failed
Example "dmesg" output "firmware: failed to load rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw": Search with https://www.startpage.com/ (or Google) after it. >> "apt-get install firmware-realtek"

@jack_MIDI:
  • Alsa2jack (MIDI):
    install:
    Code:
    a2jmidid
    Setup >> Options >> [X] Run script after startup
    Code:
    sleep 5 && a2jmidid -e &
    # sleep - delay a specified time period

    Setup >> Settings >> Parameters >> MIDI Drivers [none]
    Setup >> Miscellaneous >> [ ] ([none]) Provide support for ALSA sequencer
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:27 PM   #33
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One more thing, you may also like XFCE, which ever distro/kernel you use. Otherwise Linux tries to Windows or a Macintosh. At least to me. . . It's so easy, I can't figure it out!
Can not use mixbus in ubuntustudio. Sick
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Can not use mixbus in ubuntustudio. Sick
Why?

I have US 18.04 and it works great. Don't use much nowadays when we have Reaper. The one thing I need to do was: sudo chmod 0 /usr/lib/ladspa/

In the other hand, US is crashing now and then so I might install Linux Lite again. That distro is great and never crash. Should I choose RT or Low kernel? Thats the big question.
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Old 08-15-2018, 01:28 AM   #35
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Maybe:
limits.conf > Must have! >> https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/sys...sconfaudioconf?

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If there are problems, start the appropriate $program from the console.
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Try sudo sh install-reaper.sh
D'oh, that worked.
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:47 AM   #37
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It's really hard to recommend a distro, as it really depends on the Linux skills and motivation of the user to dig into system details.
As you have most software available on all main distros, it also doesn't matter too much which one you chose, as you can customize the system anyways.

I personally like to be KISS and my system is customized to be as ergonomic as possible, e.g. got many repetetive tasks mapped to shortkeys reachable by my left hand, to avoid switching my right hand between mouse and keyboard too much - and to avoid using the mouse as much as possible.

I'm running a super minimal RT customized Debian installation with a tiling window manager (Awesome WM) where nothing is running except the absolute essential processes.

No icons, no moving or resizing windows, no titlebars and all that clutter that one got used to when Windows took over in the 90s.

Reaper has almost all system resources for itself on my system.

For that matter I like Debian, because you can start with the most minimal installation possible, and then add the needed packages.
With Ubuntu you always get kind of a bloated installation - which is fine for users who don't want to be bothered with low-level system stuff.

But I wouldn't recommend my approach to anyone without enough experience with Linux.
Your setup sounds great! I've been dreaming of making a Raspberry Pi tablet with a similar configuration. :-)
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The Liquorix kernel seems to be ok for audio https://liquorix.net/

It installs on Debian/Ubuntu based distros.
I was reading a little bit about it the other day. Supposedly forked from Zen kernel? There seems to be very little documentation on their page about what purpose the kernel is designed for. It seems that load balancing was its main purpose. It didn't mention anything about low latency. Maybe I haven't found the documentation sources yet. I'm intrigued though and interested! What more can you tell us about Liquorix? Are there any links that you have found that I may have missed? :-)
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I was reading a little bit about it the other day. Supposedly forked from Zen kernel? There seems to be very little documentation on their page about what purpose the kernel is designed for. It seems that load balancing was its main purpose. It didn't mention anything about low latency. Maybe I haven't found the documentation sources yet. I'm intrigued though and interested! What more can you tell us about Liquorix? Are there any links that you have found that I may have missed? :-)
The Liquorix kernel is good for audio - it has preempt set and a timer of 1000 khz. Similar to Ubuntu's lowlatency kernels, but with other optimizations (the Zen stuff, I guess). I've used it in the past with MX-Linux, which is a great, lean distro with a good user repository that provides things like the Liquorix kernel recompiled for Debian stable (it is normally for testing or unstable).
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I was reading a little bit about it the other day. Supposedly forked from Zen kernel? There seems to be very little documentation on their page about what purpose the kernel is designed for. It seems that load balancing was its main purpose. It didn't mention anything about low latency. Maybe I haven't found the documentation sources yet. I'm intrigued though and interested! What more can you tell us about Liquorix? Are there any links that you have found that I may have missed? :-)
There is some info on their page.

Similar to eric71, I've got the liquorix kernel running with MX Linux on one laptop and it seems pretty good to me.

I've also tried the liquorix kernel with Debian Stretch and Ubuntu Studio.

It gets updated quite often.
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