Old 09-18-2024, 02:53 PM   #1
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Starting a thread to discuss features and bugs especially where it concerns reaper

first of all, DON'T UPGRADE YET if you can help it. Just wait
There are Zero plugin companies that are ready.

Some What's New info for Sequoia from Apple
https://www.apple.com/ca/newsroom/20...ailable-today/

Thread of bugs on Reddit -- holy shit there are a lot of bugs
https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comme...es_megathread/

Bugs for REAPER users
- user Paaltio reported an issue with ReaImGui based scripts after upgrading. Christian is working on a fix.
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...postcount=1341
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MacBookAir M1 Sequoia
Fabfilters and Izotope and Sonible
No issues all runs fine
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I'm testing Sequoia on a secondary Mac and I haven't noticed any issue with the following for now:
  • RME Babyface
  • FabFilter Pro-Q3
  • Spitfire VSTs (SO, Chamber Strings, etc.)
  • Kontakt 7
  • UVI Workstation
I received an e-mail from AudioModeling saying that I shouldn't upgrade but I don't really use their instruments lately.
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Bugs for REAPER users
- user Paaltio reported an issue with ReaImGui based scripts after upgrading. Christian is working on a fix.
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...postcount=1341
And we didn't need to wait long, fixed in 0.9.3!
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Old 09-19-2024, 12:38 AM   #5
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If you're testing Sequoia already like me, be sure to note the corespotlightd bug mentioned in the Reddit thread. Someone getting 20TB of data written in a week on their SSD is insane, and however many writes your SSD can take in practice, you really don't want to be doing that.

Mine is doing ok it seems but good to keep an eye and disable Spotlight if it gets out of hand. You can see this information in Activity Monitor on the Disk tab by searching for corespotlightd

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Zero problems with Sequioa here.
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Zero problems with Sequioa here.
what made you want to update so soon?
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what made you want to update so soon?
Never had any problems with any major MacOS upgrades since I went Apple. (big sur) They don't even change much of the core OS anymore it feels like. I did check the GS thread first though=)
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Never had any problems with any major MacOS upgrades since I went Apple. (big sur) They don't even change much of the core OS anymore it feels like. I did check the GS thread first though=)
That's my feeling as well. Today's updates for macOS have a couple major technical changes which you need to be aware of (the new screen recording permissions in Sequoia being one, which seems to have no relevance for REAPER), but it's nothing like the days of Tiger or Leopard when the OS was still fairly new and you'd basically expect major architectural changes every time.

Now major new changes like moving to Swift or ARM (Apple Silicon) most importantly also exist in iOS devices which number in the billions, so very few things make it to our Macs that haven't gone through a lot of real world testing.

I originally felt a bit crummy about the "iOSification" of macOS (down to not calling it OS X anymore), but now sitting in front of a remarkably fast Apple Silicon based computer testing out the latest OS and everything seems to just work... I can see how being more integrated with the rest of the Apple ecosystem is the way to go.

That said, still never update just before a deadline! But I think sitting back multiple OS releases like people staying on Snow Leopard forever can probably be a thing of the past (unless you're a Finale user for life!). But if you want to be extra sure, certainly wait for the ok from all your plugin developers. I think it's very rare for REAPER itself to have any major issues.

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Old 09-21-2024, 10:27 AM   #10
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this is my first upgrade as I just went to mac when ventura came out. I wonder how long to stay on ventura as I do it for a living and have a lot of plugins running as well as needed hardware compatibility. Not really possible to check everything with every developer before upgrading and without missing anything.
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this is my first upgrade as I just went to mac when ventura came out. I wonder how long to stay on ventura as I do it for a living and have a lot of plugins running as well as needed hardware compatibility. Not really possible to check everything with every developer before upgrading and without missing anything.
Unless you have a specific reason to upgrade, I would stay with Ventura for as a long you can. I've been burned by MacOS upgrades several times before so I'm pretty cautious about upgrading to the next version until I feel like I really need to. No reason to change anything if it's working well for you.

When you are ready to update, try to wait til you have a little bit of downtime in your work, and make sure you do a Time Machine backup of your system beforehand so you can revert back if you need to.
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Old 10-05-2024, 05:06 AM   #12
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another vote here for "avoid Sequoia for now"

I run Reaper on a m3 mac mini music workstation, but unlike most Reaper users, I rarely this for digital-audio music creation and editing/processing.

Instead, as a jazz bassist, my main reaper use is to run a range of very specialized custom RPPs as practice/learning support tools, and use these for daily practice. These are all based on a bunch of DIY jsfx and scripts (lua) plus a few commercial and freeware FX. Love Reaper for its ability to enable this type of non-standard customization.

