Old 05-18-2014, 01:24 PM   #1
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Hi all,

Since discovering this highly interesting program for use with my BCF2000 I browsed around a bit trying to find answers to my questions. I found some of them but they were scattered around the forums so I created this thread to pose my questions of today and for the future. A big thanks to Klinke for putting the time and effort into this plugin!

1. I'm using the Reaper 4.62 x64. I found that the faders are not at unity positioned at the zero mark on the BCF2000. Any fix to this? By looking at the MCU it looks like they have the same 100mm faders and have their zero mark similar to the BCF2000. See picture below (modified my IKEA Jerker desk and BCF2000 sides with oak..)



2. When in "insert mode" and controlling for example an Eq everything is controlled by the faders. It seems it's not possible to flip in this mode. Are there any other fix to this?

3. The BCF2000 mcu emulation mode doesn't have a name/value button assigned so how do you access the Global actions dialog?

4. The BCF2000 mcu emulation mode have assigned buttons which doesn't seem to match fully with Klinke's mcu plugin. Are there any general Klinke/BCF2000 map out there?

5. How do the upper shift/lower shift/alt/alg gr correspond to the modifier buttons on the MCU? Are the shift and control on the keyboard additional keys or do they correspond to the shift and controll on the MCU?

6. What's the latest version of Klinke's plugin? I'm using 0.8.2.3 (dev2,3)

7. What's the status on the plugin development? Is it alive?

This was the batch of questions for today. Will look in to automation next. Thanks for reading!

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Old 05-18-2014, 02:40 PM   #2
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4. The BCF2000 mcu emulation mode have assigned buttons which doesn't seem to match fully with Klinke's mcu plugin. Are there any general Klinke/BCF2000 map out there?s
Cool mod. I'd did something similar myself, maybe I'll post a pic one of these days.

I can't answer all your questions, but here's an overlay with the mappings. I personally prefer Cubase emulation mode.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9i3pc8dqgt...%20overlay.xls

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5. How do the upper shift/lower shift/alt/alg gr correspond to the modifier buttons on the MCU? Are the shift and control on the keyboard additional keys or do they correspond to the shift and controll on the MCU?
If you enable the option in Klinke's plugin configuration, you can use the right shift (or is it Ctrl?) and right alt keys on your keyboard to replace the buttons on the mcu. The upper/lower shift buttons on the BCF just get you access to certain functions on the BCF - see the overlay above.
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:34 PM   #3
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1. I'm using the Reaper 4.62 x64. I found that the faders are not at unity positioned at the zero mark on the BCF2000. Any fix to this? By looking at the MCU it looks like they have the same 100mm faders and have their zero mark similar to the BCF2000.
This depends on some Reaper settings. The Volume/Pan faders settings in the Track Control Panels are also used for the control surfaces.

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2. When in "insert mode" and controlling for example an Eq everything is controlled by the faders. It seems it's not possible to flip in this mode. Are there any other fix to this?
Only if there exist no parameter map for an plugin the VPots are unused and all parameters are mapped to faders. The idea is to use VPots for discrete parameters like Filter mode, On/Off switches etc., so flipping doesn't make sense. And the Flip buttons is used to bypass the effect btw.. Please check the manual for more details.

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3. The BCF2000 mcu emulation mode doesn't have a name/value button assigned so how do you access the Global actions dialog?
You can find in the Action list of Reaper for all buttons a corresponding action. So you can learn the name/value button e.g. to a key of the computer keyboard. Or to a button of an additional controller.

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6. What's the latest version of Klinke's plugin? I'm using 0.8.2.3 (dev2,3)

7. What's the status on the plugin development? Is it alive?
Yep, 0.8.2.3. And the development is alive but in a deep sleep. But it will weak up soon, sommer is comming ;-)
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:42 AM   #4
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Sweet!
Thank you all for your replies!

Next batch of questions:

8. In action mode, what are you using the programmable vpots and button for?

9. If in plugin mode, and I want to use the encoders for example gain (non-discrete value) in an Eq, how do you specify that in the plug maps? I guess someone with a BCR2000 perhaps can fill me in on that one? :-)

10. Is it possible to change the defaul path of My documents/Reaper/MCU?

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Hi,

just saw your PM with the question about controlling plugin parameters and generating maps.

I once did a video about using ReaEq here.

http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...4&postcount=13

ReaEq already has a pre-made map by Klinke though.

In the last part of the video you can see I bring up Klinke's mapping editor. (Alt + "Plugin" button on the BCR)



Enable the "Learn" tickbox, Channel 1-8 at the bottom are the 8 rotaries which you can map to the different plugin parameters.

I think this is better written in the manual than I can explain it.

Does this help already ?
If not, post back where the specific problems are.
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:05 PM   #6
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10. Is it possible to change the defaul path of My documents/Reaper/MCU?
No. Maybe a AppData subfolder would be a better place, but I don't plan to change this. Why do you want to change the path?
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:59 PM   #7
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Thanks for your contributions so far! Much appreciated!

I got the hang on learning the parameters for the vpots and creating the plugmaps. I understand why continuous values is better suited for the faders. Are the resolution for both faders and encoders 1024 steps?

11. I read in the manual that it's possible to modify the speed of the encoders; in most cases the vpots are a bit too sensitive for changing discrete values. I would if possible prefer to move the pot a bit more before catching a new value. Possible to somewhere change that in plug mode?

Regarding changing path I have all data related items like this stored on a different disk than my system disk. I routinely take backup with Norton Ghost and if placed on my system disk I might miss recent added files and changes.

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Old 05-24-2014, 12:32 PM   #8
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I have the impression, that you should move the complete documents folder to your data disc. That can be done easily, see e.g.:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...#1TC=windows-7

The faders have a resolution of 10bits = 1024 steps, the encoder just send relativ signals (I can't remember, maybe only +1 and -1). In the action mode a single step can trigger an action multiple times, that's the speed parameter for the action mode. But it's not possible to ignore some signals, but this is what you would need.
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