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08-08-2018, 08:24 AM
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08-08-2018, 11:15 AM
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Thanks, I have tested it and still have suggestions for implementation either through script or built-in 
My suggestions are:
Trying to create layers of priority to FX windows versus the Mixer (undocked). Or inversly, to make the Mixer have less priority over openned FX windows.
In this scenario, the importance of windows would look like:
- The bottom layer: the Arrange view/main window should be last priority so that every openned window hide it.
- The middle layer: would be the mixer which never get hidden by the arrange view but also always behind the opened FX windows.
- The top layer: The FX windows would be the top and greater priority layer so that they always mask windows under them until closed.
If this is possible with the current window classes it would be the best. Don't know how to get there but my clue is that Reaper Windows need an identifier that is related to layers of importance and visibility. With this we also wouldnt need the PIN for always on top I think.
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09-07-2018, 09:27 AM
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@Edgemeal Thanks for your AOT utility. A great workaround for now.
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10-08-2018, 09:36 PM
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@Edgemeal Big thanks here too!
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10-10-2018, 06:11 PM
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It's imperative for a speedy workflow! +1!!!!!
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03-03-2019, 01:41 AM
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Thank you so much Edgemeal, it works!
Don't understand why the Mixer has to be On Top anyway.
This was so frustrating! :-(
Please change this, Cockos!
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04-19-2019, 03:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
+1 Would love to see that implemented!
Attached is another one of my possible workarounds for Window users.
Make windows in Reaper (like plugins) always on top (AOT), so they stay in front of the mixer,etc...
Downloads will posted in Stash/Misc, search for, "AOT For Reaper". |
really hope for a native solution
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06-14-2019, 01:47 AM
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#48
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Is there a workaround for Mac users to not get FX windows behind the mixer?
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06-22-2019, 12:42 PM
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#49
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* BUMP! *
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06-22-2019, 05:03 PM
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A HUGE +1 on this too. A preference to have plugin windows float above all other windows always would be fantastic...
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06-27-2019, 01:12 AM
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+1 for me. Really annoying.
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06-27-2019, 03:34 PM
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Very, very annoying! :-(
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07-17-2019, 08:18 AM
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#53
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*Bump*
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07-17-2019, 11:04 AM
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Yes, there are definitely issues with window front-back management.
The issues of multi-monitor setups are correct.
Another one is that clicking an insert in the mixer should bring that effect to the front. The current behaviour is that if it's open, but hidden behind something (including the mixer), it will be closed. Instead, it should be brought to the front.
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07-17-2019, 12:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daxliniere
Yes, there are definitely issues with window front-back management.
The issues of multi-monitor setups are correct.
Another one is that clicking an insert in the mixer should bring that effect to the front. The current behaviour is that if it's open, but hidden behind something (including the mixer), it will be closed. Instead, it should be brought to the front.
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i completely agree
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08-14-2019, 12:26 PM
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*Bump!*
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08-25-2019, 08:34 AM
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+1. Annoying since day one.
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08-28-2019, 09:34 AM
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Ditto, still hoping for a native solution to this. 'Plug-in windows always on top' in preferences would be ideal.
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09-18-2019, 03:23 PM
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Hey Justin, how about you guys ring up EdgeMeal and hire him to fix this 
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09-19-2019, 11:22 AM
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Now I think I get it!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sound asleep
I'm not sure what you mean exactly, and don't understand how an unpinned mixer could ever get on top of pinned plugins.
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I was having the same issue...even thought about putting in a request at one point some time ago. Now that I've messed with the pinning, I think I finally get it!
You see, in many applications when you click a pushpin it turns the pin sideways or vertical to indicate pinned status. All this time, I thought it WAS pinned because the pushpin was vertical. Perhaps that is what others are doing as well.
Having adjusted the pinning as suggested by other responses, does in fact correct the matter for me (NVIDIA Quadro M2000, Dual HP 22" monitors and Dell 27" monitor).
That said, is there a way to default new plugin windows to be automatically pinned? I'm looking for it and haven't seen anything yet. Thanks!
Last edited by TheMixNation; 09-19-2019 at 11:25 AM.
Reason: Additional question
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11-18-2019, 05:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vectorwarrior
Ditto, still hoping for a native solution to this. 'Plug-in windows always on top' in preferences would be ideal.
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Still waiting
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11-18-2019, 05:51 AM
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Is there a workaround for Mac users to not get FX windows behind the mixer?
