04-14-2023, 05:27 PM | #1 |
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Does anyone recommend Pop!_OS? Is setting it up for pro audio similar to Ubuntu or different? I can't find any relevent documentation.
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04-15-2023, 08:42 AM | #2 |
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Since Pop!_OS is based on Ubuntu, you should be fine with this guide: https://github.com/chmaha/UbuntuProAudio
The only thing you have to find out is if some of these tweaks are already implemented in Pop!_OS. |
04-15-2023, 09:13 AM | #3 |
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Thank you very much, sir! I read in Linux Muscian that a Reaper user installed Pop!_Os and didn't have to make any tweak whatsoever. Without mentionning if he uses Yabridge, however.
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04-15-2023, 05:09 PM | #4 |
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I like Pop!_OS -- I think it's a great distro and as you already know, it's built on Ubuntu, so I see no extra concerns with it compared to Ubuntu for audio work. Your standard caveats apply. But overall, I'd put it right up there with the best Ubuntu-based distros and Ubuntu flavors TBH. My personal favorite is Linux Mint, but if Linux Mint didn't exist, I'd probably be using Pop!_OS a lot more often.
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04-16-2023, 04:50 AM | #5 |
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It is stable enough and based off Ubuntu, so that's a plus. I like their application launcher.
On the minus side, it is based off Ubuntu and frankly looks and feels stale. Some of their UI changes I really don't like (e.g. vertical instead of horizontal handling of workspaces). Never did find their window snapping feature useful, sadly. Also doesn't faithfully replicate Ubuntu dependencies, so don't hope that you can outright jump into it and have the same compatibility -- for some things you'll have to fiddle around and find out what's the issue. After going with Fedora I never looked back to Manjaro, Pop OS, U Budgie and the rest of 'em. |
04-16-2023, 07:31 AM | #6 |
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I'm running Devuan (based on Debian). It's very good if you'd like a distro free from Systemd. And it runs JACK2, Qjackctl and Reaper very nicely without Pulseaudio and Pipewire. Alsa is enough.
My experience is that running without Systemd and Pulseaudio frees up resources for the DAW and Audio.
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04-17-2023, 05:36 AM | #7 |
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I was with Manjaro, then moved to Endeavour. Can you tell the advantages you appreciate with Fedora?
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It is what an OS should be: quiet, stable, clean, unassuming, a platform, and to get out of my way. Now, I sometimes miss being able to directly install .deb or .aur packages, but toolbox / distrobox to the rescue and it works. It's how I run Reaper. |
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04-17-2023, 07:47 AM | #10 |
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Not the most ringing endorsement for a distro or operating system
I've not had a single system freeze in Arch or Manjaro that I can remember but then again, I also never ever had a freeze in Win10 or Win11 either. Yes, application freezes or silent crashes across all OSes but never something that locked up the system completely. That shouldn't be happening really.
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The thing is, Silverblue rewires some of the default system paths to the user directory, and also makes it hard to install things system-wide. This keeps A LOT of package rubbish out of the system, which means it doesn't get slow, unstable, or just feel filthy. It is almost as if I have MacOS running on my system. Quote:
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04-17-2023, 08:37 AM | #12 |
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One of the reasons I love Linux is that there are so many choices, and everyone has their personal preferences of how their OS should work/feel/etc.
The downside is the flip side of the same coin, that there are so many choices, and it's easy to get lost in the forest! I spent years going back and forth testing distros until I landed on a few that I came to trust the most. I think almost every passionate Linux user has to go through a similar quest... and for some it never ends. But for those that find the distro that hits most of the high points for them, you'll rarely peel them away from it unless something significant changes with their favorite distro. For me, I am blown away at how many high quality distros there are, and happy when people find their match. I'm a Linux Mint fan myself after many years of searching (and hey! I don't think it's stale, lol!) and I'm happy to donate to the Linux Mint team since I think they do such good work. The only distro that rivals Linux Mint for a daily driver -- for me -- is Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE), which is the Linux Mint team's alternate source distro (which uses Debian repositories instead of Ubuntu repositories). They build LMDE to make sure Linux Mint can survive if the LM team ever decides to part ways with Ubuntu. I'd be perfectly happy if they made LMDE the default LM distro TBH. Anyway, there are many other great ones -- personally, I also really like Kubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Linux Mint MATE, Ubuntu MATE, Linux Mint Xfce, Pop!_OS, and even openSUSE Linux from time to time. But generally, I keep coming back to Linux Mint when I just want to get things done without fuss. But everyone has their unique preferences/needs, and it's always great to see when someone finds their match. |
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Linux Mint Debian Edition is the first Linux distro I used daily for some time more than a decade ago. Then I just decided to cut out the middle man and went Debian. My logic was that so many distros are based on Debian, so I might just use Debian and one of my friends - Linux sysadmin encouraged me to try Debian, too.
The greatest thing when you start with a well known and widely used distro like Ubuntu, Mint or Debian is - support/help is so easy to find and even though I was really proficient with Windows, or maybe because of it , I needed a lot of help and learning to become relatively proficient in Linux. But I haven't regretted the effort one iota, ever. Being the master of your computer and your OS is what I always wanted. Now I get annoyed with Windows or MacOS as I'm more easily able to see their deficiencies. Cheers!
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04-22-2023, 06:40 AM | #14 |
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What do you think that Ubuntu or any distro is not ready for Pipewire for pro audio? I've been using it whithout any hitch on my part.
robin PS. I have been involved with development of both JACK, design of PipeWire and am developing pro-audio software such as Ardour (I am also a Debian user since Potato). They've even removed Pipewire on the latest version of Ubuntu Studio. |
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Finally installed Pop!_OS. DAW apps work smoothly, without anything to do. Pro Audio configuring and tinkering like other distributions are not necessary. Wonderful!
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05-11-2023, 11:15 AM | #16 |
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This thread is timely. I have a custom-built Windows 10 machine that has served me well, but I'm not willing to upgrade my machine to migrate to Windows 11.
Thus, I think I'll make the move to Linux. Pop!_OS looks really appealing to me, so I'd love to hear how the OP feels a week (or so) after installing it. Specifically, I know there's been a lot of discussion regarding Wine, VST porting, etc., but I'm curious if Pop!_OS makes those challenges more manageable. |
05-11-2023, 04:46 PM | #17 |
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Now is a great time to switch to Linux! Just a quick thought though for new Linux users in general - that there is a learning curve. I'm sure you know that, but it's worth mentioning and worth giving yourself some time to go through it.
I find that many people who switch BACK to Windows or MacOS often haven't given themselves enough time to get through that curve, especially if they hit some friction points, which are inevitable. That happened to me several times with audio and video stuff before my latest dive. My daily work has been on Linux for a while, BUT I hit friction points in prior attempts to switch to Linux audio in the past. And while Linux pro audio has come a LONG way, just give yourself some time in case you hit a bump in the road. The good news is that that community is very helpful, and there are *many* paths to get to your unique Linux DAW solution, whatever that may be. One thing I suggest to all new Linux users is to spend time exploring different distros. Pop!_OS is definitely a good one, and worth your time testing, but take your time to test out a bunch of other distros too. You may discover some other distro that hits your sweet spot a little better. There are tons of great distros as you know! Have some fun with the process, and at some point you'll find a great solution. Good luck. |
05-12-2023, 06:48 AM | #18 |
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My experience thus far with Pop!_OS:
Hope that helps. EDIT: I forgot to mention that my Windows VSTs are limited to those I own: Ample Sound librairies, Kontakt 6.7 (7 won't work). Last edited by krahosk; 05-13-2023 at 04:57 PM. Reason: addendum |
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