Probably foolishly, I went ahead and upgraded to macos 15 shortly after it came out, and most of my stuff broke. Reaper would crash with almost all my stuff. I then spent several fruitless, frustrating hours trying to isolate the problems. Was it Reaper itself or some of my jsfx effects, or what? I never reached any solid conclusions.

Eventually, I gave up, and then spent another few painful hours reverting the whole system to Sonoma, wiping my main drive then a time machine backup. After this process I then had a bunch of other problems, mostly file structure and security-related permissions, etc, so still a couple more painful hours sorting this out.

Main takeaway was that I won't upgrade until both reaper and various third party add-ons (and maybe Sequoia itself) have had more time to adapt. Sad, because there seems to be some new functionality in Sequoia I'd like to use. A painful lesson learned !
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another vote here for "avoid Sequoia for now"

I run Reaper on a m3 mac mini music workstation, but unlike most Reaper users, I rarely this for digital-audio music creation and editing/processing.

Instead, as a jazz bassist, my main reaper use is to run a range of very specialized custom RPPs as practice/learning support tools, and use these for daily practice. These are all based on a bunch of DIY jsfx and scripts (lua) plus a few commercial and freeware FX. Love Reaper for its ability to enable this type of non-standard customization.

Probably foolishly, I went ahead and upgraded to macos 15 shortly after it came out, and most of my stuff broke. Reaper would crash with almost all my stuff. I then spent several fruitless, frustrating hours trying to isolate the problems. Was it Reaper itself or some of my jsfx effects, or what? I never reached any solid conclusions.

Eventually, I gave up, and then spent another few painful hours reverting the whole system to Sonoma, wiping my main drive then a time machine backup. After this process I then had a bunch of other problems, mostly file structure and security-related permissions, etc, so still a couple more painful hours sorting this out.

Main takeaway was that I won't upgrade until both reaper and various third party add-ons (and maybe Sequoia itself) have had more time to adapt. Sad, because there seems to be some new functionality in Sequoia I'd like to use. A painful lesson learned !
Really interested in your Reaper?practise setup. What does that involve?

I once used reaper to give me a basic loooong delay without any repeats for some violin practise - check my intonation, essentially.
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Old 10-15-2024, 11:25 AM   #14
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Default Sequoia issue with Rodilab Color Palette

After upgrading to Sequoia I had an issue with Color Palette by Rodilab (in ReaPack)

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* Mac Mini, M1, Sequoia 15.0.1
* Reaper v7.25

Symptom:
* Trying to open the Color Palette, the UI does not appear.
* Subsequent attempts to open it generates an error that it's already open.
* After this, the Reaper play cursor does not move visually when pressing Play. The cursor does advance, the project plays, but visually the cursor remains at the start position.

Fix:
* Extensions | ReaPack | Synchronize Packages
* Re-install Color Palette from ReaPack "Browse Packages" (I don't know if this is required)

After the above two steps, Color Palette runs successfully.
I haven't noticed any other issues with Reaper v7.25 and MacOS Sequoia 15.0.1
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Default No audio input though audio devices are working.

(I am a hobbyist home recordist and app developer so I have a good reason for upgrading to Sequoia.)
I have a MacBook Air M1 running 10.15.01, Reaper 7.26 and use an Audient EVO8 USB-C and a PreSonos AUDIOBOX USB 96 (USB-A connected through an Apple A to C adapter) audio devices.
It was with some trepidation that I started Reaper but all seemed to be fine, it didn't crash, the interfaces both showed up in the Audio Devices settings and my recently completed project played back as normal.
Then I started a new project to work on some new guitar tones. I inserted a track, selected the correct input from the EVO8, armed it and made sure that monitoring was on and ... nothing, no input signal. So I tried with the PreSonos, same thing and then with the system microphone. Zilch.
To double check that the interfaces were working I recorded, successfully, a voice memo and a couple of voice notes in their respective apps.
So it looks like there is a problem at Reaper's end. I am interested to know if anybody else has come across this.
Fortunately, I was going to be spending the next few weeks on my other hobby anyway so hopefully the upcoming Sequoia update or the Reaper devs will resolve the issue. I could be missing something obvious, too.

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I could be missing something obvious, too.
I didn't see you mention checking if reaper has permission to use the microphone in system settings.
That would explain playback but not recording working
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I have a MacBook Air M1 running 10.15.01
Surely you mean macOS 15.01 (Sequoia), and not macOS 10.15.01 (Catalina).
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I just got a used Macbook M1 Max and it came with Sequoia already installed. Until now zero problems with plugins from Plugin Alliance, Melda, IK Multimedia, Izotope...

I wonder if it might have to do with not having to upgrade in the first place. Maybe things start breaking during the update process itself?
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hi friends if you use SoundSource by rogue amoeba, it's kinda broken in Sequoia.