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11-21-2019, 05:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SubbaseDnB
Originally Posted by daxliniere View Post
Yes, there are definitely issues with window front-back management.
The issues of multi-monitor setups are correct.
Another one is that clicking an insert in the mixer should bring that effect to the front. The current behaviour is that if it's open, but hidden behind something (including the mixer), it will be closed. Instead, it should be brought to the front.
i completely agree
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Thats a good explanation here. Its the most annoying part of not seeing the always on top floating windows that are hidden by the mixer (which btw should not be hidden).
Devs please put this one in your to do list I think its a reasonable one and its been running around for a good while with no down sides. Thank you
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11-25-2019, 06:42 PM
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Sorry for the double post but I think there's a "easy" and suitable solution that could please most people's workflow.
I suggest - to fix the problem of plugins getting hidden behind the mixer - that there would be a new option in the "plugins" tab of the Reaper settings to Always open floating plugins windows with a activated "always on top" pin.
This way it would avoid the need to manually click the pin a hundred times more often than needed when mixing etc. Also, I don't see any down side to this except that it needs work to implement.
Please let me know what you think.
thanks
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11-26-2019, 02:42 AM
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+1. I disagree that the pin button should go away. It just seems that the mixer, when floating, should be treated the same way the arrange window is. It should never cover plugins!
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11-26-2019, 06:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djangotsp
+1. I disagree that the pin button should go away. It just seems that the mixer, when floating, should be treated the same way the arrange window is. It should never cover plugins!
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well said.
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11-26-2019, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djangotsp
+1. I disagree that the pin button should go away. It just seems that the mixer, when floating, should be treated the same way the arrange window is. It should never cover plugins!
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100%!!!
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11-27-2019, 01:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djangotsp
+1. I disagree that the pin button should go away. It just seems that the mixer, when floating, should be treated the same way the arrange window is. It should never cover plugins!
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Yess
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11-27-2019, 01:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djangotsp
+1. I disagree that the pin button should go away. It just seems that the mixer, when floating, should be treated the same way the arrange window is. It should never cover plugins!
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It's probably possible but not in the way most expect, because there can only be one main owner window in an application and that's the arrange window. The mixer window in all reality isn't much different than a plugin window in the hierarchy of windows as it is also likely a child of the main window (arrange), hence not being as simple as it sounds.
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03-12-2020, 03:50 AM
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+1
same problem here - new unpinned plugins are disappearing behind the mixer. So unless I pin each new plugin they will disappear behind the mixer.
Its 2020 is there a solution for that?
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03-12-2020, 05:03 AM
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The solution would be to implement this process:
When clicking on an 'insert FX button':
If plugin GUI is closed, open it.
If plugin GUI is open, bring it to the front.
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06-11-2020, 12:53 AM
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When this bug will be fixed?
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07-13-2020, 08:55 AM
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#73
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Bump
Another example: I want floating FX's to be always on top of dockers. If I have a docker set to pin to top, then the floating FX will only be on top of the docker if it's pinned to top. I think it's better to have an option to have floating FX's to always be on top
Last edited by Ericson; 07-13-2020 at 09:01 AM.
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07-13-2020, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ericson
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Yes, starting with one of the latest versions, this does not work. Everything is hidden behind the mixer window, on the second monitor.
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07-23-2020, 10:11 AM
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Bump for this feature
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07-23-2020, 11:54 AM
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This is solved very easily with a script, so I'm unsubscribing from this thread.
It would be nice if this was the default behaviour, but the script solves this, so I consider that a win. Justin & Schwa have more time for themselves and to work on other things.
This is what you need:
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...6&postcount=34
Enjoy!
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02-02-2021, 10:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daxliniere
This is solved very easily with a script, so I'm unsubscribing from this thread.
It would be nice if this was the default behaviour, but the script solves this, so I consider that a win. Justin & Schwa have more time for themselves and to work on other things.
This is what you need:
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...6&postcount=34
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That script is Windows specific though. Still would love an OS X solution.
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01-10-2022, 12:13 PM
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01-10-2022, 12:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daxliniere
AHHH!!! This has been silently implemented!!
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In REAPER v1.0pre9 - August 8 2006 to be exact.
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01-12-2022, 12:26 PM
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Really?!? I have asked for this feature numerous times since 2008. I believe I even asked Justin directly a couple times!
And many people commented saying that they wanted that behaviour, too.. yet no-one told us! XD
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