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06-19-2018, 01:40 AM
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Rearrange Automation Lanes
[preface: the google machine shows me this has been asked many times, but I can't find the reason why it hasn't been done - if someone with the power to do so could give a firm "maybe, but not now" or "never, we don't do that", I'd appreciate it]
* Request *
Rearrange Automation Lanes
* Benefit *
-> Better organise project for an overall better experience
-> Certain synthesizers host multiple instances of itself, and one does not always work perfectly linearly - leading to this unneeded mess:
https://i.imgur.com/CsLf1fd.png
If somehow, magically, a parents automation lanes can be moved to some child track, that would make my life easier (I have 16 lanes of midi feeding one synth, it would be nice to have the automation with the relevant midi).
Suggested Behaviour:
Click on the blank space next to the lane name and drag to move the selected automation lane up or down.
Last edited by teatime; 06-19-2018 at 02:09 AM.
Reason: More info.
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06-19-2018, 08:22 AM
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06-19-2018, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teatime
but I can't find the reason why it hasn't been done
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Too boring to program for real men, no intern at hand
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06-20-2018, 07:23 AM
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I'll give like *checks bank balance*, FIVE UNITED STATES DOLLARS, to whoever does this.
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06-23-2018, 12:27 PM
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Definitely interested. I'd also like a UI button for collapsing/hiding automation lanes, instead of menu diving. There are not many buttons at the moment for automation lanes, a triangle could be added without clutter.
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07-02-2018, 05:28 AM
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@fergler You can add custom UI buttons, say, on that nice toolbar top left - and assign an action to that button. I can't remember what the action name is, but it's something like toggle automation visibility, or toggle envelope lane visibility.
FWIW, I'm more of a keyboard shortcuts kinda person, and assigned ctrl-shift-w to do this (shoW). It's minimum effort now.
Edit: Oh, you meant per individual lane; my bad.
Last edited by teatime; 07-02-2018 at 06:49 AM.
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08-29-2018, 10:51 AM
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Found a hack:
1) Assign a shortcut to "remove automation lane"
2) Remove a lane and undo, this lane is now at the bottom of the list.
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08-29-2018, 10:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teatime
Found a hack:
1) Assign a shortcut to "remove automation lane"
2) Remove a lane and undo, this lane is now at the bottom of the list.
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Sounds like a bug or a potential exploitable behaviour
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08-29-2018, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teatime
Found a hack:
1) Assign a shortcut to "remove automation lane"
2) Remove a lane and undo, this lane is now at the bottom of the list.
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hahah thanks teatime.
i'd like to add support for this as a user of "show envelope in the media lane" -- would like to be able to have essentially a FIPM for AI.
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08-29-2018, 03:03 PM
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EDIT Updated scripts attached to post #15.
Last edited by Edgemeal; 04-13-2022 at 12:35 PM.
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08-29-2018, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
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Thanks!
both have some kind of errors here!. Anyway i thought the reason for not being implemented was by some kind of design limitation.
This would be very useful to do directly in TCP, even if just for FX Envelopes, since there''s usually more lanes involved and less familiar names and "random" orders in them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by teatime
Suggested Behaviour:
Click on the blank space next to the lane name and drag to move the selected automation lane up or down.
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Last edited by deeb; 08-29-2018 at 09:09 PM.
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08-30-2018, 02:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
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There is even API for these purposes. Personally I don't like how reordering works. I mean you should be very precise to put the track somewhere. Two millimeters can break your ordering and instead of reordering you will place it into a folder... And this is not only thing, which you have to do really carefully. There should be mouse modifiers like left drag will reorder track, ctrl+left drag will insert it into the folder, alt+left drag will delete it, ctrl+alt+left drag will hide it etc.
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08-30-2018, 06:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
We can re-order track (with the thick royal blue line), why not automation lanes?
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apparently seems they don't want to : ) which is amazing in my humble opinion. It seems just motivation.
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09-04-2018, 03:19 PM
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Move Selected Parameter Envelope Up/Down
Quote:
Originally Posted by deeb
both have some kind of errors here!.
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What sort of error(s)?
I updated the scripts so they work when track also has regular reaper envelopes (Sends, volume, pan, etc) on them. The selected param envelope now stays selected after moving. I basically added a couple loops to count and ignore the non-param type envelopes, just a workaround to the code that was already there(original code by me2beats), so probably not very efficient, but so far no more errors here.
NOTE: Scripts were removed by accident.
See ReaPack for similar scripts by member BuyOne.
Last edited by Edgemeal; 04-19-2022 at 09:14 PM.
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09-05-2018, 06:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
What sort of error(s)?
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Thanks! tested it and those errors are not present anymore : )
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
I updated the scripts so they work when track also has regular reaper envelopes (Sends, volume, pan, etc) on them. The selected param envelope now stays selected after moving. I basically added a couple loops to count and ignore the non-param type envelopes, just a workaround to the code that was already there, so probably not very efficient, but so far no more errors here.
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this ones seem not to be working here:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
I'm not a lua/reaper guru/coder so use at your own risk!
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I wish this could be done by drag and drop in TCP! meanwhile this seems to be perfect! even just for FX lanes! Anyway! You have a clear syntax and good naming convention at least :P
Last edited by deeb; 09-05-2018 at 06:50 AM.
