View Poll Results: Would you use this feature?
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01-04-2012, 04:12 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: France
Posts: 20
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Feedback to MIDI controller
The assignation of MIDI controls for any parameter of the FX plugins is a great feature. It allows for example the use of a BCR2000 control surface to tweak the EQ of the currently selected track.
But there is a serious lack here: There is no feedback to the BCR2000 to update the encoder positions when changing track or when the parameter value is changed by the software.
This could be solved by adding MIDI control outputs in the MIDI configuration panel. Then each parameter which is configured to receive MIDI control data would send back data on the defined output ports.
This would also answer the request for a 'generic' control surface.
FR: http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=4388
Last edited by ZeeByeZon; 07-02-2013 at 01:25 AM.
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01-08-2012, 08:09 PM
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#2
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 9
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Feedback to MIDI controller
+1 for any approach to providing functionality for data feedback for any 'generic' MIDI controller - not just the ones available in the "External Controller" section of REAPER Preferences.
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01-09-2012, 01:10 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 344
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+1,000,000,416
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01-19-2012, 10:40 PM
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#4
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 272
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+1
To quote myself...
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Originally Posted by Scoox
+1
I will add that this is possible in PreSonus Studio One:
S1 forum member Bathmutz introduced me to this wonderful feature and I must say I am very impressed! Not sure all controllers accept MIDI feedback but my BCR2000 sure does and it's very very nice.
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01-22-2012, 04:22 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 17
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+ 1 + 1. needed. I pray.
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01-30-2012, 03:42 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 22
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+1, essential !
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06-26-2012, 02:11 PM
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#7
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yagonnawantthatcowbell
+1,000,000,416
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+1 more than that
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06-26-2012, 03:18 PM
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#8
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: home is where the heart is
Posts: 12,096
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Wow there's a thread requesting Midi feedback which I haven't +1'ed yet, how could I miss it ?
+1
@ benebomper:
Not sure if it helps you, but as Banned said, if you're using OSC there actually is parameter feedback available (in OSC, not Midi though)
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07-07-2012, 06:26 AM
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#9
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: France
Posts: 20
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No, even with OSC tou cannot get feedback from the VST plugins...
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04-11-2012, 04:46 AM
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#10
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 12
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+1 Googolplex
I need it for my iPad-based lemur!
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10-08-2012, 12:24 PM
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#11
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Reaper HAS send control via midi !!!
Posts: 4,031
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeByeZon
Then _each_ parameter which is configured to receive MIDI control data would send back data on the defined output ports.
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Good suggestion, except I would not want this for EACH parameter, so there could be just an additional checkbox telling "send this parameter also via control output port using same midi-channel and value".
I would use this then only for those "most important parameters" in the whole project, e.g. track-volumes mainly, 24 track volumes at one glance in BCR2000 for example. In the above 4 * 8 controls, I would probably use only 1 * 8 controls to display some other important parameters, maybe some effect values. But seeing those 24 track volumes at any time would be the biggest benefit for me. It would allow GUI-less operation of Reaper.
On preset 1 you could see your left-deck-songs 24 track volumes in BCR2000,
On preset 2 you could see your right-deck-songs 24 track volumes in BCR2000,
and you would switch among those presets on BCR2000 while switching among "decks".
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10-08-2012, 12:53 PM
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#12
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 227
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Ideally reaper would send feedback for every parameter or action you assign, and you can choose whatever setup you'd like. VST's, actions, etc...
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10-08-2012, 12:58 PM
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#13
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Reaper HAS send control via midi !!!
Posts: 4,031
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowHead
Ideally reaper would send feedback for every parameter or action you assign, and you can choose whatever setup you'd like. VST's, actions, etc...
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For you "ideally" maybe, what if you have assigned more than 1000 parameters, well those could technically not even pass the midi cable? So a selection mechanism would make sense. Only if you do not use more than 1000 parameters does not mean nobody does. 32 parameters on the other hand could be handled easily.
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10-08-2012, 01:10 PM
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#14
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 227
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonE
For you "ideally" maybe, what if you have assigned more than 1000 parameters, well those could technically not even pass the midi cable? So a selection mechanism would make sense. Only if you do not use more than 1000 parameters does not mean nobody does. 32 parameters on the other hand could be handled easily.
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You and I are not having the same conversation here.
"ideally" means you get what you want, I get what I want.
Last edited by ArrowHead; 10-08-2012 at 01:17 PM.
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10-08-2012, 02:22 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 227
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonE
I just wanted to emphasize sending automatically for EVERY assigned parameter is not always good, and you suggested just that, at least I understood it this way. If not, our English understanding is different.
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It should only send what you're adjusting when you're adjusting it. Very simple - you adjust a knob in reaper, it effects your knob on your control surface. This should work for all parameters and actions assigned to a controller.
Same page?
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01-16-2013, 07:12 PM
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#16
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 105
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+1
thanks,
t
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01-17-2013, 12:29 AM
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#17
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 108
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Following this fuckin' situation I started to learn Reaper's OSC and also I started to develop an midi_cc->osc mapping application which will fit to reapers osc and will be very modular ( meaning you will be able to use any midi controller ( also with feedback ) ). When it will be done, I'll publish it into RIDP.
