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Old 03-12-2018, 08:29 AM   #1
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Default BUG:"Bypass underlying envelope outside of AI" bug

When using actions "Options: Bypass underlying envelope outside of automation items"/"Envelope: Bypass underlying envelope outside of automation items" and
"Options: Automatically insert automation item when activating envelope that is bypassed outside of automation items and not displayed in envelope lane" is ativated, no AI is inserted on ANY envelope.
Could this please be fixed? Here is the video:
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Old 04-05-2018, 12:56 AM   #2
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:30 AM   #3
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Sorry, could you be more specific about the bug report? What behavior do you expect, vs what is happening?
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Old 04-05-2018, 06:49 AM   #4
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Sorry, could you be more specific about the bug report? What behavior do you expect, vs what is happening?
Oh, my bad. The option should work with media lanes only.
Steps to reproduce:
1. Enable "Options: Automatically insert automation item when activating envelope that is bypassed outside of automation items and not displayed in envelope lane" option.
2. Add a track and show volume envelope.
3. Draw some points and move the envelope to media lane.
4. Select the points and run "Options: Bypass underlying envelope outside of automation items" or "Envelope: Bypass underlying envelope outside of automation items" actions.
5. AI should be inserted, but it isn't.
Could you please also add the option for envelope lanes also?

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Old 04-06-2018, 06:34 AM   #5
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I think this is a misunderstanding about what the option does -- which is not surprising, because the behavior is complex!

In general, existing envelope points that exist outside of automation items are hidden if you then enable "bypass envelope outside of automation items", regardless of whether or not the envelope is displayed in its own lane. Toggling that option doesn't create new automation items.

When envelopes are displayed in their own lanes by default, and envelopes are bypassed outside of automation items, activating a new envelope does not automatically create an automation item on the envelope, because it's obvious the new envelope exists.

When envelopes are not displayed in their own lanes by default, and envelopes are bypassed outside of automation items, you have a problem when you activate a brand-new envelope: you have no way to see that the envelope exists. The option "Options: Automatically insert automation item when activating envelope that is bypassed outside of automation items and not displayed in envelope lane" exists to handle that problem, by automatically inserting an automation item in the media lane when you create a new envelope in that situation.
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Old 04-06-2018, 06:57 AM   #6
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@schwa, thanks for the explanation! I've tried and it works. Sorry for my carelessness. Could you please add an option to automatically insert automation item when switching to automation-item-only mode?
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