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09-11-2018, 03:09 PM
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@edgemeal
It seems I said what I was thinking when I perform the action, and not naming the action >.>
For the record, it's [Envelope: Clear Envelope]
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09-11-2018, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teatime
@edgemeal
It seems I said what I was thinking when I perform the action, and not naming the action >.>
For the record, it's [Envelope: Clear Envelope]
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Thanks, I was so confused LOL!
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09-11-2018, 11:41 PM
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Sort(rearrange) selected track FX envelopes alphabetically:
Code:
function literalize(str) return str:gsub("[%(%)%.%%%+%-%*%?%[%]%^%$]", function(c) return "%" .. c end) end
function GetFXByGUID(GUID_t, line) for GUID_id = 1, #GUID_t do if line:match(literalize(GUID_t[GUID_id])) then return GUID_id end end end
function RearrangeAuto(tr)
if not tr then return end
local GUID_t = {}
for fx = 1, reaper.TrackFX_GetCount( tr) do GUID_t[#GUID_t+1]= reaper.TrackFX_GetFXGUID( tr, fx-1 ) end
local _, chunk = reaper.GetTrackStateChunk(tr, '', false)
local chunk_upd = chunk
for FXchunk in chunk:gmatch('BYPASS.-WAK') do
local fx_id = GetFXByGUID(GUID_t, FXchunk)
local env_com_chunk = FXchunk:match('<PARMENV.*>')
if env_com_chunk then
local GUID = FXchunk:match('{.-}')
local t = {}
if env_com_chunk then
for block in env_com_chunk:gmatch('<.->') do
local par_id = block:match('PARMENV (%d+)')
if par_id then par_id = tonumber(par_id) end
local param_name = ''
if par_id then
_, param_name = reaper.TrackFX_GetParamName( tr, fx_id-1, par_id, '' )
end
t[#t+1] = {block_str = block,
par_id = par_id,
param_name= param_name:lower(),
fx_id = fx_id}
end
end
table.sort(t, function(a, b) return a.param_name<b.param_name end)
local env_com_ret = ''
for i = 1, #t do env_com_ret = env_com_ret..'\n'..t[i].block_str end
local FX_chunk_upd = FXchunk:gsub(literalize(env_com_chunk), env_com_ret)
chunk_upd = chunk_upd:gsub(literalize(FXchunk), FX_chunk_upd)
end
end
local tr_id = reaper.CSurf_TrackToID( tr, false )
reaper.InsertTrackAtIndex( tr_id, false )
local tr2 = reaper.GetTrack(0,tr_id)
reaper.SetTrackStateChunk(tr2, chunk_upd, true)
reaper.DeleteTrack( tr )
reaper.TrackList_AdjustWindows( false )
reaper.UpdateArrange()
end
local tr= reaper.GetSelectedTrack(0,0)
RearrangeAuto(tr)
new_track >> delete_track hint is the workaround since there is no way to force graphic update for rearranged automation lanes in track state chunk (or I missed something somewhere). This also will NOT work with master track.
Last edited by mpl; 09-15-2018 at 01:34 PM.
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02-05-2020, 04:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teatime
* Request *
Rearrange Automation Lanes
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Yes, please.
What a mess I've made!
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02-11-2020, 02:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teatime
* Request *
Rearrange Automation Lanes
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Another +1 to this.
Oftentimes it's useful to visually rearrange the order of envelope lanes, especially in genres where many parameters of synths or effects are automated at the same time.
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02-12-2020, 06:34 AM
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+1, and to add to the fun, when AI are used in media lanes, use FIPM protocol to do away with "lanes" altogether for envelopes... i want a green volume AI to be able to be side by side, full height, with an orange pan AI
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02-12-2020, 06:35 AM
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Ideally automation lane selection and manipulation should just behave like tracks. There is no good reason for them to behave so differently.
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02-14-2020, 12:09 PM
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Additionally it makes more sense for automation lanes to behave as ambiguous data with outputs assigned.
A flow like such:
Create new automation lane manually, or it is made by the current method automatically (param > show in envelope lane, or the envelope button on the TCP).
Assign or switch assignment of lane to other FX parameters or track parameters in a tcp dropdown
Assign to multiple outputs with small + button allowing for another dropdown in the TCP
Scale the effect of the outputs with a scale knob beside each drop down, including inverting the effect.
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02-14-2020, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergler
Additionally it makes more sense for automation lanes to behave as ambiguous data with outputs assigned.
A flow like such:
Create new automation lane manually, or it is made by the current method automatically (param > show in envelope lane, or the envelope button on the TCP).
Assign or switch assignment of lane to other FX parameters or track parameters in a tcp dropdown
Assign to multiple outputs with small + button allowing for another dropdown in the TCP
Scale the effect of the outputs with a scale knob beside each drop down, including inverting the effect.
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Woooo.... I like very much.
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02-14-2020, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdBird
Ideally automation lane selection and manipulation should just behave like tracks. There is no good reason for them to behave so differently.
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yes yes
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04-18-2022, 12:40 AM
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please add this function +1
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11-07-2022, 01:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teatime
Found a hack:
1) Assign a shortcut to "remove automation lane"
2) Remove a lane and undo, this lane is now at the bottom of the list.
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doesn't work
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11-08-2022, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rotkäppchen
doesn't work
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Only FX envelopes (plugin parameter) can change order.
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