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10-09-2009, 02:10 AM
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Keyboard no longer working, but only in REAPER!
Hello,
a very strange thing happened yesterday while using REAPER: keyboard completely ceased working, but only in REAPER: I could work with mouse, but all keyboard shortcuts stopped working, I couldn't even use ALT-F4 to close the application and other system shortcuts!
The keys worked anywhere else in the computer - desktop, windows, notepad and so on. I had to restart REAPER to have it work again with keyboard.
I suspect some keyboard hook used by REAPER went south...
Is this problem known?
Thanks,
Mario
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10-09-2009, 03:46 AM
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Human being with feelings
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yes, it happened to me, but it was user error.
It could be that you accidentally set it to send midi data instead, check your midi preferences, and if you have the virtual keyboard in use
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05-03-2010, 03:02 PM
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keyboard suddenly not working!
I searched and found this post from Mario - the exact same thing just happened to me! Keyboard shortcuts don't work...I can double click and re-name tracks, but that's about it...spacerbar, W, CTRL+ -- nothing works!
I don't use MIDI, and as far as I can tell I have not activated the virtual keyboard.
Anybody know what happened??
Thanks
Matt
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05-09-2010, 09:33 AM
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Just happened to me today 3.52p1 Lost all ability to use keyboard (spacebar, delete, etc). Never happened before. Just confirming. Fresh install of winXP, Intel machine. Was dragging and dropping items from the Media explorer as well.
~Rob.
Last edited by junioreq; 05-09-2010 at 09:45 AM.
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05-10-2010, 12:01 AM
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Human being with feelings
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keyboard not working
Hi,
I figured out that my new anti-virus software (Comodo) put Reaper in it's "sandbox", some isolation trick, that seemed to cut off communication with the keyboard. I set Comodo to let Reaper run outside it's sandbox, and problem solved. So look for any 'behind the scenes' things your firewall/antivirus/spam program might be doing...
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05-10-2010, 08:01 AM
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Ahhh! I just downloaded and installed that 2 days ago! I bet that's it, thank you!
~Rob.
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05-10-2010, 08:08 AM
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No Comodo here (antivir) and no sandbox, but I'll double check it.
Thanks,
Mario
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05-10-2010, 08:31 AM
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I can confirm this. No Comodo, no Sandbox. I was working on reaper and then I minimize it to my desktop to write something down in Notepad and keyboard was not working; I had to maximize and minimize Reaper to desktop to make it work again. It's happened a lot of times since last Saturday.
I think it has something to do with some changes in 3.52pre1
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05-10-2010, 11:10 AM
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Just want to say, yes, this only happened since the latest pre. I have not checked it with comodo off yet. But, it happened again to me last night.
~Rob.
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05-10-2010, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by junioreq
Just want to say, yes, this only happened since the latest pre. I have not checked it with comodo off yet. But, it happened again to me last night.
~Rob.
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Rob, have you reported this to the pre release forum?
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05-11-2010, 07:29 PM
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I am posting now in the pre-release thread. It happened again just now
~Rob.
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05-17-2010, 12:28 PM
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You guys still having this issue, Using the latest pre, it just happened again. While using the midi editor while docked.... You guys using midi?
I was using ezdrummer as well... editing the midi files..
~Rob.
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05-17-2010, 12:30 PM
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If this happens again, can you try clicking various Reaper windows to see if maybe one of the windows has grabbed the keyboard focus but isn't doing anything with the keystrokes?
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05-17-2010, 12:40 PM
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ok, its doing it now, I just checked by pressing any LETTERED key and I do get that windows sound like...... saying NO you cant push that! like if you have no tracks armed for recording,,, and you press record.. is that SAME windows sound that comes up! on Error.... will investigate more.. Opened a new project tab, same thing.
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05-17-2010, 12:45 PM
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Here is the undo history. You can see I used split(which was the S key) and I believe that was the last time the kb was working.. Moving media, I was moving midi item loops around in the editor, then I went in and added and deleted some hits:
~Rob.
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05-18-2010, 08:40 AM
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Looks like its happening when i'm copying and pasting midi loops in the main window. When this happens, I lose the ability to copy and paste, even with the right click mouse option. I can hit copy, but when I go to paste, nothing happens.
EDIT: Loaded new project, threw some midi loops in the window. Hit the S key to split, worked. Then went to copy/paste ... nothing... keyboard died out after hitting S key to split midi item.
~Rob.
Last edited by junioreq; 05-18-2010 at 09:05 AM.
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05-18-2010, 08:53 AM
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Did you try clicking in various Reaper windows (arrange view, media explorer, midi editor) and looking for any hidden modal windows (like an error or information message)?
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05-19-2010, 11:36 PM
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seems to be linked to using the alt key.. even with a blank empty project. like Using alt + b to split or so.. I then noticed that ALT key is turning on the little line underneath the names like file, edit, etc at the top bar:
The bottom pic is what happens when i press the alt key.
~Rob.
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05-19-2010, 11:51 PM
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Preferences > General > Keyboard > Prevent ALT from focusing main menu
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05-19-2010, 11:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricM
Preferences > General > Keyboard > Prevent ALT from focusing main menu
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I bet this solves junioreq's problem, but not mine - I have the option disabled.
Thanks,
Mario
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05-19-2010, 11:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mabian
I bet this solves junioreq's problem, but not mine - I have the option disabled.
Thanks,
Mario
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That was my guess as well
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05-20-2010, 12:06 AM
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Nope, the application is completely paralyzed and no editing can be done.
Insert media item. Push spacebar, it works.
Alt B to split, Alt+scrollwheel to zoom.
DEAD. No keyboard input at all.. Only thing that cures is a restart of reaper.
This was done with a new project. just dragging up a media file.
~Rob.
Application is unusable
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05-20-2010, 12:12 AM
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How is the option EricM pointed to set now?
- Mario
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05-20-2010, 12:12 AM
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Set to ignore alt.. sorry forgot to mention that. I can also reproduce it with those steps 100% of the time.
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05-20-2010, 04:44 AM
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Whay you re describing sounds exactly like the behavior that occurs when "prevent ALT key from focusing main menu" is disabled, but you say it is checked, so it's a mystery.
What Reaper windows are showing in this new project? Maybe there is some issue with how a particular Reaper dialog or docked window is handling the alt key.
Can you post your REAPER.ini and reaper-kb.ini here?
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01-31-2022, 01:06 PM
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Keyboard Not Working
I know this is an old thread but just in case anyone else is having the same problem....
For me this problem was being caused by having the render queue window open on another screen. Once closed the keyboard started working again.
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