View Poll Results: Would you use this feature?
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02-03-2014, 06:15 AM
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#81
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 6
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Bump = come on dudes!
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02-05-2014, 08:58 AM
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#82
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Scotland , UK
Posts: 19
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BUMP !!! Spent hours mapping and no vst instrument feedback? WHAT!!!!
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02-15-2014, 03:54 PM
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#83
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 6
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BUMP - ADD THIS FEATURE PLEASE!
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02-15-2014, 06:25 PM
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#84
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,725
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BUMP
Midi feedback please.
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02-17-2014, 05:19 AM
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#85
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 72
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111 votes here and only 77 for the feature request?
Come on!You have to vote here:
http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=4388
This basic function needs to be implemented!
Iīve tried it with OSC, but for me itīs too hard to get in the OSC-thing...and as far as I know, itīs not even possible, to get MIDI feedback for learned parameters with OSC (?)
...so with OSC (or Klinkeīs BCR-mod) you have fixed controller assignments for the plugin parameters (..as I understand).
But sometimes (for me) it makes sense to change the layout for the controller assignments, so itīs easier to remember, where each parameter is.
(hope I didnīt explain too complicated? )
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02-17-2014, 08:07 AM
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#86
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Newcastle UK
Posts: 474
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voted here and in the FR
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02-24-2014, 05:36 AM
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#87
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 289
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Want, I mean NEED this so badly. Placed my vote on FR page.
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02-24-2014, 06:31 AM
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#89
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 248
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Voted. Even though my controller is not capable of it, it's still an important feature.
Is there also a FR for click parameter --> MIDI learn? If its a big plugin it's impossible to find anything in a list of 200 parameters.
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02-24-2014, 12:00 PM
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#90
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Currently in Armenia
Posts: 1,114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmey
Voted. Even though my controller is not capable of it, it's still an important feature.
Is there also a FR for click parameter --> MIDI learn? If its a big plugin it's impossible to find anything in a list of 200 parameters.
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Are you looking for learn last touched param?
if so then go to actions menu and add a keyboard command to 'Set midi learn for last touch FX parameter'. I have mine assigned to ctrl+alt+w for some reason. Works a charm when setting default parameters for new plugins.
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02-24-2014, 01:00 PM
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#91
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 248
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendetta V
Are you looking for learn last touched param?
if so then go to actions menu and add a keyboard command to 'Set midi learn for last touch FX parameter'. I have mine assigned to ctrl+alt+w for some reason. Works a charm when setting default parameters for new plugins.
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Nice. Can you include that to the context menu as well?
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02-24-2014, 11:51 PM
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#92
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: poitiers, france
Posts: 3
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+1
I agree with novocane99. Soft takeover and relative mode are quite difficult to set.
Since I can't wait for this feedback implementation, I use relative 2 mode, hide leds (too fancy for me anyway) and use BC manager to adjust my encoders resolution to match my VSTs UI..
+1
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03-03-2014, 02:00 AM
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#93
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Poland
Posts: 46
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+1
I need this
MIDI feedback to controller please.....
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03-11-2014, 08:06 PM
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#94
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SD Cali
Posts: 112
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Reaper Midi Feedback
+1 Midi Feedback Please!!!!
TIA
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03-12-2014, 02:44 PM
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#95
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Armenia
Posts: 88
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yeap. Midi and OSC learned parameters feedback, please!
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05-22-2014, 04:58 AM
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#97
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 51
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+1 This is really important with all the new controllers available !!
It should be possible to input into reaper a certain type of message and chose the type of message that is fed back to the controller for example the controller sends a CC message to activate an FX and reaper sends ou a Note message to the controller to activate a led on the controller.
This could be implemented as a Midi assignment Table in reaper.
Inputs column on left side, corresponding actions in the middle, and outputs to controller on the right.
Thanks.
Last edited by FarfadetFarfelu; 05-22-2014 at 06:00 AM.
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05-22-2014, 12:19 PM
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#98
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Unwired (probably in the proximity of Amsterdam)
Posts: 4,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FarfadetFarfelu
+1 This is really important with all the new controllers available !!
It should be possible to input into reaper a certain type of message and chose the type of message that is fed back to the controller for example the controller sends a CC message to activate an FX and reaper sends ou a Note message to the controller to activate a led on the controller.
This could be implemented as a Midi assignment Table in reaper.
Inputs column on left side, corresponding actions in the middle, and outputs to controller on the right.
Thanks.
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Excellent suggestion to further enhance the concept. Strictly speaking, although it serves to provide feedback in your example, I would not call that "feedback" though, rather something like "conversion". If you only need it when the external (MIDI/OSC) controller changes the 'learned' parameter value, there may be some JS or VST effect that can be used for a workaround.
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05-22-2014, 12:34 PM
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#99
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 51
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I'm currently looking for a vst to do the job that you suggest, but in the example above it's both feedback and conversion, i need it also when the parameter is changed inside reaper without external midi being send to it.