Current state is that I should control any FX plugin in reaper and I also receive feedback osc messages for it. Also I know which track/plugin is currently selected/opened, so application will be able to automatically switch between presets(mappings) depending on what are you doing in Reaper. Because I still haven't bcr2000 ( is on way ), I can't fully test reaper->app->bcr and bcr->app->reaper path, but hope it will work well.
Whenever it will be in first pre-alpha releasable state, you'll be informed in this thread.
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03-26-2016, 09:32 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Cologne
Posts: 1,636
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I really need that!
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04-07-2016, 08:35 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6
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Bump!
Hey Devs, it's only been over 4 years that people have been asking for this feature..which is available in several other DAWS. Every time a new release comes out, I read down the list of changes and see 25 new features I think are great but not that useful to me, with the hope of seeing the one feature that I feel is still really missing from an otherwise perfect program.. damn.
Is this that difficult to implement?
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10-04-2013, 06:09 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 27
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It says I have already voted
Just goes to show how desperately I need "Midi Feedback" to control my BCF2000.
This really sucks.
Kiff
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Last edited by kiff; 12-10-2013 at 05:16 PM.
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11-01-2013, 12:25 PM
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#21
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 47
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+10000000
just voted here and in the official FR.
I did some work using pd and the BCR2000 to map feedback via OSC, and it was working quite nicely. But the software was so complex in the end, and I did not use it for a year or so. And now honestly it feels like too much of a hassle to get PD and OSC back to working.
So, please provide MIDI feedback for learned parameters!
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01-19-2014, 05:16 AM
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#22
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 6
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Learned VST Parameter MIDI Feedback
Any news on whether this feature will be implemented - its a must and will make reaper the ultimate perfect DAW!
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01-22-2014, 08:59 AM
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#23
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 6
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Bump - this feature is a must in order to make control surfaces useable with fx parameters - soft takeover and relative mode are awful and unuseable
BUMP FOR THIS FEATURE!!!
ONWARDS!!!
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02-03-2014, 06:15 AM
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#24
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 6
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Bump = come on dudes!
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10-11-2014, 06:29 AM
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#25
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 272
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I find every REAPER update is just a dispassionate list of tiny changes that only 0.000001% of the user base will benefit from. Examples include:
+ API: fixed RenderFileSection() return value
+ JSFX: added support for reading various media types that REAPER supports (including FLAC, WavPack, etc)
+ Localization: allowed localization of toolbar names
+ ReaScript: avoid excess Undo_OnStateChange() calls and stale undo blocks for non-deferred scripts
These updates are great and I do appreciate the fact that devs are very detailed-focused but to be honest most users don't see any value in them. Reaper has never been my main DAW because it lacks in many areas and IMO it hasn't changed much (functionally speaking) for a very long time. I still hope one day it will become my main DAW though.
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01-03-2015, 05:18 PM
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#26
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 28
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Anyone know if this has been sorted yet? Just got passed a BCR and the workflow sucks arse without this feature. Devs we need this!!
Looks like this has been done here: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=81818
No idea how to do it but it looks like it is now possible if anyone else is looking for this.
Last edited by Famousbyfive; 01-03-2015 at 06:54 PM.
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01-05-2015, 01:57 PM
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#27
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 28
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I was wrong. This hasn't been done but for the love of God please, please, please make this happen. Please.
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03-26-2016, 07:44 AM
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#28
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Middle England
Posts: 45
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Just another bump for this.
Still can't believe this has not been sorted yet with MIDI controllers being so ubiquitous nowadays.
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01-24-2016, 04:25 PM
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#29
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Finland
Posts: 792
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Oh...
Once again feature that should have been in Reaper for years but isn't there.
I wonder why I keep coming upon these that have been requested for 4+ years and no cigar :/
And it's not even anything unreasonable or highly special really...
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03-16-2016, 04:01 AM
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#30
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 116
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Yes please, is it so hard to implement?
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03-16-2016, 01:54 PM
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#31
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Currently in Armenia
Posts: 1,114
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Oh man I remember back when I created this request. Still hasn't been done
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03-16-2016, 02:20 PM
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#32
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendetta V
Oh man I remember back when I created this request. Still hasn't been done
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http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=1638559
check out this script, might help in some circumstances. helped me.
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03-17-2016, 02:05 AM
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#33
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mccrabney
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Thanks, i haven't seen this!
Unfortunately i don't have a controller yet for trying out if that works. I posted over there, maybe somebody can have a quick check if that works for plugins on audio tracks, too...
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07-14-2019, 06:09 PM
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#34
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 272
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It's been over 7.5 years since this FR was posted, and 239 votes in favour, minus one vote against (because we all have bad days)—doesn't look like this ranks very high on Cocko's to-do list! And yet this is one of the first missing features new Reaper users notice, just like user "vittopascu" above.
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07-14-2019, 09:56 PM
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#35
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
Posts: 14,686
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07-15-2019, 11:10 AM
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#36
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: home is where the heart is
Posts: 12,096
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07-15-2019, 02:06 PM
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#37
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
Posts: 14,686
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-Michael
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08-11-2019, 04:41 AM
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#38
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
Posts: 14,686
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A new Feature request, and providing a "native" (only by what is distributed with Reaper, no scripts) way of doing midi feedback from FX parameters.
See -> https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=224004
-Michael
Last edited by mschnell; 08-11-2019 at 04:49 AM.
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