Insert new track (in folder vs end of tracklist)

[Dstruct]

REAPER 5.16rc1

-> track 1 = folder
-> track 2 = child track

-> select track 2

-> "Insert new track" or "Insert multiple tracks" (after last touched track)


Result: Track(s) inserted ouside of folder


Expected: Track(s) placed as last one(s) inside folder (becasuse track 2 selected)!

For placing them outside of the folder we would have no folder/child track selected or would use "Insert new track at end of tracklist" or "Insert multiple tracks" (at end of project)



Also "Insert multiple tracks" (at end of project) should be renamed to "Insert multiple tracks" (at end of tracklist) for consistency

[obet1289]

hi,

Did you find a solution?

[Dstruct]

But that's not the issue.

[Dstruct]

Originally Posted by obet1289

hi,

Did you find a solution?

No. Still happens in REAPER 6.43.

[rncwalker]

Originally Posted by Dstruct

REAPER 5.16rc1

-> track 1 = folder
-> track 2 = child track

-> select track 2

-> "Insert new track" or "Insert multiple tracks" (after last touched track)


Result: Track(s) inserted ouside of folder

It's working like it should.
"Insert new track" or "Insert multiple tracks" (after last touched track)"
your last track was the end of the folder, so it should go outside of the folder.

Select the 1 track (Folder) and it works correctly!

Try it! it does work.

Robert

[Dstruct]

I disagree. The selected track was inside a folder and I expect the inserted track to be inside that folder.

[rncwalker]

Originally Posted by Dstruct

I disagree. The selected track was inside a folder and I expect the inserted track to be inside that folder.

But it's the last track of the folder!

Reaper is telling you "Insert new track" or "Insert multiple tracks" (After Last Touched Track)"

After the last touched track is your "last folder track", so reaper will not put in in the folder.

Now if it said "Before the last touched track, then it should be in the folder.

There is a Reason for this behavior.



Robert

[Dstruct]

Originally Posted by rncwalker

Now if it said "Before the last touched track, then it should be in the folder.

There is a Reason for this behavior.

Why not? I'm inside the folder an the track shoulde be inside the folder. Why should be outside of the folder?

[obet1289]

I just want to multiply the number of child tracks in my folder. So I can add new items to that track. Yes I can add a new one at the top of all other child tracks But the problem is I always work left to right and top to bottom. And I think I am not alone. At least the designers in most of the other DAWs thinks like me. There is an action called ''add new track(s) to the end of the TCP list''. There should also be the same for folders.

[obet1289]

In ableton live

Right click on the last child track > insert new track > adds new child track
Right click on the empty TCP area > insert new track > adds new track

very basic

[bodfum]

Ask in the script forum if someone could help you out maybe.

[Dstruct]

Originally Posted by obet1289

In ableton live

Right click on the last child track > insert new track > adds new child track
Right click on the empty TCP area > insert new track > adds new track

very basic

Agreed.

[Daodan]

Originally Posted by obet1289

Yes I can add a new one at the top of all other child tracks But the problem is I always work left to right and top to bottom. And I think I am not alone.

Exactly!
Would be great to just insert track where you want without extra drag and drop stuff.

[Daodan]

Originally Posted by bodfum

Ask in the script forum if someone could help you out maybe.

It feels weird for me when scripts involved in such basic things.

[sockmonkey72]

Originally Posted by Daodan

It feels weird for me when scripts involved in such basic things.

That's just superstition and stubbornness talking. The script API is there to make REAPER work the way you think it should -- the ReaScript docs are in the top-level Help menu for a reason.

As for the problem at hand, yes, I think this could be solved with a script.

InsertTrackRespectingFolderEnd.eel

// InsertTrackRespectingFolderEnd.eel
// v0.1, 2021.1.5
// sockmonkey72 / Jeremy Bernstein
// Inserts track(s) to the right of the selected track(s)
// if the selected track is the end of a folder, the new track
// will be created inside of that folder

ct = CountSelectedTracks(0);
i = 1;
loop(ct,
  tr = GetSelectedTrack(0, ct - i); // iterate backward since we're modifying the selection
  tr ? (
    trnum = GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, "IP_TRACKNUMBER"); // 1-based
    InsertTrackAtIndex(trnum, 1); // 0-based, so we can use the same number
    newtr = GetTrack(0, trnum);
    
    trdepth = GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, "I_FOLDERDEPTH");
    trdepth < 0 ? (
      SetMediaTrackInfo_Value(newtr, "I_FOLDERDEPTH", trdepth);
      SetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, "I_FOLDERDEPTH", 0);
    );
    SetTrackSelected(tr, 0);
    SetTrackSelected(newtr, 1);
  );
  i += 1;
);

[obet1289]

Originally Posted by sockmonkey72

That's just superstition and stubbornness talking. The script API is there to make REAPER work the way you think it should -- the ReaScript docs are in the top-level Help menu for a reason.