Some controllers only read "note" input to drive the leds, or limited cc values (like CC10 to CC19 to control ten leds).
That's why conversion is important.
I think Reaper is really missing on the controller craze that's going on right now.
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10-08-2014, 08:41 AM
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#100
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 84
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Shameless bump, do want feedback!
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10-11-2014, 06:29 AM
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#101
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 272
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I find every REAPER update is just a dispassionate list of tiny changes that only 0.000001% of the user base will benefit from. Examples include:
+ API: fixed RenderFileSection() return value
+ JSFX: added support for reading various media types that REAPER supports (including FLAC, WavPack, etc)
+ Localization: allowed localization of toolbar names
+ ReaScript: avoid excess Undo_OnStateChange() calls and stale undo blocks for non-deferred scripts
These updates are great and I do appreciate the fact that devs are very detailed-focused but to be honest most users don't see any value in them. Reaper has never been my main DAW because it lacks in many areas and IMO it hasn't changed much (functionally speaking) for a very long time. I still hope one day it will become my main DAW though.
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01-03-2015, 05:18 PM
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#102
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 28
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Anyone know if this has been sorted yet? Just got passed a BCR and the workflow sucks arse without this feature. Devs we need this!!
Looks like this has been done here: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=81818
No idea how to do it but it looks like it is now possible if anyone else is looking for this.
Last edited by Famousbyfive; 01-03-2015 at 06:54 PM.
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01-05-2015, 01:57 PM
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#103
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 28
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I was wrong. This hasn't been done but for the love of God please, please, please make this happen. Please.
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01-06-2015, 08:53 AM
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#104
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Unwired (probably in the proximity of Amsterdam)
Posts: 4,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Famousbyfive
I was wrong. This hasn't been done but for the love of God please, please, please make this happen. Please.
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Well, I do have feedback to my BCR-2000, but it takes external OSC<-->MIDI conversion. So it *can* be done, if you really want to. It's just way too much hassle for the average user.
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01-06-2015, 12:22 PM
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#105
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Banned
Well, I do have feedback to my BCR-2000, but it takes external OSC<-->MIDI conversion. So it *can* be done, if you really want to. It's just way too much hassle for the average user.
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As I understand it from nofish feedback is possible through mcu but you are then restricted to use that set of parameters, rather than the ability to freely assign the hardware to whatever vst parameter you like and then receive the correct feedback. Im using it purely for mixing, eq and compressor duties. I'm sure people are getting great use as it is but the thought of being able to use it with straight forward feedback would be unbelievable. Would quite happily kick in Ģ100 towards convincing a dev to work on this but I sure they've had far more impressive offers and still declined so I'll just wait and see what happens. One day....
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04-20-2015, 02:14 AM
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#106
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Banned
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Moscow, Russia
Posts: 554
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bump
We are having this with shitty Automap. Why can't we have the same naturally via MIDI and OSC.
And I'm waitingfor years for a normal customizable HUI support instead of that HUI(partial) Csurf plugin. It seems like magic is gone.
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06-25-2015, 01:17 PM
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#107
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6
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I actually purchased Studio One a few months ago because I was sick and tired of the frustration of trying to control plugins with my BCR2000. Studio One has great and easy implementation for this, and allows the focused plug in to show feedback.. took me literally 10 minutes to set it up. I appreciate that OSC exists, but I want to make music, not write code.
I was getting used to the new work flow in V2 and then Version 3 came out, which I purchased. The new version is crushing my CPU every time I try to run any old projects. I fought that program for about two weeks and then decided I would wait until they hopefully get the bugs worked out.. I came back to Reaper and was immediately struck at how much I felt at home. I can run plug-ins and VST instruments all day long and my CPU laughs at me.. barely cracks 5%.. Reaper is night and day on my machine.
However, my BCR2000 is now back upstairs collecting dust. This feature is literally the only thing missing from Reaper as far as I'm concerned. If they could PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF JEEBUS, add this feature, my life would be fulfilled as a human being forever and ever. (Well, I'd be really freakin' happy, anyway) C'MON!!!!
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12-15-2015, 08:04 PM
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#108
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 31
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yea, this is literally the only thing I'm missing in Reaper.
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12-27-2015, 07:25 AM
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#109
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 309
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feedback, midi & osc - clarification
Quote:
Originally Posted by Banned
Yes there is. Where did you get that idea? (It was broken for a few versions, but check the latest pre-release versions.)
Especially with 14-bit MIDI control from the BCR-2000 converted back and forth to OSC, it's absolutely great to have smooth parameter changes (as editing 14-bit MIDI in REAPER is still not very user friendly, to say the least).