When open, my input levels are super low. I've been emailing back and forth with the developers trying to troubleshoot this but they haven't been able to fix this.

I like SoundSource since it makes me able to use my volume keys to control my interface's volume. But now I can't use it and it's honestly such a pain having to use a hardware knob to turn up/down my volume 🫠
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I didn't see you mention checking if reaper has permission to use the microphone in system settings.
That would explain playback but not recording working
Hi Jon, Thanks for your help.
That has occurred to me since my post but I can't find where in System Settings to find out about permissions. Since I had done a recent clean install, to get rid of that blob of Other files clogging up my drive, I would have thought I would get the mic permissions dialog on first opening Reaper.

Update: I found the setting and all is well. Thanks again.
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Surely you mean macOS 15.01 (Sequoia), and not macOS 10.15.01 (Catalina).
I'm an old git and old habits die hard. At least I got the name correct. 🥸
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I didn't see you mention checking if reaper has permission to use the microphone in system settings.
That would explain playback but not recording working
Thank You! You helped put an end to several hours of pain and suffering over 3 days. I thought it was a Reaper setting because Garage Band “just worked”.

Honestly, I had given up and don’t even have Sequoia yet. I was just browsing this thread to see how Sequoia might be going in general. 😂

Again - THANK YOU! Reaper Rules!
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Sequoia is preinstalled on MacMini m4.
i've read that sequoia doesn't allow sideloading (=only appstore allowed)
https://youtu.be/X6HZlpPGFf0
how does this affect Reaper?
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Do yo mean "no other apps than the ones on the App Store"? If so, no, not true, at all.

I'm on 15.1.1, and I have Reaper, Nuendo, Pro Tools, Adobe apps, and so on.
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Do yo mean "no other apps than the ones on the App Store"?
yes, that's what the youtube video said. (i would trust apple to do such a thing.)
thanks for clarifying.
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yes, that's what the youtube video said. (i would trust apple to do such a thing.)
thanks for clarifying.
What YT video said that?
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Sequoia is preinstalled on MacMini m4.
i've read that sequoia doesn't allow sideloading (=only appstore allowed)
https://youtu.be/X6HZlpPGFf0
how does this affect Reaper?
Side loading is still possible, unsigned apps are where it gets weird.
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Side loading is still possible, unsigned apps are where it gets weird.
To help with this problem: https://github.com/alienator88/Sentinel
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another vote here for "avoid Sequoia for now"

[some text deleted, see my original post above]

Main takeaway was that I won't upgrade until both reaper and various third party add-ons (and maybe Sequoia itself) have had more time to adapt.
This thread seems to have reached no clear conclusions, with some recent posts reporting no trouble with Sequoia and others still raising some questions. My Reaper use involves several lengthy Lua scripts using lots of Reaper functions via the API, plus a couple of my own JSFX effects. I was not able to discover what was leading to Reaper crashes when I first tried Sequoia, so I went through the trouble of reverting to Sonoma.

I am am still on Sonoma 14.7.2 and REAPER v7.15. I am wondering if anyone has more recent details on whether v7.30 has shown any improvement in compatibility with Sequoia's latest versions.
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Sorry, this won't help you much but I haven't had any trouble with the scripts and JSFX that are part of my daily workflow.

I DO have trouble with Izotope RX though when trying to use it as an external editor. After rendering the file in REAPER, RX opens up correctly and then simply crashes without a warning.
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I DO have trouble with Izotope RX though when trying to use it as an external editor. After rendering the file in REAPER, RX opens up correctly and then simply crashes without a warning.
does RX standalone work without reaper sending the file?
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does RX standalone work without reaper sending the file?
Yes it does and this is my current workaround. I have to look for the file in finder and open in directly in RX. Then I overwrite the source file and it updates as a new take in REAPER.

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This thread seems to have reached no clear conclusions, with some recent posts reporting no trouble with Sequoia and others still raising some questions. My Reaper use involves several lengthy Lua scripts using lots of Reaper functions via the API, plus a couple of my own JSFX effects. I was not able to discover what was leading to Reaper crashes when I first tried Sequoia, so I went through the trouble of reverting to Sonoma.

I am am still on Sonoma 14.7.2 and REAPER v7.15. I am wondering if anyone has more recent details on whether v7.30 has shown any improvement in compatibility with Sequoia's latest versions.
There is no difference between Sonoma and Sequoia as far as Reaper is concerned.
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Yes it does and this is my current workaround. I have to look for the file in finder and open in directly in RX. Then I overwrite the source file and it updates as a new take in REAPER.
I just realized that it doesn't happen when I am using only core audio (Macbook speakers). So it might have to do with my audio driver (RME Babyface). Will investigate further...
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