Old 08-23-2017, 08:46 PM   #1
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Default Craig Anderton Talks Audio Formats

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Digital Audio Formats: What’s Next?
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:42 AM   #2
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The answer is 5.1 and with proper 4K video.
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That would be .mkv
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I'm waitin' for the thing you plug into the thing and we have neural-aural direct. Neuraural. (I can't even say it).
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:15 PM   #5
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The problem with wav is that it sucks from everything but an audio perspective and since you can get the audio in modern formats, that is where it will go. One of the big problems with bluray was the insistence on including PCM, which forced the playing of every audio track on the disc everytime you played it.
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The answer is 5.1 and with proper 4K video.
Did you just save us a click?
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Did you just save us a click?
NO, the crappy article was about music delivery and there is nothing new or even interesting in it.
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NO, the crappy article was about music delivery and there is nothing new or even interesting in it.
So you just saved me a click then!

5.1 seems a little suspect as a future-proof format. I concede it is currently ubiquitous, at the same time the potential playback systems that would give good results with a 5.1 mix are pretty rare among average listeners.
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That's what Anderton said, just read the darn article.
Surely nothing new there. But here the vinyl resurgence has already lasted about 10 years while it was said to be a passing fad about 9 years ago already. Right.
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How is 5.1 "a little suspect as a future-proof format"?

I find the opposite. I've run across media players and other audio apps that don't always handle the other surround formats correctly. By "other formats" I mean 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, etc. Basically anything that isn't 5.1 or 2.0.

So, for example, it's safer and more "future-proof" to release a 4.0 master in a 5.1 container. Since the FLAC format reduces digital zero tracks to almost zero space, there isn't even any trade off for extra space.

As for people not setting up their systems correctly, it's a moot point. Some people listen to Beatles or Hendrix in their car with only one stereo channel hooked up to the speakers. They seem to be amused when you can't hear a solo or other part from the missing channel. Same deal with 5.1. That consumer doesn't care. We can only lead them to the music (along with their horse). They need to want to listen or not.
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I can't wait for the awesome experience of 5.1 channel audio on my $99 smartphone....
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How is 5.1 "a little suspect as a future-proof format"?

I find the opposite. I've run across media players and other audio apps that don't always handle the other surround formats correctly. By "other formats" I mean 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, etc. Basically anything that isn't 5.1 or 2.0.

So, for example, it's safer and more "future-proof" to release a 4.0 master in a 5.1 container. Since the FLAC format reduces digital zero tracks to almost zero space, there isn't even any trade off for extra space.

As for people not setting up their systems correctly, it's a moot point. Some people listen to Beatles or Hendrix in their car with only one stereo channel hooked up to the speakers. They seem to be amused when you can't hear a solo or other part from the missing channel. Same deal with 5.1. That consumer doesn't care. We can only lead them to the music (along with their horse). They need to want to listen or not.
True enough, I guess it's in comparison to what? 4.0, 4.1 and 5.0 aren't even in the same category as far as adoption. Right now it is the only openly available surround format. How does a modern 5.1 container for end users deal with channel order discrepancies?

Dare I bring up YouTube and Facebook spatial audio as delivery formats? They at least have the potential to reach a mass audience with a fair chance of a decent listening experience.

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I can't wait for the awesome experience of 5.1 channel audio on my $99 smartphone....
Indeed. I find binaural rendering of 5.1 with virtual speaker placement is truly an underwhelming experience. I still use it all the time though. In the best case scenario it sounds like a decent stereo mix.
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I think further evolution in audio should go towards better ears, delivery systems are long time covered.
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wav, flac and mp3 is my main formats, so guess I agree.
But, Craig don't mention distribution-system,
and that's a major factor.
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