Old 12-29-2016, 02:19 PM   #1
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v5.32pre3 - December 29 2016
+ API: add PCM_Source_GetPeaks, GetMediaItemTake_Peaks
+ Free item positioning: reposition items after dragging in new media items or gluing [t=183298]
+ MIDI editor: faster loading of very large .reascale files
+ Notation editor: draw voiced rests farther from the staff
+ Notation editor: fix erratic tuplet bracket positioning on grand staff [p=1775774]
+ Notation editor: fix potential hang in MusicXML export [t=185288]
+ Notation editor: prevent hang when identifying chords with large .reascale file loaded [p=1775703]
# Notation editor: ensure previous chord markings are deleted when identifying new chords [p=1775791]
# peaks display window: remember position correctly on windows
# peaks display window: support escape/Cmd+W to close window
# peaks settings window: re-open on startup
# spectral peaks: improved log range control, add options to set full spectrum per octave, etc
# spectral peaks: improved pitch detection (rebuild peaks required)

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Old 12-29-2016, 02:21 PM   #2
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v5.32pre3 - December 29 2016
+ API: add PCM_Source_GetPeaks, GetMediaItemTake_Peaks
+ Free item positioning: reposition items after dragging in new media items or gluing [t=183298]
+ MIDI editor: faster loading of very large .reascale files
+ Notation editor: draw voiced rests farther from the staff
+ Notation editor: fix erratic tuplet bracket positioning on grand staff [p=1775774]
+ Notation editor: fix potential hang in MusicXML export [t=185288]
+ Notation editor: prevent hang when identifying chords with large .reascale file loaded [p=1775703]
# Notation editor: ensure previous chord markings are deleted when identifying new chords [p=1775791]
# peaks display window: remember position correctly on windows
# peaks display window: support escape/Cmd+W to close window
# peaks settings window: re-open on startup
# spectral peaks: improved log range control, add options to set full spectrum per octave, etc
# spectral peaks: improved pitch detection (rebuild peaks required)
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Old 12-29-2016, 05:59 PM   #3
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Oh my!!! The octave options are amazingly powerful and useful, thansk devs!

You can totally see not only each note but breaths in vocals are black (with the right threshold setting). Makes editing and looking for pattern/bar starts so easy!

Don't forget to rebuild peaks if you want to try them and also..This is reaper guys! right click everything (that's where the octave options are!

One thing I did notice though is that a peak rebuild only took up 12% of my total CPU (on a 4.3ghz quad I7) but, it was equally spread across all cores (and hyperthreads) so I imagine this is on purpose to allow us to carry on working?

If so, an option to "finish peaks" would be great to speed up the process (if possible).
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Old 12-29-2016, 06:20 PM   #4
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I know this is probably because it's not optimised yet but I'm getting quite "jerky"/low framerate scrolling when zoomed in quite far (both vertically and horizontally).

With either hand or browser style scrolling.

If I turn peaks off, it's ok again.

I do have a high res screen though at 3440x1440 and a 2 other screen full of reaper and sws windows and toolbars so maybe that's it.

CPU raises to about 12% but that's not much lower in normal peak scrolling either,

Anyone else seeing this?

(I'll check my laptop tomorrow morning too.)

EDIT: just noticed it has anti-aliasing built in.. maybe that's it? don't thing I can turn it off for spectral peaks?
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Nice evolution so far.

Some form of preset save/recall of peak display settings seems a logical step.

And as previously suggested, lock item peaks so changes to global settings affect only unlocked items?

Seems a simple solution for having different settings on different items.
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And as previously suggested, lock item peaks so changes to global settings affect only unlocked items?

Seems a simple solution for having different settings on different items.
It might not be that simple but hopefully it is

Maybe what would work better is a tick box option in spectra settings that's called "only apply current settings to selected items"

That might be faster to work with.

Presets though.. for sure
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Also,

On a 40 item recording. The scrolling has all of a sudden gone super slow/jerky. Even when zoomed out.

Tried a rebuild and didn't change.
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Also,

On a 40 item recording. The scrolling has all of a sudden gone super slow/jerky. Even when zoomed out.

Tried a rebuild and didn't change.
I haven't tried any projects with a large number of tracks yet but I have noticed the slow/jerky response which gets worse as zoom levels increase.
I'm on Win 10 x64 here with 1920x1080 display, i5 3317 CPU and in built graphics (Intel HD4000).
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Ah yeah, optimizing some of the changes in pre3 (the performance should return to pre2 levels in the next build)

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Ah yeah, optimizing some of the changes in pre3 (the performance should return to pre2 levels in the next build)
I noticed the performance degradation in pre3, but forgot to mention about it...Anyway, looks like a problem for other people too...
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Ah yeah, optimizing some of the changes in pre3 (the performance should return to pre2 levels in the next build)
Great news!

This really is a super useful feature Justin. Thanks!
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Hmm..

Was wondering if it would be useful (if even possible) to have an octave mode whereby we could easily see if a note in a monophonic instrument was out of tune or not by its colour fading more to white the more out of tune it was?

Especially since pitch shifting an item works in real time. This could really help with tuning.

I'll try to explain roughly here but probably need to draw it to make better sense

What if.. Each actual musical pitch (say exactly 440) was a solid colour (say red for 440) but then started to fade to white (via pink) as the pitch drifted more out of tune so that 50 cents above (or below) 440, you would see the out of tune note as white.

The next note above 440 would be a solid colour again though but would fade out to white as you went either 50 cents up or down from it.

This would make out of tune notes light in colour but able to get towards a solid colour as you tuned the pitch of the item.
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Hmm. I wonder when using the octave preset.

Could there be a pitch instead of frequency annotated on the spectral view window? and zoomed into just one octave too?

That way, at a glance we can work out what pitch is what colour but, I suppose we would get use to it after a while anyway!
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working well for vocals, flute.. not very well for bass and percussion. as you can see here: 5.32pre3
noise threshold doesn't seem to affect them either

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Heda.. did you rebuild peaks after installing this pre?

Maybe it's a bug with stereo files?

I found it worked really well on the bass guitar track I had in the test demo I was using.

Maybe we need an option though to colour by the "lowest" dominant frequency rather than just the dominant as strong overtones in certain synth bass and bass guitars might focus on the 2nd harmonic more?
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# Notation editor: ensure previous chord markings are deleted when identifying new chords [p=1775791]
This seems to work, but there are still three conditions where the new chord markings are created but the old markings are not deleted.
- if Chords/Other is used to type in a chord name.
- if the existing chord name is edited.
- if the position of chord marker has been moved on timeline.

These might be as intended, so fwiw.

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working well for vocals, flute.. not very well for bass and percussion. as you can see here: 5.32pre3
noise threshold doesn't seem to affect them either

where is this menu option
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Heda - do you supply studio visitors with sunglasses? Blimey that is... er.... lurid???
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FOUND IT

WHERE HAS THIS MENU BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE
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The "Peaks display settings" was added in this prerelease cycle...
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The "Peaks display settings" was added in this prerelease cycle...
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Devs, could you please look at this(FIPM is still broken): http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...5&postcount=12
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Digging up the most relevent pre-release I could find concerning EXPORT XML.
I recently migrated to Linux.
- When I export to MusicXML, even though specified in the dialog box, Reaper still exports a PDF file (did not have that in Windows)
- I tried renaming the PDF file to XML afterward, but it does not load
- I added the extension 'XML' as an extension in Reaper's dialog box and this is my successful workaround.
- When imported in Muscore, I still get the 'file corrupt' message (as I did during my days in Windows) but the file still loads.

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