|
|
|
12-09-2020, 08:10 AM
|
#1
|
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 4,327
|
v6.18+dev1209 - December 9 2020
v6.18+dev1209 - December 9 2020
- * Includes branch: optimized FX preset management
- * Includes branch: 2nd pass render
- * Includes feature branch: per-chain PDC mode and overhaul/optimization
- * Includes feature branch: razor editing
- + FX: add option to run anticipative FX synchronously during playback start
- + Razor edit: add option to always trim content behind razor edits
- # Razor edit: handle auto-crossfade and trim-behind options similarly to media item edits
This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.
Changelog - Pre-Releases
Generated by X-Raym's REAPER ChangeLog to BBCode
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 08:12 AM
|
#2
|
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Italy
Posts: 4,327
|
+ FX: add option to run anticipative FX synchronously during playback start
* Includes branch: optimized FX preset management
Is there additional info on these?
Thanks,
Mario
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 08:37 AM
|
#3
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 95
|
Hi! After changing output directory via "Browse..." the "Apply" button stays disabled. I don't know in which pre-release version it stopped working, sorry.
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 09:01 AM
|
#4
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: South, UK
Posts: 14,218
|
Agreed..
This "+ FX: add option to run anticipative FX synchronously during playback start"
Seems like it is useful but not quite sure where it helps. I definitely have some occasional glitches on playback as have reaper set to not run fx unless playing. Hopefully this can help?
__________________
subproject FRs click here
note: don't search for my pseudonym on the web. The "musicbynumbers" you find is not me or the name I use for my own music.
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 09:01 AM
|
#5
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: home is where the heart is
Posts: 12,110
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mabian
+ FX: add option to run anticipative FX synchronously during playback start
(...)
Is there additional info on these?
|
In the help text in Preferences it says:
Quote:
Limits anticipative (render-ahead) FX processing to realtime during playback start, improving compatibility with some plug-ins.
|
Hm..not that much info imo...
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 09:05 AM
|
#6
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: France
Posts: 915
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mabian
v6.18+dev1209 - December 9 2020
* Includes branch: optimized FX preset management
|
When I saw this I hoped that there will be an improvement to the "Move up" / "Move down" current way of organizing the Presets, but I have found nothing new :-(
So what is this ?
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 09:12 AM
|
#7
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 187
|
Chain PDC mode option "Ignore plugin delay" is really great. I use it for my master track and some other sub-group tracks (all loaded with hi-latency plugins). In my case, these tracks actually don't need any plugin compensation. Dropouts and crackles are completely gone, i can play project at 64 samples. I have issues using 512/1024 samples before (CPU load was less than 10%).
Hopefully i am not celebrating too soon - have to do additional tests ASAP
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 09:28 AM
|
#8
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 11
|
Quote:
+ Razor edit: add option to always trim content behind razor edits
# Razor edit: handle auto-crossfade and trim-behind options similarly to media item edits
|
Hello,
Is it possible to add these options inside the mouse modifier, please?
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 09:35 AM
|
#9
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: South, UK
Posts: 14,218
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1982
Hello,
Is it possible to add these options inside the mouse modifier, please?
|
This definitely gets my vote again
Would speed up workflow a lot to have this thanks!
__________________
subproject FRs click here
note: don't search for my pseudonym on the web. The "musicbynumbers" you find is not me or the name I use for my own music.
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 09:40 AM
|
#10
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,924
|
Mouse modifier: more simple and faster.
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 10:17 AM
|
#11
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Joisey
Posts: 6,027
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm duchenne
When I saw this I hoped that there will be an improvement to the "Move up" / "Move down" current way of organizing the Presets, but I have found nothing new :-(
So what is this ?
|
From the prior release notes I took it as them improving the speed when dealing with very large numbers of presets. I don't believe there's a functional difference, just performance.
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 10:21 AM
|
#12
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 3,127
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by zabukowski
Chain PDC mode option "Ignore plugin delay" is really great. I use it for my master track and some other sub-group tracks (all loaded with hi-latency plugins). In my case, these tracks actually don't need any plugin compensation. Dropouts and crackles are completely gone, i can play project at 64 samples. I have issues using 512/1024 samples before (CPU load was less than 10%).
Hopefully i am not celebrating too soon - have to do additional tests ASAP
|
Can you explain why your busses don't need PDC? I'm super curious about this because I do mega processing on subgroups (DRUM/INST/BASS) and same thing - i9-10900k flying at under 10% CPU but if Oeksound Soothe is involved then the thing is toast at even moderate buffer settings.
