in the project, you will also need to go to the start of time [Home key]
and then in the MCP where you see the GR5 in the first slot, rt clk and set it to Offline
then put in your action markers, go back to start of time and save the project
plz do let me know ifyou get it all working
I have tested that custom as an action marker here
did it on two projects, each on it's own tab
and watched the cpu use as it runs...
seems to be just fine here
stay in touch, eh?
I could imagine adding one more action marker at the end
I have made some great progress with this issue. So far all my tests work well. I will post my solution, along with a video, once I am 100% sure it works perfectly.
Another option is to use ReaStream to send MIDI or audio between projects, using the "local broadcast" option.
I haven't done this myself, but I think you can use one project tab as a kind of "synth rack" for other project tabs.
In the project tabs' right-click menu, select "Run background projects" and "Run stopped background projects".
Any track that receives ReaStream must be record armed in order to listen for incoming streams.
This is what I was thinking about:
I don't think you can send automation over ReaStream (or virtual MIDI ports), but automation can be converted to internal MIDI, which can also control GR5.
I don't think you can send automation over ReaStream (or virtual MIDI ports), but automation can be converted to internal MIDI, which can also control GR5.
The ReaStream idea is really cool!
The problem is, I don't know how to convert automation to internal MIDI (or maybe I do, but I don't understand what you mean by "convert automation to internal MIDI" 😂 😂 ).
Controlling GR5 with MIDI is extremely limited and I would not be able to automate the GR5 VST parameters this way.
Controlling GR5 via MIDI is the same as via host automation, really. You can add any MIDI CC to any automatable parameter... The only difference is coarser control, MIDI CC gives you 128 steps only.
Controlling GR5 via MIDI is the same as via host automation, really. You can add any MIDI CC to any automatable parameter... The only difference is coarser control, MIDI CC gives you 128 steps only.
@EvilDragon, I'm assuming you are referring to creating "controllers" in GR5 (see image) and linking them to a components parameter controls. Is that correct?
Or, are you saying I can add/draw MIDI CC in a Reaper MIDI track to control GR5 parameters (see image below)?
If I can add/draw MIDI CC in a Reaper MIDI track, how would I find controller numbers for specific GR5 component parameters?
My understanding is the GR5 Host Automation IDs only refer to VST parameters as discussed in my Native Instruments forum post?
Last edited by u2tributeband; 01-17-2018 at 03:58 PM.
hey u2... I wonder if you would clear something up for me so I can stop [or not] thinking about it...
Ok my question is.... why are you still wanting to automate the GR5 for the whole show on some track [is the correct???] rather than having on just one track inside each song project... where of course you could have whatever automation envelopes for it you desired?
hey u2 ... why are you still wanting to automate the GR5 for the whole show on some track [is the correct???] rather than having on just one track inside each song project... where of course you could have whatever automation envelopes for it you desired?
@hopi, the problem arises with the Native Instruments Rig Kontrol (RK) controller/pedal board that I use along with Native Instruments Guitar Rig 5 VST (GR5).
THE BOTTOM LINE
I must have the RK on stage in case something goes wrong with the automation.
To use the RK pedal board while using GR5 automation in Reaper (or any VST host), there can only be one, constantly online, instance of GR5 running.
THE DETAILS
» The RK will only connect with one instance of GR5 ... the first instance that is opened. It ignores all other instances.
» I can toggle GR5 instances online and offline. However, when I set a GR5 instance offline, the RK powers down.
» When I toggle the next instance of GR5 online, the RK powers on and it takes around 20 seconds to complete the power cycle. I do not want to keep power cycling the RK every time I select another song, especially during a live show.
» If I select the next song/project and put that GR5 instance online, then switch back to the previous song/project and take that GR5 instance offline, the RK does not power cycle, but it also does not connect to the new instance. It gets confused.
THE SOLUTION
I created a project (that I call "the player") with an empty track that has an online instance of GR5.
Then I created multiple song projects, each one containing an offline instance of GR5, the required automation, and the audio backing tracks (if there are any).
To create the automation envelopes, each song must have a track with an offline instance of GR5, to see the available FX automation parameters.
Each song's automation track must have an offline GR5 FX at all times! If the GR5 FX is removed after creating automation points, then Reaper deletes the envelopes.
Finally I created several custom actions to copy and paste the song items and tracks from a song project into the player. It's surprisingly fast.
During the show, when it's time to play the next song in the set, I clear everything in "the player" project leaving the one, empty, online GR5 track, then I copy and paste everything from the next song project into the player.
Here's a video of the process in action:
THE VIDEO
[SideNote] The audio tracks in this video are not actual backing tracks we use for our shows. They are just placeholders for the purposes of this demo video. [/SideNote]
Thanks to all the advice and input I received from this post and a couple of other posts that helped me get this working!!!
THE END
Last edited by u2tributeband; 01-18-2018 at 10:07 AM.
so it seems like you have it all solved now... is that true or are there other problems that remain?
I saw your other thread about using CC's... did you get that sorted?
I ask because I think there is a way using the 14 bit CC's, but it is not as clear and straightforward as using the automation lanes...
thanks u2... the video makes it very clear. So it seems like you have it all solved now... is that true or are there other problems that remain? I saw your other thread about using CC's... did you get that sorted? I ask because I think there is a way using the 14 bit CC's, but it is not as clear and straightforward as using the automation lanes...
Thanks @hopi!
Wow, I'd love to learn about 14 bit CC's. I don't know if they will help or not, but I will research them.
I think my issues are resolved. We have a rehearsal this weekend. I will run a few songs with my new system and see what happens.
If all goes well, I will start creating all the individual song projects, so they are ready for shows.
I don't think you can send automation over ReaStream (or virtual MIDI ports), but automation can be converted to internal MIDI, which can also control GR5.
Damned, thanks for this idea. It solved my problem sending MIDI to one Sampler VST in Monitor FX.
By the way, maybe it might work using the Monitor FX, where plugings are shared between project tabs, to put GR5 in it, and use a MIDI track on each project ?
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