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Reading with interest, interested in getting this OSC stuff working, using reaper with various vst's
Can I ask just clarify, re ' feedback', does this apply to both MIDI & OSC, and is it only if you have several hardware controllers that need to be 'synced' (I'm imagining like a real studio, where the faders move with the automation data as if by magic, or the volume knob on my sony stereo that rotates as the volume up/down command is performed via RC?
hoping to add an android tablet to my system, guessing midi isn't an option, looking into touchOSC, assuming ANYTHING can is possible...
thanks
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12-27-2015, 11:04 AM
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#110
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 52
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MIDI.
The feedback is needed for rotary encoders and motorized faders to point the correct value in the hardware.
Actually, the rotary encoders DO work in Reaper without MIDI feedback, IF they can be set up to send the values in relative mode (eg. NI Komplete Kontrol keyboards). But even in that case, the hardware can NOT give the visual feedback of the plugin parameter value. Which can be OK if you always have the plugin focused on the screen. But then you're tied to that workflow.
For a controller without a parameter labeling/naming functionality, the visual feedback of the value is absolutely essential, for example BCR2000.
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12-27-2015, 01:31 PM
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#111
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdubs73
I actually purchased Studio One a few months ago because I was sick and tired of the frustration of trying to control plugins with my BCR2000. Studio One has great and easy implementation for this, and allows the focused plug in to show feedback.. took me literally 10 minutes to set it up. I appreciate that OSC exists, but I want to make music, not write code.
I was getting used to the new work flow in V2 and then Version 3 came out, which I purchased. The new version is crushing my CPU every time I try to run any old projects. I fought that program for about two weeks and then decided I would wait until they hopefully get the bugs worked out.. I came back to Reaper and was immediately struck at how much I felt at home. I can run plug-ins and VST instruments all day long and my CPU laughs at me.. barely cracks 5%.. Reaper is night and day on my machine.
However, my BCR2000 is now back upstairs collecting dust. This feature is literally the only thing missing from Reaper as far as I'm concerned. If they could PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF JEEBUS, add this feature, my life would be fulfilled as a human being forever and ever. (Well, I'd be really freakin' happy, anyway) C'MON!!!!
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hi, is there a video illustrating the feature? I'm struggling to grasp what it is that's amiss exactly. I'm guessing that it's to do with trendy midi hardware, and getting info back from the DAW.
I'm on page 3 of my d2go manual (went straight to the midi spec, not for me) (goo.gl/E0NmT9) and already I'm stumped.
There's a bit, re the LEDs...
"LEDs should turn on with a MIDI Note On message and turn off with a MIDI Note Off message. MIDI
Note On messages with a velocity of 0 are equivalent to a Note off message."
Is this ^ the kind of thing that can be done with studio, but not with Reaper?
I haven't used this controller, except to test with included demo of virtual pro... had an idea on 'my first surface/template/controller map' ('dynamic controller', goo.gl/ylbOHZ)
Please excuse my ignorance
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01-24-2016, 08:01 AM
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#112
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 147
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Bumping this. I got around using Klinke's excellent MCU, but the native impementation would be far better!
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01-24-2016, 03:59 PM
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#113
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timboid
Bumping this. I got around using Klinke's excellent MCU, but the native impementation would be far better!
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There's no workaround for Mac.
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01-24-2016, 04:25 PM
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#114
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Finland
Posts: 792
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Oh...
Once again feature that should have been in Reaper for years but isn't there.
I wonder why I keep coming upon these that have been requested for 4+ years and no cigar :/
And it's not even anything unreasonable or highly special really...
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03-16-2016, 04:01 AM
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#115
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 116
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Yes please, is it so hard to implement?
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03-16-2016, 01:54 PM
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#116
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Currently in Armenia
Posts: 1,114
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Oh man I remember back when I created this request. Still hasn't been done
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03-16-2016, 01:55 PM
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#117
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Oblivion
Posts: 10,255
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If you use OSC instead of MIDI, you can turn any phone or tablet touch screen into a powerful controller with feedback. Not quite as nice as knobs, but very convenient.
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03-16-2016, 02:20 PM
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#118
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendetta V
Oh man I remember back when I created this request. Still hasn't been done
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http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=1638559
check out this script, might help in some circumstances. helped me.
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03-17-2016, 02:02 AM
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#119
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foxAsteria
If you use OSC instead of MIDI, you can turn any phone or tablet touch screen into a powerful controller with feedback. Not quite as nice as knobs, but very convenient.
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Yes, but i exactly want to use LESS screen instead of more... I stare at screens so much that i almost fear losing the ability to see 3 dimensions :-)
Also, being able to change parameters with eyes closed leaves me MUCH more focus on the actual sound.
But thanks anyway!
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03-17-2016, 02:05 AM
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#120
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mccrabney
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Thanks, i haven't seen this!
Unfortunately i don't have a controller yet for trying out if that works. I posted over there, maybe somebody can have a quick check if that works for plugins on audio tracks, too...
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