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 10:32 AM
|
#13
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Spain
Posts: 7,269
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nofish
In the help text in Preferences it says:
Hm..not that much info imo...
|
I wonder if it is related to this https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=244106
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 11:23 AM
|
#14
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 187
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
Can you explain why your busses don't need PDC? I'm super curious about this because I do mega processing on subgroups (DRUM/INST/BASS) and same thing - i9-10900k flying at under 10% CPU but if Oeksound Soothe is involved then the thing is toast at even moderate buffer settings.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
Can you explain why your busses don't need PDC? I'm super curious about this because I do mega processing on subgroups (DRUM/INST/BASS) and same thing - i9-10900k flying at under 10% CPU but if Oeksound Soothe is involved then the thing is toast at even moderate buffer settings.
|
Unfortunately, you can't do that with tracks, which are playing in "parallel", like subgroups - they must be latency compensated. But you can do it with "serial" channels, which are sending 100% signal from one to another chanel and so on including master track. When mixing, i am regulary using few "serial" channels before master channel. They are always loaded with demanding hi-latency plugins, so disabling latency compensation there really helps.
It really depends a lot of your mixing template.
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 04:11 PM
|
#15
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,809
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by zabukowski
Unfortunately, you can't do that with tracks, which are playing in "parallel", like subgroups - they must be latency compensated. But you can do it with "serial" channels, which are sending 100% signal from one to another chanel and so on including master track. When mixing, i am regulary using few "serial" channels before master channel. They are always loaded with demanding hi-latency plugins, so disabling latency compensation there really helps.
It really depends a lot of your mixing template.
|
sorry to hi-jack but have you tried making a pre-master bus and putting your master bus plugins on there. You can get a huge performance gain doing that.
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 06:58 PM
|
#16
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Leipzig
Posts: 6,630
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by kytdkut
Hi! After changing output directory via "Browse..." the "Apply" button stays disabled. I don't know in which pre-release version it stopped working, sorry.
|
In the Render to File-dialog?
|
|
|
12-09-2020, 07:55 PM
|
#17
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New York
Posts: 781
|
Auto-cross fades don't work when copying and pasting razor edits:
Visual feedback when dragging razor edits is buggy/inconsistent depending on the x-fade and trim settings. If both settings are on the trim behavior is not previewed while dragging:
If both settings are off, trim behavior is previewed while dragging, even though it doesn't actually trim once the mouse is released:
Last edited by RobinGShore; 12-09-2020 at 08:25 PM.
|
|
|
12-10-2020, 12:15 AM
|
#18
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 187
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by daverich
sorry to hi-jack but have you tried making a pre-master bus and putting your master bus plugins on there. You can get a huge performance gain doing that.
|
When i was talking about "serial" channels, i was actually talking about pre-master buses (either using folders or sends). I always have at least two of them. Disabling plugin latency on these channels helps a lot in my case - before i was having issues with 512 samples, now i have smooth playback with 64 channels. It's worth to mention that latency on pre-master channels is usually from 5000-10000 samples.
In any case, I have a feeling a lot of things related to PDC have been really improved with the latest dev version.
|
|
|
12-10-2020, 02:50 AM
|
#19
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 1,344
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mabian
|
Possible to get some techinical background for this?
__________________
Magnus Lindberg Productions - VRTKL Audio - Redmount Studios
magnuslindberg.com
|
|
|
12-10-2020, 08:33 AM
|
#20
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 53
|
Razor edit - relative grid and tooltip
Razor edit still needs the option to follow relative grid in my opinion, like its doing when moving items/envelopes etc using time selection. Right now its snapping to grid despite having enabled relative grid. Also needs to show tooltip, or at least have the option.
|
|
|
12-10-2020, 08:48 AM
|
#21
|
Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: South, UK
Posts: 14,218
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rasmusmarshagen
Razor edit still needs the option to follow relative grid in my opinion, like its doing when moving items/envelopes etc using time selection. Right now its snapping to grid despite having enabled relative grid. Also needs to show tooltip, or at least have the option.
|
Good point. It should follow the snap relative grid option for sure
__________________
subproject FRs click here
note: don't search for my pseudonym on the web. The "musicbynumbers" you find is not me or the name I use for my own music.
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:37 AM.
|