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Old 03-24-2023, 11:26 PM   #1
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Default How is your experience with reaper on wayland?

Hey,

i started slowly to move towards wayland and was wondering how well does it work with reaper?

Is it supported natively or only via Xwayland?

What are your experiences?
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Old 03-25-2023, 01:29 AM   #2
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It will run on xwayland. There has been some problem with some menus on some WMs and possibly DEs. Worked just fine on sway atleast.
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Old 03-25-2023, 05:51 AM   #3
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I encountered no issues whatsoever.

EDIT: forgot to mention my system, Fedora 37 with PipeWire and Wayland as native. NVidia GPU, Intel CPU.

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Old 03-25-2023, 05:58 AM   #4
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Likewise, no issues using Arch + Gnome 43.
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Old 03-26-2023, 12:17 AM   #5
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In gnome mutter with hidpi and custom scale. Xwayland will display blur, so REAPER display bad.
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Old 05-13-2023, 06:01 AM   #6
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I have been running Wayland on Arch + KDE for a few months now, and Reaper is not handling this very well. The native Linux version will automatically shrink the vertically window as far as it can, making it unusable.
The Windows x64 version through wine works better, but on most actions it will shrink the window by about a pixel, so I have to un-maximize and re-maximize the window a lot
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Old 05-15-2023, 04:09 AM   #7
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In gnome mutter with hidpi and custom scale. Xwayland will display blur, so REAPER display bad.
But this is because of Reaper's abysmal scaling handling method, right? Not because of Mutter scaling issues?
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Old 05-15-2023, 08:24 AM   #8
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But this is because of Reaper's abysmal scaling handling method, right? Not because of Mutter scaling issues?
IIRC, this is because of the way GTK handles scaling.


I'm having no problems with Fedora here. I have collected a list of apps that work properly, and I don't use the other apps. I'm quite satisfied.
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Old 05-16-2023, 03:10 AM   #9
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IIRC, this is because of the way GTK handles scaling.
Yeah, probably is because of that. But Reaper's 90s scaling method also doesn't help either (not related to Wayland/X11 system scaling, though).
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Old 05-29-2023, 03:21 AM   #10
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I have been running Wayland on Arch + KDE for a few months now, and Reaper is not handling this very well. The native Linux version will automatically shrink the vertically window as far as it can, making it unusable.
The Windows x64 version through wine works better, but on most actions it will shrink the window by about a pixel, so I have to un-maximize and re-maximize the window a lot
I just updated, and the problem is gone for both the x64 wine version as well as the Linux native version. Seems like KDE has fixed whatever caused the issue.
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Old 05-30-2023, 02:20 PM   #11
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Fedora 34 plans to ditch X11 in favor of Wayland in its KDE iteration.

https://www.debugpoint.com/fedora-34...lasma-wayland/
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Old 06-09-2023, 01:24 AM   #12
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It's now three weeks using Reaper with XWayland in combination with swaywm.

In general it works pretty well.

The only performance issue i experience so far is when I have multiple windows open which render a lot, i.e. wolf-spectrum and vital, the refresh rate of all but one window drops massively. And this concerns reaper windows' refresh rates as well.

So opening more than one vst window instance is not possible.

Does anybody experience similar problems?
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Old 07-14-2023, 08:42 PM   #13
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I've been testing out reaper with Fedora for the last couple of years, using various desktops including sway, gnome, and plasma using both xorg and wayland logins. My daily driver is sway, and I'd love to be using it for DAW work, but it's just not quite there yet for me. I've had similar problems with various plugin UIs (including vital. Today on 6.81, using sway and

env -u WAYLAND_DISPLAY reaper

in my startup script (best way to launch it with environment vars such as pipewire buffer)

the app would crash whenever I tried to drag the left edge of the TCP waveform display to cover the track labels, with a docked mixer channel on the left. . .

Doesnt happen in a gnome/wayland boot, though. Scaling things for better viewing is still tricky. (I would love a UI overhaul for us old guys with worsening vision!)

The worst thing is that I often need to reset my MIDI devices. . . probably some problem with the current state of pipewire midi (3.73) , I suppose. That's a show stopper, so I have stuck with good ol' AVlinux for my creative production distro for now. . . no wayland, no pipewire, no pulseaudio, liquorix kernel, no other services running, just alsa and jack. But I'm wasting my life arranging windows all the time, fussing around with the mouse pointer. . . and of course I'm locked into a single interface where with Pipewire I can drive a busload of devices no problem. Come to think of it, I do have another problem with Pianoteq on wayland/pipewire boots, which is some kind of jitter issue, I believe, that develops intermittently, causing some maddening aliasing noise. But I'm not getting that on AVLinux, (debian MX, with a 6.0 kernel) with the same hardware (MiniDSP ADAT connection to RME Fireface UCX). I do feel that as a whole, the reaper/wayland/pipewire setup is ratcheting forward, and I'm hopeful that it will get there one day, especially with sway, which is a serious quality-of-life upgrade IMHO. I might even try out i3 with AVlinux at some point. In any case, my hat is still off to GMac, Justin, Wim Taymans et. al. for these great tools they have made available for us.
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Old 07-15-2023, 11:37 AM   #14
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Only just discovered that swaybar configs often use a hacky kind of "daemon" (with shell loops) running to update time and other widgets, and I suppose those kinds of egregious interrupts would be suss in a RT-DAW context. . . . To me it seems like no status bar might be the best approach.
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Old 07-16-2023, 01:26 PM   #15
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Old 07-17-2023, 10:02 AM   #16
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Reaper appears to work OK for me in Wayland/xwayland on Ubuntu 23.04, with the notable exception of having very blurry font in the interface. I've had the same issue with electron-based apps (e.g. slack, discord) and was able to fix it there, but I don't think any of those arguments would apply here. Running it with the env variables doesn't change much in this respect, either.
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