As for the problem at hand, yes, I think this could be solved with a script.

InsertTrackRespectingFolderEnd.eel

// InsertTrackRespectingFolderEnd.eel
// v0.1, 2021.1.5
// sockmonkey72 / Jeremy Bernstein
// Inserts track(s) to the right of the selected track(s)
// if the selected track is the end of a folder, the new track
// will be created inside of that folder

ct = CountSelectedTracks(0);
i = 1;
loop(ct,
  tr = GetSelectedTrack(0, ct - i); // iterate backward since we're modifying the selection
  tr ? (
    trnum = GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, "IP_TRACKNUMBER"); // 1-based
    InsertTrackAtIndex(trnum, 1); // 0-based, so we can use the same number
    newtr = GetTrack(0, trnum);
    
    trdepth = GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, "I_FOLDERDEPTH");
    trdepth < 0 ? (
      SetMediaTrackInfo_Value(newtr, "I_FOLDERDEPTH", trdepth);
      SetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, "I_FOLDERDEPTH", 0);
    );
    SetTrackSelected(tr, 0);
    SetTrackSelected(newtr, 1);
  );
  i += 1;
);

Thank you. I knew I could do something with scripts, but I didn't know how much I could do. Because I was able to overcome most of the problems by doing some research on the forum. This reply renewed my curiosity and encouraged me to take the next step in Reaper. Also ReaScript documentation is amazing.

[obet1289]

And I combined your script with the SWS action ''Set selected track(s) to previous tracks color''

[lexaproductions]

Oh I seen others have beat me to it.
This include the previous track's color and renaming...

--------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------|| HEADER ||--------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--[[
 * ReaScript Name: InsertTrackExtendingFolderIfSelected.lua
 * Description:
 * Instructions:
 * Author: Alex Paquette
 * Licence: GPL v3
 * Extensions Needed:
 * Version: 1.0
--]]


--------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------|| SETUP ||---------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
local reaper = reaper


--------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------|| RUN FUNCTION ||--------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
local function run()
	local isReorder = false
	local target_id = reaper.CountTracks(0)
	local target_col = 0
	local seltrks = reaper.CountSelectedTracks(0)
	if seltrks > 0 then
		local tr = reaper.GetSelectedTrack(0, seltrks-1)
		target_col = reaper.GetMediaTrackInfo_Value(tr, 'I_CUSTOMCOLOR')
		local _, tr_nm = reaper.GetTrackName(tr)
		target_id = reaper.CSurf_TrackToID(tr, false)
		isReorder = true
	end
	reaper.InsertTrackAtIndex(target_id, false)
	local new_tr = reaper.GetTrack(0, target_id)
	reaper.SetMediaTrackInfo_Value(new_tr, 'I_CUSTOMCOLOR', target_col)
	reaper.SetOnlyTrackSelected(new_tr)
	if isReorder then 
		reaper.ReorderSelectedTracks(target_id, 1)
	end
	reaper.Main_OnCommand(40696, 0) -- rename track
end


--------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------|| RUNTIME ||-------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
run()

[obet1289]

Wow. Thank you!!!

[lexaproductions]

Originally Posted by obet1289

In ableton live

Right click on the last child track > insert new track > adds new child track
Right click on the empty TCP area > insert new track > adds new track

very basic

Menu->Customize Menus/Toolbars...
You can add the script to both contexts "Track Control Panel" and "Empty TCP context" So that you can use the action with Right click.

You can even name them the same as in Ableton so that you can feel right at home.

[obet1289]

Originally Posted by lexaproductions

so that you can feel right at home.

Haha Ableton lives user interface is very well designed. Even now I run Ableton live for many simple tasks. Sampler and synthsizers are very good and easy to do their job. Open an instrument > activate virtual keyboard > make a brrrfff sound > patch it to an audio track > record and export. Quick and easy. I am leaving the issues with Reapers virtual keyboard and routing screens to another discussion.

I started Reaper almost 2 years ago. As a learning strategy, I tried to make all the menus and panels look like those in Ableton Live. After that a expanded the menus and toolbars as I like. It worked really well actually.